[Freesurfer] hippo subfield segmentation new beta version (version 6)
Dear all, I've been reading the manuscript on version 6 freesurfer hippocampal subfield segmentation "A computational atlas of the hippocampal formation using ex vivo, ultra-high resolution MRI: application to adaptive segmentation of in vivo MRI" Can you please tell me if the type of sequence (e.g. coronal T2FLAIR vs T2STIR) and voxel sizes of .4x.4x2mm^3 vs .4x.4x4mm^3 really make a difference for this multi-modal algorithm? I previously ran recon-all on 1mm isotropic T1-w scans all with similar contrast. It seems that the mesh fitting in version 6 is driven by the relation of the subfields to each other rather than by contrast or signal intensities; and also I notice the algorithm brings everything to isotropic space anyway. Is this correct? Do you see a major methodological issue when using T2FLAIR (.4x.4x4mm^3) and T2STIR (.4x.4x2mm^3) subfield volumes together? Thank you very much, Best wishes, Barbara P.s. as a side-note, I've not noticed any major differences in subfield segmentations visually, when comparing segmentations via these two different T2 scans. ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
[Freesurfer] hippo subfield segmentation new beta version (version 6)
Dear all, Would you please help me on this one? Thank you, best wishes, Barbara Forwarded Message Subject:hippo subfield segmentation new beta version (version 6) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:45:02 +0100 From: Barbara Kreilkamp To: Freesurfer support list Dear all, I've been reading the manuscript on version 6 freesurfer hippocampal subfield segmentation "A computational atlas of the hippocampal formation using ex vivo, ultra-high resolution MRI: application to adaptive segmentation of in vivo MRI" Can you please tell me if the type of sequence (e.g. coronal T2FLAIR vs T2STIR) and voxel sizes of .4x.4x2mm^3 vs .4x.4x4mm^3 really make a difference for this multi-modal algorithm? I previously ran recon-all on 1mm isotropic T1-w scans all with similar contrast. It seems that the mesh fitting in version 6 is driven by the relation of the subfields to each other rather than by contrast or signal intensities; and also I notice the algorithm brings everything to isotropic space anyway. Is this correct? Do you see a major methodological issue when using T2FLAIR (.4x.4x4mm^3) and T2STIR (.4x.4x2mm^3) subfield volumes together? Thank you very much, Best wishes, Barbara P.s. as a side-note, I've not noticed any major differences in subfield segmentations visually, when comparing segmentations via these two different T2 scans. ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
Re: [Freesurfer] hippo subfield segmentation new beta version (version 6)
Hi Barbara, Sorry for the late response. - the type of sequence does not matter much as long as the contrast between gray and white matter is good. - the resolution is important, because you need to be able to see the internal thin layer of white matter in the hippocampus to be able to infer its internal structure; otherwise, the segmentation of the internal boundarie will indeed be dominated by the prior knowledge, rather than the intensities. - the algorithm operates at 0.33mm (isotropic) resolution; the segmentation is provided both at that resolution and at 1mm isotropic (FS space); please see the details in the wiki: https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/HippocampalSubfields If you send me the T2FLAIR and T2STIR images for a sample subject, I can take a look and give you more accurate answers ;-) Cheers, Eugenio Juan Eugenio Iglesias Postdoctoral researcher BCBL www.jeiglesias.com www.bcbl.eu Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer From: "Barbara Kreilkamp" To: "Freesurfer support list" Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:28:44 PM Subject: [Freesurfer] hippo subfield segmentation new beta version (version 6) Dear all, Would you please help me on this one? Thank you, best wishes, Barbara Forwarded Message Subject:hippo subfield segmentation new beta version (version 6) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:45:02 +0100 From: Barbara Kreilkamp To: Freesurfer support list Dear all, I've been reading the manuscript on version 6 freesurfer hippocampal subfield segmentation "A computational atlas of the hippocampal formation using ex vivo, ultra-high resolution MRI: application to adaptive segmentation of in vivo MRI" Can you please tell me if the type of sequence (e.g. coronal T2FLAIR vs T2STIR) and voxel sizes of .4x.4x2mm^3 vs .4x.4x4mm^3 really make a difference for this multi-modal algorithm? I previously ran recon-all on 1mm isotropic T1-w scans all with similar contrast. It seems that the mesh fitting in version 6 is driven by the relation of the subfields to each other rather than by contrast or signal intensities; and also I notice the algorithm brings everything to isotropic space anyway. Is this correct? Do you see a major methodological issue when using T2FLAIR (.4x.4x4mm^3) and T2STIR (.4x.4x2mm^3) subfield volumes together? Thank you very much, Best wishes, Barbara P.s. as a side-note, I've not noticed any major differences in subfield segmentations visually, when comparing segmentations via these two different T2 scans. ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.