Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-26 Thread Lara Foland-Ross
My apologies - there was a typo in my last message. The error reads that the 
program could not find mri/001.mgz:

cibsr-i27-410:inProgress6.0b kel32$ pwd
/Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/inProgress6.0b
cibsr-i27-410:inProgress6.0b kel32$ ls
18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0 18512_hipp  fsaverage
cibsr-i27-410:inProgress6.0b kel32$ recon-all -all -s 18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0 
-hippocampal-subfields-T2 
/Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/Liraglutide6.0b/rawdata/18512_hipp/MR.1.2.840.113619.2.283.4120.7575399.16012.1376585566.598.dcm
 T2hipp_in_long
INFO: FreeSurfer build stamps do not match
Subject Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0
Current Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-OSX-dev-20160326
INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/inProgress6.0b
Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Volumes/ToolsMac/freesurfer6.0b
-rw-rw-r--  1 kel32  staff  1368492 Apr 26 08:33 
/Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/inProgress6.0b/18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0/scripts/recon-all.log
Darwin cibsr-i27-410.stanford.edu 12.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 12.6.0: Wed Mar 
18 16:23:48 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2050.48.19~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
dyld: DYLD_ environment variables being ignored because main executable 
(/usr/bin/top) is setuid or setgid
INFO: current FREESURFER_HOME does not match that of previous processing.
Current: /Volumes/ToolsMac/freesurfer6.0b
Previous: /Volumes/ToolsMac/freesurfer5.3
#
#@# MotionCor Tue Apr 26 08:41:07 PDT 2016
ERROR: no run data found in 
/Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/inProgress6.0b/18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0/mri. Make 
sure to
have a volume called 001.mgz in  
/Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/inProgress6.0b/18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0/mri/orig.
If you have a second run of data call it 002.mgz, etc.
See also: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Conversion
Darwin cibsr-i27-410.stanford.edu 12.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 12.6.0: Wed Mar 
18 16:23:48 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2050.48.19~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

recon-all -s 18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0 exited with ERRORS at Tue Apr 26 08:41:08 
PDT 2016

For more details, see the log file 
/Volumes/Xspace/Freesurfer/inProgress6.0b/18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0/scripts/recon-all.log
To report a problem, see http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting


Can you please advise on how best to proceed?

May thanks!
Lara

Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Martin Reuter 
<mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:06 AM
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hi Lara,

mri/orig.mgz should be there also in the longitudinal directories. If it
is missing, more might be wrong. I would recommend rerunning those long
runs from scratch.

Best, Martin

On 04/25/2016 07:07 PM, Lara Foland-Ross wrote:
> Thank you Eugenio! This worked like a charm.
>
> Wondering now if you could help me troubleshoot running this command on 2 
> scans from a single subject (time 1 and time 2) that were processed using the 
> longitudinal pipeline in version 5.3.
>
> I ran the following:
>
> recon-all -all -s 18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0 -hippocampal-subfields-T2 
> 18512_hipp/MR.1.2.840.113619.2.283.4120.7575399.16012.1376585566.598.dcm 
> T2hipp
>
> and got the error that Freesurfer could not find mri/orig file... It is 
> indeed not there, presumably because it isn't produced after the creation and 
> editing of the long.base timepoints. I read elsewhere on the list that the 
> hippocampal subfield analysis could be run on the individual longitudinal 
> timepoints but can't seem to get this to work. Can you advise?
>
> Many thanks in advance for your continued help!
> Lara
>
>
> Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
> Research Associate
> Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
> Stanford University School of Medicine
> 401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
> Stanford, CA 94305-5795
>
> 
> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
> <e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:59 PM
> To: Freesurfer support list
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two 
> scans prior to analysis
>
> Almost correct!
> recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
> subj1_hipp/I0001.dcm T2hipp
> Also, this is assuming that you have defined the environment variable 
> SUBJECTS_DIR. Otherwise, you'd need to add the flag -sd .
> Cheers,
> /Eugenio
>
>
> Juan Eugenio 

Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-26 Thread Martin Reuter
Hi Lara,

mri/orig.mgz should be there also in the longitudinal directories. If it 
is missing, more might be wrong. I would recommend rerunning those long 
runs from scratch.

Best, Martin

On 04/25/2016 07:07 PM, Lara Foland-Ross wrote:
> Thank you Eugenio! This worked like a charm.
>
> Wondering now if you could help me troubleshoot running this command on 2 
> scans from a single subject (time 1 and time 2) that were processed using the 
> longitudinal pipeline in version 5.3.
>
> I ran the following:
>
> recon-all -all -s 18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0 -hippocampal-subfields-T2 
> 18512_hipp/MR.1.2.840.113619.2.283.4120.7575399.16012.1376585566.598.dcm 
> T2hipp
>
> and got the error that Freesurfer could not find mri/orig file... It is 
> indeed not there, presumably because it isn't produced after the creation and 
> editing of the long.base timepoints. I read elsewhere on the list that the 
> hippocampal subfield analysis could be run on the individual longitudinal 
> timepoints but can't seem to get this to work. Can you advise?
>
> Many thanks in advance for your continued help!
> Lara
>
>
> Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
> Research Associate
> Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
> Stanford University School of Medicine
> 401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
> Stanford, CA 94305-5795
>
> 
> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
> <e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:59 PM
> To: Freesurfer support list
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two 
> scans prior to analysis
>
> Almost correct!
> recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
> subj1_hipp/I0001.dcm T2hipp
> Also, this is assuming that you have defined the environment variable 
> SUBJECTS_DIR. Otherwise, you'd need to add the flag -sd .
> Cheers,
> /Eugenio
>
>
> Juan Eugenio Iglesias
> Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
> www.jeiglesias.com
> www.bcbl.eu
>
> Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
> To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:29:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two 
> scans prior to analysis
>
> Hi Eugenio,
>
> Thank you so much for the quick and helpful reply.  I checked the images in 
> Freeview and they actually line up quite nicely!
>
> Can you provide further guidance on how to run recon-all once with both the 
> -all and the hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags?
>
> For example, in my rawdata directory, I have two folders: subj1_T1 and 
> subj1_hipp. I cd'd into the rawdata folder and ran the following with no 
> success:
>
> recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
> subj1_hipp T2hipp
>
> Is this directory setup correct? And can you please point out the errors in 
> the above recon-all command?
>
> Many thanks again for your help!
> Lara
>
> Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
> Research Associate
> Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
> Stanford University School of Medicine
> 401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
> Stanford, CA 94305-5795
>
> ____________
> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
> <e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:32 PM
> To: Freesurfer support list
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two 
> scans prior to analysis
>
> Dear Lara,
> Two things:
> 1. You don't need to recon the T2 scan. The recon-all stream only works for 
> T1 data anyway.
> 2. The registration between the T1 and T2 scans happens internally (with a 
> mri_register command similar to the one you wrote) during the hippocampal 
> subfield segmentation. You only need to coarsely align the T1 and T2 scans 
> manually if the initial alignment between the two is terrible. What happens 
> when you open them both in Freeview?
> 3. If the alignment is decent, just run recon-all once, with both the -all 
> and the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags.
> Feel free to send me the T1 and T2 scans if you are not sure whether they are 
> sufficiently well aligned or not.
> Cheers,
> /Eugenio
>
> Juan Eugenio Iglesias
> Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
> www.jeiglesias.com
> www.bcbl.eu
>
> Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer

Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-25 Thread Lara Foland-Ross
Thank you Eugenio! This worked like a charm.

Wondering now if you could help me troubleshoot running this command on 2 scans 
from a single subject (time 1 and time 2) that were processed using the 
longitudinal pipeline in version 5.3. 

I ran the following:

recon-all -all -s 18512_T1_v5.3_hipp_v6.0 -hippocampal-subfields-T2 
18512_hipp/MR.1.2.840.113619.2.283.4120.7575399.16012.1376585566.598.dcm T2hipp

and got the error that Freesurfer could not find mri/orig file... It is indeed 
not there, presumably because it isn't produced after the creation and editing 
of the long.base timepoints. I read elsewhere on the list that the hippocampal 
subfield analysis could be run on the individual longitudinal timepoints but 
can't seem to get this to work. Can you advise?

Many thanks in advance for your continued help!
Lara


Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
<e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:59 PM
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Almost correct!
recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
subj1_hipp/I0001.dcm T2hipp
Also, this is assuming that you have defined the environment variable 
SUBJECTS_DIR. Otherwise, you'd need to add the flag -sd .
Cheers,
/Eugenio


Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
www.bcbl.eu

Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer

- Original Message -
From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:29:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hi Eugenio,

Thank you so much for the quick and helpful reply.  I checked the images in 
Freeview and they actually line up quite nicely!

Can you provide further guidance on how to run recon-all once with both the 
-all and the hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags?

For example, in my rawdata directory, I have two folders: subj1_T1 and 
subj1_hipp. I cd'd into the rawdata folder and ran the following with no 
success:

recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
subj1_hipp T2hipp

Is this directory setup correct? And can you please point out the errors in the 
above recon-all command?

Many thanks again for your help!
Lara

Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
<e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:32 PM
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Dear Lara,
Two things:
1. You don't need to recon the T2 scan. The recon-all stream only works for T1 
data anyway.
2. The registration between the T1 and T2 scans happens internally (with a 
mri_register command similar to the one you wrote) during the hippocampal 
subfield segmentation. You only need to coarsely align the T1 and T2 scans 
manually if the initial alignment between the two is terrible. What happens 
when you open them both in Freeview?
3. If the alignment is decent, just run recon-all once, with both the -all and 
the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags.
Feel free to send me the T1 and T2 scans if you are not sure whether they are 
sufficiently well aligned or not.
Cheers,
/Eugenio

Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
www.bcbl.eu

Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer

- Original Message -
From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:14:39 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hello,

I'm beginning a hippocampal subfield analysis in the beta version of Freesurfer 
6.0. I have a whole brain T1-weighted image as well as a high-resolution 
T2-weighted image of the hippocampus. The T2 weighted image covers the entire 
hippocampus, but not the whole brain.

My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that I should first 
run recon-all on the T1-weighted brain, then run recon-all on the T2-weighted 
scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag, but that I m

Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-05 Thread Eugenio Iglesias
Almost correct!
recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
subj1_hipp/I0001.dcm T2hipp
Also, this is assuming that you have defined the environment variable 
SUBJECTS_DIR. Otherwise, you'd need to add the flag -sd .
Cheers,
/Eugenio


Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
www.bcbl.eu

Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer

- Original Message -
From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:29:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hi Eugenio,

Thank you so much for the quick and helpful reply.  I checked the images in 
Freeview and they actually line up quite nicely!

Can you provide further guidance on how to run recon-all once with both the 
-all and the hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags?

For example, in my rawdata directory, I have two folders: subj1_T1 and 
subj1_hipp. I cd'd into the rawdata folder and ran the following with no 
success:

recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
subj1_hipp T2hipp

Is this directory setup correct? And can you please point out the errors in the 
above recon-all command?

Many thanks again for your help!
Lara

Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
<e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:32 PM
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Dear Lara,
Two things:
1. You don't need to recon the T2 scan. The recon-all stream only works for T1 
data anyway.
2. The registration between the T1 and T2 scans happens internally (with a 
mri_register command similar to the one you wrote) during the hippocampal 
subfield segmentation. You only need to coarsely align the T1 and T2 scans 
manually if the initial alignment between the two is terrible. What happens 
when you open them both in Freeview?
3. If the alignment is decent, just run recon-all once, with both the -all and 
the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags.
Feel free to send me the T1 and T2 scans if you are not sure whether they are 
sufficiently well aligned or not.
Cheers,
/Eugenio

Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
www.bcbl.eu

Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer

- Original Message -
From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:14:39 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hello,

I'm beginning a hippocampal subfield analysis in the beta version of Freesurfer 
6.0. I have a whole brain T1-weighted image as well as a high-resolution 
T2-weighted image of the hippocampus. The T2 weighted image covers the entire 
hippocampus, but not the whole brain.

My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that I should first 
run recon-all on the T1-weighted brain, then run recon-all on the T2-weighted 
scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag, but that I must first make 
sure that the two scans are roughly aligned.

I was able to successfully register the T1-weighted scan to the T2-weighted 
scan using mri_robust_register using the following commands:

mri_robust_register --mov wholebrain.mgz --dst hippocampus.mgz --cost nmi --lta 
wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -satit --noinit --nosym

mri_convert -at wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -rl hippocampus.mgz 
wholebrain.mgz wholebrain_reg_to_hipppcampus.mgz

My plan was then to run recon-all on the newly upsampled, registered 
wholebrain_reg_to_hippocampus.mgz image. And then run recon-all on the 
T2-weighted scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag. However, the 
resampled whole brain T1-weighted image now has only a partial FOV.

Is there a way that I can preserve the full field of view in the T1-weighted 
scan? I've experimented with mri_coreg and flirt and am at a loss.

Many thanks in advance,
Lara


Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


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Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-05 Thread Lara Foland-Ross
Hi Eugenio,

Thank you so much for the quick and helpful reply.  I checked the images in 
Freeview and they actually line up quite nicely!

Can you provide further guidance on how to run recon-all once with both the 
-all and the hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags?

For example, in my rawdata directory, I have two folders: subj1_T1 and 
subj1_hipp. I cd'd into the rawdata folder and ran the following with no 
success:

recon-all -all -s subj1_T1 -i subj1_T1/I0001.dcm -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 
subj1_hipp T2hipp

Is this directory setup correct? And can you please point out the errors in the 
above recon-all command?

Many thanks again for your help!
Lara

Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Eugenio Iglesias 
<e.igles...@bcbl.eu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:32 PM
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Dear Lara,
Two things:
1. You don't need to recon the T2 scan. The recon-all stream only works for T1 
data anyway.
2. The registration between the T1 and T2 scans happens internally (with a 
mri_register command similar to the one you wrote) during the hippocampal 
subfield segmentation. You only need to coarsely align the T1 and T2 scans 
manually if the initial alignment between the two is terrible. What happens 
when you open them both in Freeview?
3. If the alignment is decent, just run recon-all once, with both the -all and 
the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags.
Feel free to send me the T1 and T2 scans if you are not sure whether they are 
sufficiently well aligned or not.
Cheers,
/Eugenio

Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
www.bcbl.eu

Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer

- Original Message -
From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:14:39 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hello,

I'm beginning a hippocampal subfield analysis in the beta version of Freesurfer 
6.0. I have a whole brain T1-weighted image as well as a high-resolution 
T2-weighted image of the hippocampus. The T2 weighted image covers the entire 
hippocampus, but not the whole brain.

My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that I should first 
run recon-all on the T1-weighted brain, then run recon-all on the T2-weighted 
scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag, but that I must first make 
sure that the two scans are roughly aligned.

I was able to successfully register the T1-weighted scan to the T2-weighted 
scan using mri_robust_register using the following commands:

mri_robust_register --mov wholebrain.mgz --dst hippocampus.mgz --cost nmi --lta 
wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -satit --noinit --nosym

mri_convert -at wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -rl hippocampus.mgz 
wholebrain.mgz wholebrain_reg_to_hipppcampus.mgz

My plan was then to run recon-all on the newly upsampled, registered 
wholebrain_reg_to_hippocampus.mgz image. And then run recon-all on the 
T2-weighted scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag. However, the 
resampled whole brain T1-weighted image now has only a partial FOV.

Is there a way that I can preserve the full field of view in the T1-weighted 
scan? I've experimented with mri_coreg and flirt and am at a loss.

Many thanks in advance,
Lara


Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


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Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-05 Thread Eugenio Iglesias
Dear Lara,
Two things:
1. You don't need to recon the T2 scan. The recon-all stream only works for T1 
data anyway.
2. The registration between the T1 and T2 scans happens internally (with a 
mri_register command similar to the one you wrote) during the hippocampal 
subfield segmentation. You only need to coarsely align the T1 and T2 scans 
manually if the initial alignment between the two is terrible. What happens 
when you open them both in Freeview?
3. If the alignment is decent, just run recon-all once, with both the -all and 
the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flags.
Feel free to send me the T1 and T2 scans if you are not sure whether they are 
sufficiently well aligned or not.
Cheers,
/Eugenio

Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
www.bcbl.eu

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- Original Message -
From: "Lara Foland-Ross" <lfol...@stanford.edu>
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:14:39 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans 
prior to analysis

Hello, 

I'm beginning a hippocampal subfield analysis in the beta version of Freesurfer 
6.0. I have a whole brain T1-weighted image as well as a high-resolution 
T2-weighted image of the hippocampus. The T2 weighted image covers the entire 
hippocampus, but not the whole brain.

My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that I should first 
run recon-all on the T1-weighted brain, then run recon-all on the T2-weighted 
scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag, but that I must first make 
sure that the two scans are roughly aligned.

I was able to successfully register the T1-weighted scan to the T2-weighted 
scan using mri_robust_register using the following commands:

mri_robust_register --mov wholebrain.mgz --dst hippocampus.mgz --cost nmi --lta 
wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -satit --noinit --nosym

mri_convert -at wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -rl hippocampus.mgz 
wholebrain.mgz wholebrain_reg_to_hipppcampus.mgz

My plan was then to run recon-all on the newly upsampled, registered 
wholebrain_reg_to_hippocampus.mgz image. And then run recon-all on the 
T2-weighted scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag. However, the 
resampled whole brain T1-weighted image now has only a partial FOV.

Is there a way that I can preserve the full field of view in the T1-weighted 
scan? I've experimented with mri_coreg and flirt and am at a loss.

Many thanks in advance,
Lara


Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


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[Freesurfer] hippocampal subfield analysis - registered two scans prior to analysis

2016-04-05 Thread Lara Foland-Ross
Hello, 

I'm beginning a hippocampal subfield analysis in the beta version of Freesurfer 
6.0. I have a whole brain T1-weighted image as well as a high-resolution 
T2-weighted image of the hippocampus. The T2 weighted image covers the entire 
hippocampus, but not the whole brain.

My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that I should first 
run recon-all on the T1-weighted brain, then run recon-all on the T2-weighted 
scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag, but that I must first make 
sure that the two scans are roughly aligned.

I was able to successfully register the T1-weighted scan to the T2-weighted 
scan using mri_robust_register using the following commands:

mri_robust_register --mov wholebrain.mgz --dst hippocampus.mgz --cost nmi --lta 
wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -satit --noinit --nosym

mri_convert -at wholebrain_to_hippocampus.lta -rl hippocampus.mgz 
wholebrain.mgz wholebrain_reg_to_hipppcampus.mgz

My plan was then to run recon-all on the newly upsampled, registered 
wholebrain_reg_to_hippocampus.mgz image. And then run recon-all on the 
T2-weighted scan using the -hippocampal-subfields-T1T2 flag. However, the 
resampled whole brain T1-weighted image now has only a partial FOV.

Is there a way that I can preserve the full field of view in the T1-weighted 
scan? I've experimented with mri_coreg and flirt and am at a loss.

Many thanks in advance,
Lara


Lara Foland-Ross, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University School of Medicine
401 Quarry Road, Room 1356
Stanford, CA 94305-5795


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