[Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-17 Thread francesca strappini
Hi! I successfully run the preprocessing on some polarangle data
(preproc-sess -sf seesid -surface self lhrh -fwhm 5).
Now I would like to do the subtraction between some runs and then to
visualize this subtraction on the surface (so without to analyze the
data with Fourier analysis).
Does anybody know how to do that?

Thanks!

Francesca
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Re: [Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-17 Thread Douglas N Greve

Hi Francesca, can you be more specific about what you want to do?  If 
you just want to subtract the raw data between runs, you can use fscalc.
doug

francesca strappini wrote:
> Hi! I successfully run the preprocessing on some polarangle data
> (preproc-sess -sf seesid -surface self lhrh -fwhm 5).
> Now I would like to do the subtraction between some runs and then to
> visualize this subtraction on the surface (so without to analyze the
> data with Fourier analysis).
> Does anybody know how to do that?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Francesca
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Re: [Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-17 Thread francesca strappini
Sorry, I try to be more specific.
I would like to be able to take the volume-to-surface transformation
calculated on one set of functional data, and apply that
transformation to another set of functional data (the subtraction) of
the same subject. This will allow me to display arbitrary functional
values on a surface.

Thanks!

Francesca
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Re: [Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-17 Thread Douglas N Greve
You can use bbregister to compute the transformation for each run based 
on the middle time point of that run (and assuming you've motion 
corrected the run), then use mri_vol2surf to resample any data set 
aligned with the middle time point to the subject's surface or the 
fsaverage surface. You can do that for each run separately, then use 
fscalc to compute the difference.
doug

francesca strappini wrote:
> Sorry, I try to be more specific.
> I would like to be able to take the volume-to-surface transformation
> calculated on one set of functional data, and apply that
> transformation to another set of functional data (the subtraction) of
> the same subject. This will allow me to display arbitrary functional
> values on a surface.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Francesca
>
>
>   

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Re: [Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-17 Thread francesca strappini
Thanks a lot!
I tried the registration with bbregister but unfortunately when I checked
the result the functional volume was very distant from the target.
Could I tried something else to improve the registration?

I typed:

bbregister --s subject --mov name_file.nii --reg register.dat --init-fsl
--bold


Thanks again!

Francesca
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Re: [Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-17 Thread Douglas N Greve
It was probably the initialization that failed. To test this, run 
fslregister (very similar command line to bbregister). If that does not 
look good, then it is an init problem. If these were acquired in the 
same session, then you can try using --init-header. If you have spm 
installed, you can try --init-spm. The spm solution requires that SPM be 
set up properly for this program, which is not always so easy. It also 
requires matlab.

doug

francesca strappini wrote:
> Thanks a lot!
> I tried the registration with bbregister but unfortunately when I 
> checked the result the functional volume was very distant from the 
> target.
> Could I tried something else to improve the registration?
>
> I typed:
>
> bbregister --s subject --mov name_file.nii --reg register.dat 
> --init-fsl --bold
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Francesca

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Re: [Freesurfer] register data to the surface

2011-08-22 Thread Douglas N Greve
This is not the correct procedure. Try looking at the multi-modal 
integration tutorial on our web site. Basically you should not register 
the difference image. Instead, register the middle time point of the raw 
data of the fMRI to the anatomical. Motion correct the time series to 
the middle time point. When you analyze the data in whatever way you are 
using, analyze the motion corrected data. You can then use the 
registration computed from the raw data for anything derived from the 
motion corrected data.
doug

francesca strappini wrote:
> Yes, It's a whole brain acquisition and the functional and the 
> anatomical data come from the same subject.
> I try to explain all the story. I acquired 12 runs of polarangle per 
> subject in two different days. I have 3 conditions and 4 runs for 
> every condition. In each day the subjects did all the conditions (6 
> runs per day).
> I calculated a sort of subtraction between these conditions, 
> unfortunately it's not a simple subtraction and for this reason I 
> didn't use fscalc. What I tried to do is to register this subtraction 
> to the surface but the process failed probably because the result of 
> the subtraction is as very small activation only in the occipital 
> cortex (in fact the conditions are slightly different).
> Do you think that is there something else that I can try?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Francesca
>

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