Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-11-06 Thread Ani Varjabedian

Hi Adam,

Well that is good to hear! So you are  all set with this problem then?

-Ani


On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Adam Mezher wrote:


Hi Ani,

I actually did end up fixing the insula mis-segmentation using either control 
points or WM edits for many subjects (I think the one I sent you too, not 
sure). However, I did notice that in some subjects, the edits will push the wm 
line out a little too much such that minor part of the medial insula will be 
labeled as WM instead of insula. It is pretty minor though so don’t think it is 
a big deal anyway.

-Adam
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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-11-06 Thread Adam Mezher
Hi Ani,

I actually did end up fixing the insula mis-segmentation using either control 
points or WM edits for many subjects (I think the one I sent you too, not 
sure). However, I did notice that in some subjects, the edits will push the wm 
line out a little too much such that minor part of the medial insula will be 
labeled as WM instead of insula. It is pretty minor though so don’t think it is 
a big deal anyway.

-Adam
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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-11-06 Thread Ani Varjabedian

Hi Adam,

I know in your past email you mentioned that you do not think control 
points could fix the situation, could you tell me why you think that? Have 
you tried adding some and it failed?


I took a look at your data and the wm value seems pretty low (low 70-80s) 
around the area near where the surfaces cut off the insula. I would 
suggest putting a in a few control points and running the subject again.


If this does not work, let us know and I can look into some other options. 
But if you can fix it in the surfaces first, it will push the gm line out 
and that area will get included in the aparc label later on. Right now it 
probably isn't being labeled because it isn't considered part of the 
cortex.


-Ani


On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Adam Mezher wrote:


I uploaded one when I sent the first email, did you receive it? Uploaded to:
 ftp.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu ; cd transfer/incoming

The file was titled ‘mezher_insula_fail.tar.gz’ which contains the entire FS 
folder for one subject. Should I go ahead and resend it?

Thanks!

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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-10-30 Thread Adam Mezher
I uploaded one when I sent the first email, did you receive it? Uploaded to:

 ftp.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu ; cd transfer/incoming

The file was titled ‘mezher_insula_fail.tar.gz’ which contains the entire FS 
folder for one subject. Should I go ahead and resend it?

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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-10-30 Thread Bruce Fischl
Can you send us an image?



> On Oct 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam Mezher  wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe it's in the surfaces. It is apparent when I load the lh.pial and 
> lh.white over the brainmask.
> 
> thanks,
> Adam
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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-10-30 Thread Adam Mezher

I believe it's in the surfaces. It is apparent when I load the lh.pial and 
lh.white over the brainmask.

thanks,
Adam
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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-10-30 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Adam

underestimated the insula in the aseg or in the surfaces?

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 29 Oct 
2014, Adam Mezher wrote:



Hi Bruce,

Sorry for not clarifying. A number of subjects in our set have underestimated 
insula (usually anatomical right insula but sometimes both). I just uploaded an 
example to the ftp.

I don’t think control points or wm edits can help with some of these so I 
wanted to see how we could go about editing them manually by adding the correct 
label to the empty voxels with the Edit Segmentation tool in tkmedit.

Thank you,
Adam
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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-10-29 Thread Adam Mezher
Hi Bruce,

Sorry for not clarifying. A number of subjects in our set have underestimated 
insula (usually anatomical right insula but sometimes both). I just uploaded an 
example to the ftp. 

I don’t think control points or wm edits can help with some of these so I 
wanted to see how we could go about editing them manually by adding the correct 
label to the empty voxels with the Edit Segmentation tool in tkmedit. 

Thank you,
Adam
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Re: [Freesurfer] adding insula voxels

2014-10-29 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Adam

sorry, I've lost the context for this. Why are you adding voxels to the 
aparc+aseg in the insula?

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Adam Mezher wrote:

> Hi Bruce and FS group,
> Thanks again for the speedy replies and help with everything. Quick question
> about editing voxels (specifically those in the lh/rh insula). Should I
> simply add specific voxels to the aparc+aseg for this step? It was a little
> unclear on the wiki.
> 
> Also, is there a specific command to re-run the stats/etc. after these edits
> are performed?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Adam
> 
>
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