[Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
Hey all, The 3rd annual UTOSC (Utah Open Source Conference) [1] starts today. It's a conference that gives Open Source users/hackers a chance gather together to mingle and share. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, this year I've offered to work with a friend of mine to lead a BoF (Birds of a Feather) discussion on Open Source Telephony [2]. While it should mostly be group discussion, you never know when people are going to get shy and clam up. *If* they do, it would be nice to have some slides to fill that time. Rather than make some from scratch (that are unlikely to get used), I thought I'd ask here and see if anyone has a FS slide deck that they wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks, Gabe 1) http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/ 2) http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/136/ ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > Hey all, > > The 3rd annual UTOSC (Utah Open Source Conference) [1] starts today. > It's a conference that gives Open Source users/hackers a chance gather > together to mingle and share. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, this year > I've offered to work with a friend of mine to lead a BoF (Birds of a > Feather) discussion on Open Source Telephony [2]. > > While it should mostly be group discussion, you never know when people > are going to get shy and clam up. *If* they do, it would be nice to > have some slides to fill that time. Rather than make some from > scratch (that are unlikely to get used), I thought I'd ask here and > see if anyone has a FS slide deck that they wouldn't mind sharing. > > Thanks, > Gabe > > > 1) http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/ > 2) http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/136/ > There are numerous slides and such from ClueCon. Go to http://www.cluecon.com and you can download both the video files as well as the actual presentations. The presentation files are in various formats such as PPT(X), PDF, and Keynote. The second presentation on day 1 is Anthony Minessale and he talks a lot about expanding one's thinking when it comes to applying FreeSWITCH in production. For example, some people will jump through crazy hoops to solve a problem "because that's how they've always done it." Anyway, check out that video and presentation file for some great ideas. -MC > > ___ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the 100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like we'll be shooting from the hip. :) >From my phone, Gabe On Thursday, October 8, 2009, Michael Collins wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Gabriel Gunderson > > wrote: > > Hey all, > > The 3rd annual UTOSC (Utah Open Source Conference) [1] starts today. > It's a conference that gives Open Source users/hackers a chance gather > together to mingle and share. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, this year > I've offered to work with a friend of mine to lead a BoF (Birds of a > Feather) discussion on Open Source Telephony [2]. > > While it should mostly be group discussion, you never know when people > are going to get shy and clam up. *If* they do, it would be nice to > have some slides to fill that time. Rather than make some from > scratch (that are unlikely to get used), I thought I'd ask here and > see if anyone has a FS slide deck that they wouldn't mind sharing. > > Thanks, > Gabe > > > 1) http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/ > 2) http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/136/ > > There are numerous slides and such from ClueCon. Go to http://www.cluecon.com > and you can download both the video files as well as the actual > presentations. The presentation files are in various formats such as PPT(X), > PDF, and Keynote. > The second presentation on day 1 is Anthony Minessale and he talks a lot > about expanding one's thinking when it comes to applying FreeSWITCH in > production. For example, some people will jump through crazy hoops to solve a > problem "because that's how they've always done it." Anyway, check out that > video and presentation file for some great ideas. > -MC > > > > ___ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > > ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the > 100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like > we'll be shooting from the hip. :) > > We experienced something similar at ClueCon, but it was that the hotel's DHCP server was a total wuss. :) -MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: >> Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the >> 100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like >> we'll be shooting from the hip. :) >> > We experienced something similar at ClueCon, but it was that the hotel's > DHCP server was a total wuss. :) So, I just got back from the first day of the conference and there was plenty of interest in FreeSWITCH from all the Asterisk users. We had a good time and answered lots of questions. It was interesting to hear what their perceptions about FS were. Gabe ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gabriel Gunderson > wrote: > >> Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the > >> 100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like > >> we'll be shooting from the hip. :) > >> > > We experienced something similar at ClueCon, but it was that the hotel's > > DHCP server was a total wuss. :) > > So, I just got back from the first day of the conference and there was > plenty of interest in FreeSWITCH from all the Asterisk users. We had > a good time and answered lots of questions. It was interesting to > hear what their perceptions about FS were. > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. -MC > > Gabe > > ___ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins wrote: > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they > are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will > not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if they know it is. At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. Gabe ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins > wrote: > > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that > they > > are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they > will > > not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. > > Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS > community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS > camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as > Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of > them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when > someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I > remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't > notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if > they know it is. > Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about cleaning that up. > > At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more > interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons > to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. > Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides, FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive) equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.). > > Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. > > Gabe > Thanks, MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins > wrote: >> Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know >> that they >> are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that >> they will >> not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. > > Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS > community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS > camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as > Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of > them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when > someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I > remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't > notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if > they know it is. > > At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more > interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons > to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. > > Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. I have certainly seen this on irc in the past and we should do our best to avoid this, I have not seen this in the docs or wiki, do you know of any specifics you can point me to so we can correct this issue. Mike ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
I have seen this on the wiki too, for example: Q: Does it require hardware, kernel modules, ztdumshit, etc? > > Nope! :D You must be thinking of [http://sofaswitch.org/eg/aac.jpg|Something > Else] > I know that's just a joke and we might make one or two jokes, but we don't really hate Asterisk and we welcome them, there are some people who might get offended by the jokes (specially Asterisk users) but I have already corrected these from the wiki. Thanks for the feedback Gabriel. Diego On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Michael Jerris wrote: > > On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins > > wrote: > >> Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know > >> that they > >> are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that > >> they will > >> not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. > > > > Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS > > community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS > > camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as > > Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of > > them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when > > someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I > > remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't > > notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if > > they know it is. > > > > At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more > > interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons > > to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. > > > > Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. > > > I have certainly seen this on irc in the past and we should do our > best to avoid this, I have not seen this in the docs or wiki, do you > know of any specifics you can point me to so we can correct this issue. > > Mike > > > ___ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
I have tried to police the wiki when things like this appear.. its one thing to crack a joke in fun from time to time... but to put stuff like that on the wiki isn't acceptable. /b On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Diego Viola wrote: > > I know that's just a joke and we might make one or two jokes, but we > don't really hate Asterisk and we welcome them, there are some > people who might get offended by the jokes (specially Asterisk > users) but I have already corrected these from the wiki. > > Thanks for the feedback Gabriel. > > Diego ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Brian West wrote: > I have tried to police the wiki when things like this appear.. its one > thing to crack a joke in fun from time to time... but to put stuff > like that on the wiki isn't acceptable. > > /b > > It seemed appropriate to do so, therefore I added a small snippet on the documentation guidelines: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Documentation_guidelines#Keep_It_Professional -MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Michael Collins wrote: > It seemed appropriate to do so, therefore I added a small snippet on the > documentation guidelines: > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Documentation_guidelines#Keep_It_Professional Good guidelines... Just in time to help the author of this lovely bit: 'I would love some brief descriptions of what you guys are doing with FreeSWITCH so I can write an article to shove down the throats of idiots who keep saying that "FreeSWITCH is an Asterisk alternative that offers basic PBX functionality."' Link: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/FS_weekly_2009_10_09 Best, Gabe ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Michael Collins > wrote: > > It seemed appropriate to do so, therefore I added a small snippet on the > > documentation guidelines: > > > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Documentation_guidelines#Keep_It_Professional > > > Good guidelines... > > > Just in time to help the author of this lovely bit: > 'I would love some brief descriptions of what you guys are doing with > FreeSWITCH so I can write an article to shove down the throats of > idiots who keep saying that "FreeSWITCH is an Asterisk alternative > that offers basic PBX functionality."' > Touché, my good man, touché. I'll fix that right away. :) -MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Michael Collins wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Michael Collins >> wrote: >> > It seemed appropriate to do so, therefore I added a small snippet on the >> > documentation guidelines: >> > >> > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Documentation_guidelines#Keep_It_Professional >> >> Good guidelines... >> >> Just in time to help the author of this lovely bit: >> 'I would love some brief descriptions of what you guys are doing with >> FreeSWITCH so I can write an article to shove down the throats of >> idiots who keep saying that "FreeSWITCH is an Asterisk alternative >> that offers basic PBX functionality."' > > Touché, my good man, touché. I'll fix that right away. :) Never let it be said that you're not a good sport. :) Gabe ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Michael Collins > wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Gabriel Gunderson > wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Michael Collins > >> wrote: > >> > It seemed appropriate to do so, therefore I added a small snippet on > the > >> > documentation guidelines: > >> > > >> > > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Documentation_guidelines#Keep_It_Professional > >> > >> Good guidelines... > >> > >> Just in time to help the author of this lovely bit: > >> 'I would love some brief descriptions of what you guys are doing with > >> FreeSWITCH so I can write an article to shove down the throats of > >> idiots who keep saying that "FreeSWITCH is an Asterisk alternative > >> that offers basic PBX functionality."' > > > > Touché, my good man, touché. I'll fix that right away. :) > > Never let it be said that you're not a good sport. > > :) > > Gabe > > Well, I'm occasionally a good sport. ;) -MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
If that's the case, does this also apply to VoIP gateway services? If so, I'll consider phrasing this differently: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Voicepulse.xml --begin-- Voicepulse Warning WARNING!!! Recent changes (Sep 2008) in VoicePulse have limited connect03 to only IAX termination. Please remove any entries that you may have reflecting the gateway below from your dialplan as it will most likely answer the call and play a message saying something to the effect of "Your call could not be completed as dialed because we changed our production environment in an effort to demonstrate what bad engineering is all about. BAD is an acronymn for Broken As Designed. Please hang up and make changes on all your switches. Even though we shouldn't have answered the call and simply ignored it entirely so that another gateway could facilitate your call, we FELT it wise to seriously inconvenience you by answering the call immediately giving no other gateway a chance to place the call. Thanks for using our service and we look forward to abusing you again in the near future. UPDATE - Problem getting worse, not better 3/30/2009. I switched DID providers because of problems w/ Voicepulse, such as echo, dropped calls, and consistent registration problems hence calls don't get placed and inbound don't get routed to me. Incidentally, they will not port DID's, they'll tell you they will, but they don't. --end-- Perhaps just saying, "stay away, far far away. Recommend this service only to people and/or organizations you don't like or are in direct competition with" would suffice eh? Suggestions? Recommendations? Best Regards, Karl J. Vesterling k...@ken-ton.com 202-461-3231 x0 On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Michael Collins wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins wrote: > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they > are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will > not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if they know it is. Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about cleaning that up. At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides, FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive) equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.). Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. Gabe Thanks, MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- users http://www.freeswitch.org ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
Karl, Yeah, this post is wrong. You've got "acronym" misspelled. Once you fix that then I think it's all good! ;) Seriously, it's okay to put critical information into the wiki, but perhaps you could remove the tongue-in-cheek comments. -MC On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Karl Vesterling wrote: > > If that's the case, does this also apply to VoIP gateway services? > > If so, I'll consider phrasing this differently: > > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Voicepulse.xml > --begin-- > Voicepulse Warning*WARNING!!!* Recent changes (Sep 2008) in VoicePulse > have limited connect03 to only IAX termination. Please remove any entries > that you may have reflecting the gateway below from your dialplan as it will > most likely answer the call and play a message saying something to the > effect of "Your call could not be completed as dialed because we changed our > production environment in an effort to demonstrate what bad engineering is > all about. BAD is an acronymn for Broken As Designed. Please hang up and > make changes on all your switches. Even though we shouldn't have answered > the call and simply ignored it entirely so that another gateway could > facilitate your call, we FELT it wise to seriously inconvenience you by > answering the call immediately giving no other gateway a chance to place the > call. Thanks for using our service and we look forward to abusing you again > in the near future. > *UPDATE* - Problem getting worse, not better *3/30/2009*. I switched DID > providers because of problems w/ Voicepulse, such as echo, dropped calls, > and consistent registration problems hence calls don't get placed and > inbound don't get routed to me. Incidentally, they will not port DID's, > they'll tell you they will, but they don't. > --end-- > > Perhaps just saying, "stay away, far far away. Recommend this service only > to people and/or organizations you don't like or are in direct competition > with" would suffice eh? > > Suggestions? Recommendations? > > Best Regards, > Karl J. Vesterling > k...@ken-ton.com > 202-461-3231 x0 > > On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Michael Collins wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins >> wrote: >> > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that >> they >> > are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they >> will >> > not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. >> >> Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS >> community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS >> camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as >> Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of >> them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when >> someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I >> remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't >> notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if >> they know it is. >> > > Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could > be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of > questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the > first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of > Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to > those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is > that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They > left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with > Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about > cleaning that up. > >> >> At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more >> interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons >> to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. >> > > Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides, > FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive) > equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.). > >> >> Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. >> >> Gabe >> > Thanks, > MC > > ___ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > > > > ___ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org > > ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswi
Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?
Michael; Roger that. I'll check my schedule to see when I might have some time available to make the change. It seems as if I have some time available the tuesday after (bleep) freezes over. Acronym corrected. ;-) Best Regards, Karl J. Vesterling k...@ken-ton.com 202-461-3231 x0 On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Michael Collins wrote: Karl, Yeah, this post is wrong. You've got "acronym" misspelled. Once you fix that then I think it's all good! ;) Seriously, it's okay to put critical information into the wiki, but perhaps you could remove the tongue-in-cheek comments. -MC On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Karl Vesterling wrote: If that's the case, does this also apply to VoIP gateway services? If so, I'll consider phrasing this differently: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Voicepulse.xml --begin-- Voicepulse Warning WARNING!!! Recent changes (Sep 2008) in VoicePulse have limited connect03 to only IAX termination. Please remove any entries that you may have reflecting the gateway below from your dialplan as it will most likely answer the call and play a message saying something to the effect of "Your call could not be completed as dialed because we changed our production environment in an effort to demonstrate what bad engineering is all about. BAD is an acronymn for Broken As Designed. Please hang up and make changes on all your switches. Even though we shouldn't have answered the call and simply ignored it entirely so that another gateway could facilitate your call, we FELT it wise to seriously inconvenience you by answering the call immediately giving no other gateway a chance to place the call. Thanks for using our service and we look forward to abusing you again in the near future. UPDATE - Problem getting worse, not better 3/30/2009. I switched DID providers because of problems w/ Voicepulse, such as echo, dropped calls, and consistent registration problems hence calls don't get placed and inbound don't get routed to me. Incidentally, they will not port DID's, they'll tell you they will, but they don't. --end-- Perhaps just saying, "stay away, far far away. Recommend this service only to people and/or organizations you don't like or are in direct competition with" would suffice eh? Suggestions? Recommendations? Best Regards, Karl J. Vesterling k...@ken-ton.com 202-461-3231 x0 On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Michael Collins wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins wrote: > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they > are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will > not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels. Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if they know it is. Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about cleaning that up. At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit. Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides, FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive) equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.). Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents. Gabe Thanks, MC ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- users http://www.freeswitch.org ___ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
