Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
On Thursday 26 August 2004 08:26, Matthieu Weber wrote: > are changing time every week). Actually, it might be useful to have a > list of overlaping shows (browsing the whole guide is not really > necessary for that purpose, there could be a function that looks for > overlaping and present them to the user with options on what to do > (remove one of the scheduled recordings, assign another device to one of > the recordings...) However, this seems to be less of a TV guide thing, but should be integrated into the "TV Recordings" section. -- Ciao, / /.o. /--/ ..o / / ANS ooo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
On Wed 25.08.2004 at 04:12:23PM +0300, Matthieu Weber wrote: > After downloading the TV program from the net with xmltv, I usually go > through the wole guide to see what's interesting in the coming week > (especially in the evenings when movies are scheduled). I forgot to add: I also use the TV guide as it is now to show me if there are overlaping scheduled recordings (coming from favorites that are changing time every week). Actually, it might be useful to have a list of overlaping shows (browsing the whole guide is not really necessary for that purpose, there could be a function that looks for overlaping and present them to the user with options on what to do (remove one of the scheduled recordings, assign another device to one of the recordings...) Matthieu -- (~._.~)Matthieu Weber - Université de Jyväskylä (~._.~) ( ? )email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( ? ) ()- -() public key id : 452AE0AD ()- -() (_)-(_) "Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht (Germain Muller)" (_)-(_) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
Dirk, I agree to this, tailoring the user interface for specific tasks is always a good idea. For the "expert" user, we could always have the old-style tv-guide (all info on one screen) hanging around as a plugin or so. Richard. Dirk Meyer wrote: Richard van Paasen wrote: Another idea for the textual version of the tv guide is to restrict the information on one page to either one channel or one time-box. Browsing through the tv guide "pages" (either channels or time boxes) then can be done with the left/right keys on the remote. Walking through rows on a page with up/down. E.g. (channel mode): Channel 1 08.00 program 1 08.10 program 2 09.00 program 3 10.30 program 4 18.00 program 5 ... E.g. (time-box mode): Programs running at 08.05: Channel 1 Program w Channel 2 Program x Channel 3 Program y Channel 4 Program z ... The tv-guide should be able to toggle between "time-box" and "channels" mode. This way more space (i.e. the total width of the screen) is available for a tv guide entry. Time-box mode could step by 5 minutes or so when pressing the left/right (pageing) key. Hope this description is clear enough, mail me otherwise! I just had a similar idea. Why not two types of tv guides. We use the tv guide for two reasons: watching tv now and recording. Both have different needs: Watching now: I want to know what's up at this time on all channels. This is the time boxed mode from above. It is similar to the current guide but you can't select a program, you select a channel. If you select a program in 3 minutes, you still get the channel and the program starts in 3 minutes. So selecting channels is the logic here. Record: I know the channel, so a simple listing area is want we want here. Everyone who tried to record a program the day after tomorrow knows that the current guide can't handle this well. Now we only need a way to switch between the two ways. Comments requested before I do this. Dischi --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
--- Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > I just had a similar idea. Why not two types of tv guides. We use the > tv guide for two reasons: watching tv now and recording. Both have > different needs: > > Watching now: I want to know what's up at this time on all > channels. This is the time boxed mode from above. It is similar to > the > current guide but you can't select a program, you select a channel. > If > you select a program in 3 minutes, you still get the channel and the > program starts in 3 minutes. So selecting channels is the logic here. > > > Record: I know the channel, so a simple listing area is want we want > here. Everyone who tried to record a program the day after tomorrow > knows that the current guide can't handle this well. > > Now we only need a way to switch between the two ways. > > Comments requested before I do this. I agree with this idea. Maybe another 3rd screen to view as much info as you can, maybe using a different concept... maybe not using the program size as we do now, maybe with selectable sorting or grouping. For example, we could show programs as blocks and do some kind of grouping, maybe by size, times it was watched/recorded, ... Well... the 2 afore mentioned are enough for now ;) As for switch, we could use the same as other (DISPLAY), or even the GUIDE button. Gustavo ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - navegue de graça com conexão de qualidade! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
No it was actually a freevo based rip off of what the tivo did. It was a working plugin for a while but got broken with some of the changes for 1.5. I was just wondering if the original author had fixed it for 1.5 or was interested in doing it. Will see if i have an old screengrab rshortt sent me on IRC about it. -- Michael Ruelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tuesday 24 August 2004 23:53, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > > BTW, I don't like the current tv guide. Too much information in many > > > small boxes. If anyone has a new idea, please post. I can create that > > > guide, but I need ideas from you. > > > > How about that Tivo-like guide someone implemented in the past? > > Could you describe that for those of us who never saw a Tivo before? > (Or give some WWW-pointers?) > > -- > Ciao, / /.o. > /--/ ..o > / / ANS ooo > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > ___ > Freevo-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
On Wed 25.08.2004 at 02:28:31PM +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote: > I just had a similar idea. Why not two types of tv guides. We use the > tv guide for two reasons: watching tv now and recording. Both have > different needs: > > Watching now: I want to know what's up at this time on all > channels. This is the time boxed mode from above. It is similar to the > current guide but you can't select a program, you select a channel. If > you select a program in 3 minutes, you still get the channel and the > program starts in 3 minutes. So selecting channels is the logic here. > > Record: I know the channel, so a simple listing area is want we want > here. Everyone who tried to record a program the day after tomorrow > knows that the current guide can't handle this well. > > Now we only need a way to switch between the two ways. > > Comments requested before I do this. After downloading the TV program from the net with xmltv, I usually go through the wole guide to see what's interesting in the coming week (especially in the evenings when movies are scheduled). I have no idea what the proper interface could be, but having as much information as possible at once is what I am used to now. Just my 2 cents. Matthieu -- (~._.~)Matthieu Weber - Université de Jyväskylä (~._.~) ( ? )email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( ? ) ()- -() public key id : 452AE0AD ()- -() (_)-(_) "Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht (Germain Muller)" (_)-(_) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
Mick wrote: Hey (slightly OT). With DVB cards (attn rob..) can you grab analogue too? I was reading some PC mag and it mentioned this was a feature on some cards.. I didn't realise this.. Could this be utilised somehow? Some DVB cards capture analogue too, I'm not sure which though, maybe the dvb-c or dvb-t with the brooktree chipset. -Rob --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
RE: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
> I plan on copying Media Center for MeBox. I think its guide layout is > nice: > >http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/xpmce_review_94.gif > I like this, more room for description and also grabing frames (or live video) from the card! Way cool.. Hey (slightly OT). With DVB cards (attn rob..) can you grab analogue too? I was reading some PC mag and it mentioned this was a feature on some cards.. I didn't realise this.. Could this be utilised somehow? Mick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 23:53, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > BTW, I don't like the current tv guide. Too much information in many > > small boxes. If anyone has a new idea, please post. I can create that > > guide, but I need ideas from you. > > How about that Tivo-like guide someone implemented in the past? Could you describe that for those of us who never saw a Tivo before? (Or give some WWW-pointers?) -- Ciao, / /.o. /--/ ..o / / ANS ooo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
--- Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Richard van Paasen wrote: > > I "only" have a 1 sec delay when switching chanels (20 in total) . > One > > could cache the channels and update them while the matrix is being > > shown (old pictures in greyscale, updated in full color) but hey, > that > > are implementation details. > > > > The guide can of course be designed in many different ways, I'm > just > > suggesting a different way to display a view on the tv guide. > > BTW, I don't like the current tv guide. Too much information in many > small boxes. If anyone has a new idea, please post. I can create that > guide, but I need ideas from you. How about that Tivo-like guide someone implemented in the past? Gustavo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
speaking of which what ever happened to that tivoguide variant. I think we should include it with a different name for all the obvious reasons, but i actually liked it quite a bit. -- Michael Ruelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Richard van Paasen wrote: > > I "only" have a 1 sec delay when switching chanels (20 in total) . One > > could cache the channels and update them while the matrix is being > > shown (old pictures in greyscale, updated in full color) but hey, that > > are implementation details. > > > > The guide can of course be designed in many different ways, I'm just > > suggesting a different way to display a view on the tv guide. > > BTW, I don't like the current tv guide. Too much information in many > small boxes. If anyone has a new idea, please post. I can create that > guide, but I need ideas from you. > > > Dischi > > -- > FATAL ERROR! SYSTEM HALTED! - Press any key to do nothing... > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > ___ > Freevo-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
Another idea for the textual version of the tv guide is to restrict the information on one page to either one channel or one time-box. Browsing through the tv guide "pages" (either channels or time boxes) then can be done with the left/right keys on the remote. Walking through rows on a page with up/down. E.g. (channel mode): Channel 1 08.00 program 1 08.10 program 2 09.00 program 3 10.30 program 4 18.00 program 5 ... E.g. (time-box mode): Programs running at 08.05: Channel 1 Program w Channel 2 Program x Channel 3 Program y Channel 4 Program z ... The tv-guide should be able to toggle between "time-box" and "channels" mode. This way more space (i.e. the total width of the screen) is available for a tv guide entry. Time-box mode could step by 5 minutes or so when pressing the left/right (pageing) key. Hope this description is clear enough, mail me otherwise! Richard. Dirk Meyer wrote: Richard van Paasen wrote: I "only" have a 1 sec delay when switching chanels (20 in total) . One could cache the channels and update them while the matrix is being shown (old pictures in greyscale, updated in full color) but hey, that are implementation details. The guide can of course be designed in many different ways, I'm just suggesting a different way to display a view on the tv guide. BTW, I don't like the current tv guide. Too much information in many small boxes. If anyone has a new idea, please post. I can create that guide, but I need ideas from you. Dischi --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freevo-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel
Re: [Freevo-devel] Re: New Idea
On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 19:49 +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote: > BTW, I don't like the current tv guide. Too much information in many > small boxes. I don't like it either. > If anyone has a new idea, please post. I can create that > guide, but I need ideas from you. I plan on copying Media Center for MeBox. I think its guide layout is nice: http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/xpmce_review_94.gif Cheers, Jason. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part