Re: [Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Nicholas Ruddick
Ah ace! tvtime was my problem, removed it and it doesn't need X anymore. 
Thanks alot Dischi! I don't have a TV card installed and I must have 
once emerged that thinking I'd need it sometime. Thats much much better. 
I'm trying to cut down on the packages installed so thats its the bare 
minimum needed. All I want is freevo to play movies and audio with 
mplayer, basic system functions and have webmin installed remote admin. 
So far I'm down to 208 packages with some more to trim out. :-)

Nick
Dirk Meyer wrote:
Dirk Meyer wrote:
 

Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
   

Question: I'm getting really annoyed that I cannot get rid of xorg-x11
on the system, can you get rid of it?
qpkg -I -q xorg-x11 returns that it is not depended on by anything.
I can uninstall it but whenever I emerge -uv world it wants to
reinstall it every time. I have the -X use flag set and all X like
packages removed.
 

Use 'emerge --try -upD world' to see who requests this.
   

Arg, not try, tree!
emerge --tree -upD world
Dischi
 


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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Lucian Muresan
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
Ok cool,
After re-looking at my packages.keywords, I realise it only needs to be:
dev-python/mmpython ~x86
media-tv/freevo ~x86
media-libs/xine-lib ~x86
as pylirc, lsdvd are now stable and libstdc++-v3 is not installed/needed.
I'm going through the system now removing any packages that I think are 
not needed looking through qpkg -I. I don't have xmltv or a TV input 
card installed so I'm still not sure where to look. I await your use 
flags with interest :-)
Hi Nick,
here are my USE flags, and I have a X-less Gentoo, which of course 
doens't mean the're all required like that :-) :

USE="userlocales vdr bootsplash dts lzo -sdl -esd faad faac 
pp_libavcodec nptlonly -fortran lzw-tiff tiff cdparanoia dvdread live 
rtc theora speex ipv6 divx4linux v4l v4l2 libcaca jack lcd -xmms -opengl 
-svga -xv -spell nptl zlib xml xml2 acpi -arts avi encode -mozilla usb 
-X -gtk -gnome -kde alsa mmx ffmpeg xvid samba matroska -xosd -savage 
-mysql -qt -java -matrox directfb fbcon 3dnow lirc aalib dvd dvb -gtk2 
ldap fusion -gphoto2 dvdr flac -cups sasl"

Cheers,
Lucian
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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Lucian Muresan
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
Ok cool,
After re-looking at my packages.keywords, I realise it only needs to be:
dev-python/mmpython ~x86
media-tv/freevo ~x86
media-libs/xine-lib ~x86
as pylirc, lsdvd are now stable and libstdc++-v3 is not installed/needed.
I'm going through the system now removing any packages that I think are 
not needed looking through qpkg -I. I don't have xmltv or a TV input 
card installed so I'm still not sure where to look. I await your use 
flags with interest :-)
Hi Nick,
here are my USE flags, and I have a X-less Gentoo, which of course
doens't mean the're all required like that :-) :
USE="userlocales vdr bootsplash dts lzo -sdl -esd faad faac
pp_libavcodec nptlonly -fortran lzw-tiff tiff cdparanoia dvdread live
rtc theora speex ipv6 divx4linux v4l v4l2 libcaca jack lcd -xmms -opengl
-svga -xv -spell nptl zlib xml xml2 acpi -arts avi encode -mozilla usb
-X -gtk -gnome -kde alsa mmx ffmpeg xvid samba matroska -xosd -savage
-mysql -qt -java -matrox directfb fbcon 3dnow lirc aalib dvd dvb -gtk2
ldap fusion -gphoto2 dvdr flac -cups sasl"
Cheers,
Lucian

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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Dirk Meyer
Evan Hisey wrote:
> Stupid Question, but what is the difference/advantage of Direct FB to
> just Frame Buffer?

For G400 is a different way for tv out. Some people prefer the mga_vid
wat for mplayer (fb), some dfbmga (direct fb). 


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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Dirk Meyer
Tim Southerwood wrote:
> My aim is to run freevo "dumb" (don't care about keyboard input) on fb1
> and leave the rest of the PC useable on fb0 with X, VT switching etc
> without disturbing fb1 and freevo

That would be great.

> No problem using mplayer by itself

Yes? How do you run X on your monitor and mplayer on tv out? That's
something I need. When I start mplayer, the monitor also switches to
that resolution and went black (because my TFT doesn't support
720x576).

> but using freevo with the fbcon driver, two things happen:
>
> 1) It wants to be started from a real VT (not a random X term) - that's
> soluble with a suitable inittab 
>
> 2) When I switch VT back to X or anywhere else, any attempt to control
> freevo using "freevo remote" will hang freevo waiting for its VT to come
> back (I can see that in strace). I know why that happens for typical
> usage, but it's irrelevant in my case, as freevo is driving it's own
> personal framebuffer.

Again, who did you set this up? And the solution to your problem:
freevo 2.0 has native dfb support without patching sdl. Maybe it works
that way. 


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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Dirk Meyer
Dirk Meyer wrote:
> Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
>> Question: I'm getting really annoyed that I cannot get rid of xorg-x11
>> on the system, can you get rid of it?
>> qpkg -I -q xorg-x11 returns that it is not depended on by anything.
>> I can uninstall it but whenever I emerge -uv world it wants to
>> reinstall it every time. I have the -X use flag set and all X like
>> packages removed.
>
> Use 'emerge --try -upD world' to see who requests this.

Arg, not try, tree!
emerge --tree -upD world


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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Dirk Meyer
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
> Question: I'm getting really annoyed that I cannot get rid of xorg-x11
> on the system, can you get rid of it?
> qpkg -I -q xorg-x11 returns that it is not depended on by anything.
> I can uninstall it but whenever I emerge -uv world it wants to
> reinstall it every time. I have the -X use flag set and all X like
> packages removed.

Use 'emerge --try -upD world' to see who requests this.


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dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.
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[Freevo-users] 1.5.3 Debian

2005-02-08 Thread Kari Smolander
Has the support for Debian been dropped? 1.5.3 was announced three weeks ago
and there have been no Debian packages available yet. It is no problem to
install manually, but the Debian packages have been a very convenient way to
keep the system up-to-date.

Kari



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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Nicholas Ruddick
Ok cool,
After re-looking at my packages.keywords, I realise it only needs to be:
dev-python/mmpython ~x86
media-tv/freevo ~x86
media-libs/xine-lib ~x86
as pylirc, lsdvd are now stable and libstdc++-v3 is not installed/needed.
I'm going through the system now removing any packages that I think are 
not needed looking through qpkg -I. I don't have xmltv or a TV input 
card installed so I'm still not sure where to look. I await your use 
flags with interest :-)

Nick
Lucian Muresan wrote:
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
Ah no, freevo is not displayed in 16:9 but 4:3. It gets the mode from 
freevo.conf as 720x576 like yours. Whenever I play 16:9 movies or put 
the audio visualisation on full screen my TV auto detects its in 
letterbox format and changes to showing full 16:9 goodness!

cool.
I forgot to put in my /etc/portage/packages.keywords so here it is:
dev-python/pylirc ~x86
dev-python/mmpython ~x86
media-video/lsdvd ~x86
media-tv/freevo ~x86
media-libs/xine-lib ~x86
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ~x86
That should make more sense to you now :-)

Yes, I'm using some of these too, and am very careful and selective 
this time :-)

Yes, I am using -O2, but whenever I made the box for some reason I 
chose this. I can't remember the justification but I am going to 
recompile the whole system with -O3 soon.

Question: I'm getting really annoyed that I cannot get rid of 
xorg-x11 on the system, can you get rid of it?
qpkg -I -q xorg-x11 returns that it is not depended on by anything.
I can uninstall it but whenever I emerge -uv world it wants to 
reinstall it every time. I have the -X use flag set and all X like 
packages removed.
Be interested to see your setup files too.

I'm still at work right now, but I hope not to forget to check on this 
tonight. But I can tell you, my htpc is X-less and will stay so as 
long as I can use my Matrox G400 DH, and an "emerge world" does not 
install X here. Maybe I'm not getting any xorg on my htpc as I unset a 
lot more USE flags than only "X", I think that's your problem. I will 
send you my flags when I get home.

Regards,
Lucian
P.S.: BTW, on my old Gentoo partition, every time I tried to emerge 
xmltv, it wanted to install Tcl/Tk and therefore xorg, that's why I 
ran xmltv on another (X-less too) computer, my home server...


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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Lucian Muresan
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
Ah no, freevo is not displayed in 16:9 but 4:3. It gets the mode from 
freevo.conf as 720x576 like yours. Whenever I play 16:9 movies or put 
the audio visualisation on full screen my TV auto detects its in 
letterbox format and changes to showing full 16:9 goodness!
cool.
I forgot to put in my /etc/portage/packages.keywords so here it is:
dev-python/pylirc ~x86
dev-python/mmpython ~x86
media-video/lsdvd ~x86
media-tv/freevo ~x86
media-libs/xine-lib ~x86
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ~x86
That should make more sense to you now :-)
Yes, I'm using some of these too, and am very careful and selective this 
time :-)

Yes, I am using -O2, but whenever I made the box for some reason I chose 
this. I can't remember the justification but I am going to recompile the 
whole system with -O3 soon.

Question: I'm getting really annoyed that I cannot get rid of xorg-x11 
on the system, can you get rid of it?
qpkg -I -q xorg-x11 returns that it is not depended on by anything.
I can uninstall it but whenever I emerge -uv world it wants to reinstall 
it every time. I have the -X use flag set and all X like packages removed.
Be interested to see your setup files too.

I'm still at work right now, but I hope not to forget to check on this 
tonight. But I can tell you, my htpc is X-less and will stay so as long 
as I can use my Matrox G400 DH, and an "emerge world" does not install X 
here. Maybe I'm not getting any xorg on my htpc as I unset a lot more 
USE flags than only "X", I think that's your problem. I will send you my 
flags when I get home.

Regards,
Lucian
P.S.: BTW, on my old Gentoo partition, every time I tried to emerge 
xmltv, it wanted to install Tcl/Tk and therefore xorg, that's why I ran 
xmltv on another (X-less too) computer, my home server...


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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Nicholas Ruddick
Ah no, freevo is not displayed in 16:9 but 4:3. It gets the mode from 
freevo.conf as 720x576 like yours. Whenever I play 16:9 movies or put 
the audio visualisation on full screen my TV auto detects its in 
letterbox format and changes to showing full 16:9 goodness!

I forgot to put in my /etc/portage/packages.keywords so here it is:
dev-python/pylirc ~x86
dev-python/mmpython ~x86
media-video/lsdvd ~x86
media-tv/freevo ~x86
media-libs/xine-lib ~x86
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ~x86
That should make more sense to you now :-)
Yes, I am using -O2, but whenever I made the box for some reason I chose 
this. I can't remember the justification but I am going to recompile the 
whole system with -O3 soon.

Question: I'm getting really annoyed that I cannot get rid of xorg-x11 
on the system, can you get rid of it?
qpkg -I -q xorg-x11 returns that it is not depended on by anything.
I can uninstall it but whenever I emerge -uv world it wants to reinstall 
it every time. I have the -X use flag set and all X like packages removed.
Be interested to see your setup files too.

Regards,
Nick
Lucian Muresan wrote:
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
Heres my setup using a G450 which works well for a PAL 16:9 TV setup.
/etc/directfbrc
matrox-crtc2
matrox-tv-standard=pal
primary-layer=02
disable-module=elo
disable-module=joystick
disable-module=keyboard
disable-module=ps2mouse
disable-module=serialmouse
disable-module=sonypi
disable-module=sdlinput
disable-module=lirc
no-vt-switch
graphics-vt
depth=32
no-cursor
sync
hardware
...
Interesting.
Is Freevo actually displayed in a 16:9 aspect ratio on your TV? I'm 
asking that because I see no line like "mode=720x576" (like I have for 
PAL 4:3) in your directfbrc.

Are you sure your Gentoo actually uses ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"? I 
thought it's "~x86", at least I had it that way when my libsdl and 
df_xine brokeon my old partition. But I see you are using the more 
conservative compiler flag "-O2", and I'm using "-03" on athlon 
thuinderbird arhitecture. Who knows, maybe the combination of these 
broke my old Gentoo. Now I'm happy without "~x86" flag, using it only 
for specific packages directly related to multimedia stuff. BTW, I 
should publish my configuration as well when I get home tonight, now 
that it's working again... ;-)

Lucian

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[Freevo-users] Re: call for working DirectFB configurations survey - please share your success stories!

2005-02-08 Thread Lucian Muresan
Nicholas Ruddick wrote:
Heres my setup using a G450 which works well for a PAL 16:9 TV setup.
/etc/directfbrc
matrox-crtc2
matrox-tv-standard=pal
primary-layer=02
disable-module=elo
disable-module=joystick
disable-module=keyboard
disable-module=ps2mouse
disable-module=serialmouse
disable-module=sonypi
disable-module=sdlinput
disable-module=lirc
no-vt-switch
graphics-vt
depth=32
no-cursor
sync
hardware
...
Interesting.
Is Freevo actually displayed in a 16:9 aspect ratio on your TV? I'm 
asking that because I see no line like "mode=720x576" (like I have for 
PAL 4:3) in your directfbrc.

Are you sure your Gentoo actually uses ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"? I thought 
it's "~x86", at least I had it that way when my libsdl and df_xine 
brokeon my old partition. But I see you are using the more conservative 
compiler flag "-O2", and I'm using "-03" on athlon thuinderbird 
arhitecture. Who knows, maybe the combination of these broke my old 
Gentoo. Now I'm happy without "~x86" flag, using it only for specific 
packages directly related to multimedia stuff. BTW, I should publish my 
configuration as well when I get home tonight, now that it's working 
again... ;-)

Lucian

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