Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
All I know is that if I have a disc mounted then start and stop freevo it is no longer mounted. Freevo must have some internal mounting already built in because when I put in a CD or DVD it automatically mounts it (I don't know if it is officially mounted or if it's just some internal trickery) and when I press the eject button on the drive itself it is unmounted and ejected automatically. I think the real problem that should be addressed is: If this is not working for you without supermount/submount then what is wrong with the freevo configuration you have as it SHOULD work like you want it to WITHOUT external automounting facilities. 2005/7/28, Evan Hisey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greet- I would say, preformance issue are the big thing. Freevo has not need to have any disc's mounted to play and the eject buttons work fine on my drives. As understand it Freevo handles that part in the background. Running a second system to do the same thing, is going ot add alot of undeeded over head with the potential of race or confilcts between the two systems. Lastly it just makes installing freevo that much harder Evan. On 7/27/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan, Could you be more specific? I don't see why you find this a bad idea. Greet- I think using something like submount/supermount is just a bad idea in this case. Freevo handles VCD/CD/DVD just fine without any kind of mounting madness outside of freevo. I added submount to make my freevobox pass the housewife :) test. Normal users will push the eject button. Like they use to do with CD players. They expect the devices behave like this. Intuitive behaviour. Creating a application where the user has to read a phone-book size manual full of exceptions doesn't make much sense to me. Mounted CD's needs to be umounted first before ejecting. Anyway, thnx to submount CD's get ejected using the eject button instead of issuing the eject command from the keyboard/remote control. adding a new CD to the tray gets automagicly detected and applied into freevo. So far I didn't see any problem with it. Perhaps this could raise performance issue with slower processors? Mandriva users using freevo should already have this feature thanks to supermount. Geert Evan On 7/26/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had covered this issue lately in the WIKI. Either you install submount or supermount. The mandrake distribution comes default with supermount http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/TipsAndTricks#head-1d05cdb982531dee65b0f3d20548b880722069ae Submount needs only a additional kernel module and some experiments with parameters in /etc/fstab Supermount needs a patched kernel HTH Geert On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you dont need to mount a dvd to play it. eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote, or . on your keyboard. I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes. Travis. WiSHiE wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you press eject on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD out, and put a new one in. So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use supermount? Because that would be handy :) You do not need to exit freevo. Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time I have attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt work as I expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to eject. I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up initially you see. Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it off to watch another movie now, would it ? :) Haha true :) Jake Hi all How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I just watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to exit freevo, umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then run freevo again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically (well, apart from the 'insert a new one' part :) ). I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night, but then I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when using supermount ? Jake -- The day Microsoft make something that doesnt suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click
Re: [Freevo-users] freevo can't find python version with installed freevo
Evan, I did not think about that (for some reason), but that sound like a possible solution. Will try that the next time I do an upgrade of that computer. Thanks, -Micael On Thursday 28 July 2005 03.21, Evan Hisey wrote: Micheal- My guess, WHen you did the build world, for whatever reason Freevo did not rebuild agaisnt the new version of python. I had this happen when I upgrade the python on my slackware box, but did not recompile freevo for the new version. Evan On 7/23/05, Micael Beronius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now have downgraded to python 2.3.5 again, and freevo seems fine again. :-) - Micael On Friday 22 July 2005 23.13, Micael Beronius wrote: Oh, sorry. Perhaps that was not too clear. Subject (freevo can't find python version with installed freevo) is what freevo says and then quits. - Micael On Friday 22 July 2005 22.04, John Molohan wrote: Micael Beronius wrote: I did a emerge -u world on my (gentoo) htpc, and now freevo won't start. Has anyone seen this before, or know what it means? pyton gives me; Python 2.4.1 (#1, Jul 21 2005, 21:56:35) [GCC 3.4.4 (Gentoo 3.4.4, ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8)] on linux2 Looking in the log, I used to have 2.3.5 prior to the world update. Is this the problem perhaps, incompatible pyton version? Thanks - Micael What error does freevo give when you start it? --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
Geert- Oops, sorry for the typo. Good point baout teh more and more common automounting setup of the newer Linux distros. I still use Slackware, so had not really thought about that. Evan On 7/28/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This link in the wiki is related to this discussion http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/MovieUsage I believe the point is due to distributions which have automount working by default for the CD/DVD device. In my case I had replace it by submount. So disabling any mounting of the DVD/CD should work fine. At least I'm gonna try that. The only way were submount should be effective: you use the computer for multiple purposes (Desktop). So somewhere in the WIKI there should be a statement to drop automounting systems for dvd/cd in order to avoid possible issues. Or is there a way to disable this default behaviour in freevo? Most linux distributions will include (actually they do) more and more auto mounting systems. BTW Evan: Greet is a christian name for female. My name is Geert. Geert All I know is that if I have a disc mounted then start and stop freevo it is no longer mounted. Freevo must have some internal mounting already built in because when I put in a CD or DVD it automatically mounts it (I don't know if it is officially mounted or if it's just some internal trickery) and when I press the eject button on the drive itself it is unmounted and ejected automatically. I think the real problem that should be addressed is: If this is not working for you without supermount/submount then what is wrong with the freevo configuration you have as it SHOULD work like you want it to WITHOUT external automounting facilities. 2005/7/28, Evan Hisey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greet- I would say, preformance issue are the big thing. Freevo has not need to have any disc's mounted to play and the eject buttons work fine on my drives. As understand it Freevo handles that part in the background. Running a second system to do the same thing, is going ot add alot of undeeded over head with the potential of race or confilcts between the two systems. Lastly it just makes installing freevo that much harder Evan. On 7/27/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan, Could you be more specific? I don't see why you find this a bad idea. Greet- I think using something like submount/supermount is just a bad idea in this case. Freevo handles VCD/CD/DVD just fine without any kind of mounting madness outside of freevo. I added submount to make my freevobox pass the housewife :) test. Normal users will push the eject button. Like they use to do with CD players. They expect the devices behave like this. Intuitive behaviour. Creating a application where the user has to read a phone-book size manual full of exceptions doesn't make much sense to me. Mounted CD's needs to be umounted first before ejecting. Anyway, thnx to submount CD's get ejected using the eject button instead of issuing the eject command from the keyboard/remote control. adding a new CD to the tray gets automagicly detected and applied into freevo. So far I didn't see any problem with it. Perhaps this could raise performance issue with slower processors? Mandriva users using freevo should already have this feature thanks to supermount. Geert Evan On 7/26/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had covered this issue lately in the WIKI. Either you install submount or supermount. The mandrake distribution comes default with supermount http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/TipsAndTricks#head-1d05cdb982531dee65b0f3d20548b880722069ae Submount needs only a additional kernel module and some experiments with parameters in /etc/fstab Supermount needs a patched kernel HTH Geert On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you dont need to mount a dvd to play it. eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote, or . on your keyboard. I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes. Travis. WiSHiE wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you press eject on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD out, and put a new one in. So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use supermount? Because that would be handy :) You do not need to exit freevo. Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time I have attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt work as I expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to eject. I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up initially you see.
Re[3]: [Freevo-users] freevo and netblock
GD I guess to problem is in netblock itself. I try to decide problem in connection of netblock and freevo, but almost don't known python language good. Would you tell me how in s = ioctl (fd, CDROM_DRIVE_STATUS, CDSL_CURRENT) as third parammeter broadcast not constant but address of variable for ioctl can modify it like in C vararg st = CDSL_CURRENT s = ioctl (fd, CDROM_DRIVE_STATUS, st) ? I'm known that is ugly hack. I just whant to try this way and some teach python. ;) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
I've tried it, whitout luck :( I made sure the submount rule in /etc/fstab was uncommented. removed the module from being started. Stopped autofs starting up. Apparantly Fedora Core 4 uses udev and hal. After rebooting I could play a DVD, but could not remove it anymore. So it was mounted. Proof of fact: /etc/fstab # the uncomment rule #/dev/hda /media/cdrecorder subfs fs=cdfss,users,defaults0 0 This rule was automagicly added after reboot /dev/hda/media/cdrecorder1 auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 So the freevo mechanism does not work for me (yet). Probably I need to dig into info about HAL and udev to prevent automounts. On the other hand, usb devices working as one should excpect: painless. I will reenable the subfs system again and start digging into the deeper basics of the automount system. However, in my case it should be cleaner to disable the freevo mount behaviour. Anybody has some toughts? Not that it produces errors or is annoying, but having two systems for the same job is definitly not a good thing. Geert Geert- Oops, sorry for the typo. Good point baout teh more and more common automounting setup of the newer Linux distros. I still use Slackware, so had not really thought about that. Evan On 7/28/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This link in the wiki is related to this discussion http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/MovieUsage I believe the point is due to distributions which have automount working by default for the CD/DVD device. In my case I had replace it by submount. So disabling any mounting of the DVD/CD should work fine. At least I'm gonna try that. The only way were submount should be effective: you use the computer for multiple purposes (Desktop). So somewhere in the WIKI there should be a statement to drop automounting systems for dvd/cd in order to avoid possible issues. Or is there a way to disable this default behaviour in freevo? Most linux distributions will include (actually they do) more and more auto mounting systems. BTW Evan: Greet is a christian name for female. My name is Geert. Geert All I know is that if I have a disc mounted then start and stop freevo it is no longer mounted. Freevo must have some internal mounting already built in because when I put in a CD or DVD it automatically mounts it (I don't know if it is officially mounted or if it's just some internal trickery) and when I press the eject button on the drive itself it is unmounted and ejected automatically. I think the real problem that should be addressed is: If this is not working for you without supermount/submount then what is wrong with the freevo configuration you have as it SHOULD work like you want it to WITHOUT external automounting facilities. 2005/7/28, Evan Hisey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greet- I would say, preformance issue are the big thing. Freevo has not need to have any disc's mounted to play and the eject buttons work fine on my drives. As understand it Freevo handles that part in the background. Running a second system to do the same thing, is going ot add alot of undeeded over head with the potential of race or confilcts between the two systems. Lastly it just makes installing freevo that much harder Evan. On 7/27/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan, Could you be more specific? I don't see why you find this a bad idea. Greet- I think using something like submount/supermount is just a bad idea in this case. Freevo handles VCD/CD/DVD just fine without any kind of mounting madness outside of freevo. I added submount to make my freevobox pass the housewife :) test. Normal users will push the eject button. Like they use to do with CD players. They expect the devices behave like this. Intuitive behaviour. Creating a application where the user has to read a phone-book size manual full of exceptions doesn't make much sense to me. Mounted CD's needs to be umounted first before ejecting. Anyway, thnx to submount CD's get ejected using the eject button instead of issuing the eject command from the keyboard/remote control. adding a new CD to the tray gets automagicly detected and applied into freevo. So far I didn't see any problem with it. Perhaps this could raise performance issue with slower processors? Mandriva users using freevo should already have this feature thanks to supermount. Geert Evan On 7/26/05, Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had covered this issue lately in the WIKI. Either you install submount or supermount. The mandrake distribution comes default with supermount http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/TipsAndTricks#head-1d05cdb982531dee65b0f3d20548b880722069ae Submount needs only a additional kernel module and some experiments with
