Re: [Freevo-users] cover and imdb data

2005-08-17 Thread gislain wautriche

regatta a écrit :


Hi

1. Where does freevo store the imdb data and the amazon covers ?

 

should be in the same directory than the movie (music) itself. Data are 
stored in .fxd files (using xml formating).



2. Another question , how can I make Freevo always search for covers
for all my music and all imdb data for all my Movies and also create a
thumbnail for them automatically ? (I'm thinking about creating a
cronjob for that)

 

Cronjob is the best solution. If you don't understand python, it won't 
be that easy, though.



3. Is there any way I can setup special keys (not a normal key, for
example the Mail/Home/Search keys in the Multimedia keyboards) ?

 


Dunno about that, try to google about multimedia keyboard support in linux.


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Re: [Freevo-users] cover and imdb data

2005-08-17 Thread regatta
Hi

 2. Another question , how can I make Freevo always search for covers
 for all my music and all imdb data for all my Movies and also create a
 thumbnail for them automatically ? (I'm thinking about creating a
 cronjob for that)
 
 
 
 Cronjob is the best solution. If you don't understand python, it won't
 be that easy, though.

Anyone already made it and want to share it with us :) ?


 3. Is there any way I can setup special keys (not a normal key, for
 example the Mail/Home/Search keys in the Multimedia keyboards) ?
 
 
 
 Dunno about that, try to google about multimedia keyboard support in linux.
 

I know that I can configure multimedia keyboard in Linux (I have no
problem on that at all) the question is can I configure FreeVo to
monitor these special keys (for example when I click in the Internet
button  run Firefox for me)

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread gislain wautriche

regatta a écrit :


Hi everyone,

I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was fun, but since I have
more than one option (Thanks to the open source community) I was
thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a war here , PLEASE)

my question is there any Article or a table that compare Freevo and MythTV ?


 

There should be some websites about htpc or mediacenter with cool 
journalists around making nice benchmarks about it, give google a try !
Seriously, if you are willing to setup a linux media center box, you 
should be aware that nothing is really 100% working at first try, you'll 
have to get yourself on it and fix your problems.
Tryed myself and I can tell you Freevo is the easiest solution over 
linux, so if you're already thinking it's not enough, go buy yourself 
some M$ products.
All the problems you posted here are problems people just had before 
you, please be patient.


Gis.


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Re: [Freevo-users] Can we call it a bug ?

2005-08-17 Thread gislain wautriche

regatta a écrit :


Hi

I was trying to read some headline news so I add my local news  RSS 
(from BBC website) and I found out that Freevo will not display my

language correctly because it DOESN'T support UTF-8

I think we need to call this as a bug since UTF-8 is the standard everywhere 

 


try to set the LOCALE variable to 'utf-8' in your /etc/freevo/local_conf.py


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Re: [Freevo-users] cover and imdb data

2005-08-17 Thread gislain wautriche



I know that I can configure multimedia keyboard in Linux (I have no
problem on that at all) the question is can I configure FreeVo to
monitor these special keys (for example when I click in the Internet
button  run Firefox for me)

Thanks
 

Well, then, check the local_conf.py for : EVENTS and add one with the 
correct keybinding.

Also you might need to check the src/events.py file to get more into it.
The files are preatty self explaining.

Gis.


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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Geert Decorte
I have both working. But didn't much play around with Mytthv for now.

Depending the default user I choose during startup either freevo or mythtv
launches.

A few differences

- Freevo's screen layout looks better to me, specific since I'm using the
mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page of the WIKI.
(I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)

- Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should expect some of these
features to appear in a next release of freevo (picture in picture...)

- Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a mysql database to register
settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge of mysql, you need to
jump trough hoops to make it work decent. Specific for countries which
aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
- Both are mainly using the same tools


So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a better layout, looks better
and has better documentation. Surely somebody else will not agree.
But this is a personal opinion without flaming.

 Hi everyone,

 I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was fun, but since I have
 more than one option (Thanks to the open source community) I was
 thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a war here , PLEASE)

 my question is there any Article or a table that compare Freevo and MythTV
 ?


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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Karl Lattimer
I tried out myth once, and my experiences were as follows.

- Myth's implementation of LIRC is total Scottish pants, using irxevent
instead of lirc proper. OK, I pressed the button, nothing happened,
waited a few seconds, pressed it again, FCS IT DID IT TWICE!!

- The Myth interface is confusing, Do I press right to go to the next
one in the lower right or do I press down?

- The inbuilt configuration interface was impressive in some ways.
However mysql is a beast and not really suitable for a set top box
running on a 400Mhz arm chip. So freevo is definitely the way to go for
the STB.

- Myth has tv timeshifting, and picture in picture, we should be getting
to this fairly soon in freevo thanks to the great work the developers
are doing.

- Freevo lacks and inbuilt configuration interface, however it shouldn't
be too difficult to write one, and that is something I'd like to spend
time on as soon as I've learned python (which I keep putting off)

- Freevo could do with an on screen arrow key keyboard for renaming
files and searching tv guides. I don't even think myth does that, but
its something that would be cool.

- Myth is built on QT and is compiled from source, even though its a
binary application it still feels much slower than python/freevo,
especially on remote control.

- Requirements for myth include QT and many more libraries than freevo,
QT is fairly large and if you're looking to put it on a small 2Gb hard
drive you'd have little space left over for movies/music/pictures etc...

- The themes are gayer than Brighton/San Fransisco.

- Myth sucks
- Freevo rocks
- Vive la freevo wh00p!

On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 11:49 +0200, Geert Decorte wrote:
 I have both working. But didn't much play around with Mytthv for now.
 
 Depending the default user I choose during startup either freevo or mythtv
 launches.
 
 A few differences
 
 - Freevo's screen layout looks better to me, specific since I'm using the
 mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page of the WIKI.
 (I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)
 
 - Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should expect some of these
 features to appear in a next release of freevo (picture in picture...)
 
 - Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a mysql database to register
 settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge of mysql, you need to
 jump trough hoops to make it work decent. Specific for countries which
 aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
 - Both are mainly using the same tools
 
 
 So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a better layout, looks better
 and has better documentation. Surely somebody else will not agree.
 But this is a personal opinion without flaming.
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was fun, but since I have
  more than one option (Thanks to the open source community) I was
  thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a war here , PLEASE)
 
  my question is there any Article or a table that compare Freevo and MythTV
  ?
 
 
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Andrej van der Zee
Hi,

Where did you find that mediaporal theme for Freevo? I
have been looking for new skin for ages but couldn't
find it. Also nothing on the Wiki pages!

By the way, the only reason for choosing MythTV is
when you want to distribute your backends and
frontends over more than one machine, because Freevo
does does not support this currently (no use to me
anyway). Freevo looks much better than MythTV.

Greets,

Andrej



--- Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have both working. But didn't much play around
 with Mytthv for now.
 
 Depending the default user I choose during startup
 either freevo or mythtv
 launches.
 
 A few differences
 
 - Freevo's screen layout looks better to me,
 specific since I'm using the
 mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page of
 the WIKI.
 (I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)
 
 - Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should
 expect some of these
 features to appear in a next release of freevo
 (picture in picture...)
 
 - Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a mysql
 database to register
 settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge of
 mysql, you need to
 jump trough hoops to make it work decent. Specific
 for countries which
 aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
 - Both are mainly using the same tools
 
 
 So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a better
 layout, looks better
 and has better documentation. Surely somebody else
 will not agree.
 But this is a personal opinion without flaming.
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was
 fun, but since I have
  more than one option (Thanks to the open source
 community) I was
  thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a
 war here , PLEASE)
 
  my question is there any Article or a table that
 compare Freevo and MythTV
  ?
 
 
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread regatta
Thank you all for your feedback

I didn't send this mail because I don't like freevo , but I like to
check all my options :)

Anyway from reading your feedback and other website I think here is
what I think about the two programs :

Freevo:
1. Simple Interface (GOOD)
2. Very nice with slow PCs (GOOD)
3. Simple to install if you compare it to MythTV (Good)
4. No much themes available (BAD)
5. Not very will documented , you need to search the net for every
step even if you expet in Linux, you have to search for every
information , sorry this is what I think, please don't talk about
wiki, it's has very small basic data (BAD)
6. Not easy to setup or add settings (you have to modify local_conf.py by hand)

MythTV:
1. Can cut the Ads from recorded programs (GOOD)
2. You can use Picture on Picture (GOOD)
3. Slide Show built-in (GOOD)
4. Very will documented , check
http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall (GOOD)
5. It use the slowness libraries in the world !!, QT and not GPL (BAD)
6. Also use MySQL and no other option like db file (BAD)
7. not good for slow PC since it will use QT and MYSQL (BAD)


Thank you all again

On 8/17/05, Andrej van der Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Where did you find that mediaporal theme for Freevo? I
 have been looking for new skin for ages but couldn't
 find it. Also nothing on the Wiki pages!
 
 By the way, the only reason for choosing MythTV is
 when you want to distribute your backends and
 frontends over more than one machine, because Freevo
 does does not support this currently (no use to me
 anyway). Freevo looks much better than MythTV.
 
 Greets,
 
 Andrej
 
 
 
 --- Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have both working. But didn't much play around
  with Mytthv for now.
 
  Depending the default user I choose during startup
  either freevo or mythtv
  launches.
 
  A few differences
 
  - Freevo's screen layout looks better to me,
  specific since I'm using the
  mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page of
  the WIKI.
  (I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)
 
  - Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should
  expect some of these
  features to appear in a next release of freevo
  (picture in picture...)
 
  - Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a mysql
  database to register
  settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge of
  mysql, you need to
  jump trough hoops to make it work decent. Specific
  for countries which
  aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
  - Both are mainly using the same tools
 
 
  So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a better
  layout, looks better
  and has better documentation. Surely somebody else
  will not agree.
  But this is a personal opinion without flaming.
 
   Hi everyone,
  
   I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was
  fun, but since I have
   more than one option (Thanks to the open source
  community) I was
   thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a
  war here , PLEASE)
  
   my question is there any Article or a table that
  compare Freevo and MythTV
   ?
  
  
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  the wrong problem -*-
  
  
  
 
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Geert Decorte
http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/LinkPage
 Point 1 section 2
http://freevo.sr-club.de/

Finaly http://freevo.sr-club.de/downloads.php

You have to install it like the other themes
http://freevo.sr-club.de/jump.php?url=../downloads/freevo-mediaportal-theme-0.1.tgz

There is a additional theme for the weather icons.

HTH


 Hi,

 Where did you find that mediaporal theme for Freevo? I
 have been looking for new skin for ages but couldn't
 find it. Also nothing on the Wiki pages!

 By the way, the only reason for choosing MythTV is
 when you want to distribute your backends and
 frontends over more than one machine, because Freevo
 does does not support this currently (no use to me
 anyway). Freevo looks much better than MythTV.

 Greets,

 Andrej



 --- Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have both working. But didn't much play around
 with Mytthv for now.

 Depending the default user I choose during startup
 either freevo or mythtv
 launches.

 A few differences

 - Freevo's screen layout looks better to me,
 specific since I'm using the
 mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page of
 the WIKI.
 (I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)

 - Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should
 expect some of these
 features to appear in a next release of freevo
 (picture in picture...)

 - Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a mysql
 database to register
 settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge of
 mysql, you need to
 jump trough hoops to make it work decent. Specific
 for countries which
 aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
 - Both are mainly using the same tools


 So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a better
 layout, looks better
 and has better documentation. Surely somebody else
 will not agree.
 But this is a personal opinion without flaming.

  Hi everyone,
 
  I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was
 fun, but since I have
  more than one option (Thanks to the open source
 community) I was
  thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a
 war here , PLEASE)
 
  my question is there any Article or a table that
 compare Freevo and MythTV
  ?
 
 
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Geert Decorte
Not going to argue here, but I know mythtv is not well documented. at
least not to a basic technical level when you have to tweak/adjust
configurations. Just had to google a lot (a week, and I'm experienced
linux user) to make tv working for the frequencies apropriate to my
country. Generaly spoken, if you live in the U.S. or another supported
country, you install without tweaking. I remember the setup in freevo was
easier on this particular part. The user level doc is good.
So it depends of a point of view and which type of docs you're looking at.
So probably for you installing mytthv might be a peace of cake due to
having a supported country.





 Thank you all for your feedback

 I didn't send this mail because I don't like freevo , but I like to
 check all my options :)

 Anyway from reading your feedback and other website I think here is
 what I think about the two programs :

 Freevo:
 1. Simple Interface (GOOD)
 2. Very nice with slow PCs (GOOD)
 3. Simple to install if you compare it to MythTV (Good)
 4. No much themes available (BAD)
 5. Not very will documented , you need to search the net for every
 step even if you expet in Linux, you have to search for every
 information , sorry this is what I think, please don't talk about
 wiki, it's has very small basic data (BAD)
 6. Not easy to setup or add settings (you have to modify local_conf.py by
 hand)

 MythTV:
 1. Can cut the Ads from recorded programs (GOOD)
 2. You can use Picture on Picture (GOOD)
 3. Slide Show built-in (GOOD)
 4. Very will documented , check
 http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall (GOOD)
 5. It use the slowness libraries in the world !!, QT and not GPL (BAD)
 6. Also use MySQL and no other option like db file (BAD)
 7. not good for slow PC since it will use QT and MYSQL (BAD)


 Thank you all again

 On 8/17/05, Andrej van der Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Where did you find that mediaporal theme for Freevo? I
 have been looking for new skin for ages but couldn't
 find it. Also nothing on the Wiki pages!

 By the way, the only reason for choosing MythTV is
 when you want to distribute your backends and
 frontends over more than one machine, because Freevo
 does does not support this currently (no use to me
 anyway). Freevo looks much better than MythTV.

 Greets,

 Andrej



 --- Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have both working. But didn't much play around
  with Mytthv for now.
 
  Depending the default user I choose during startup
  either freevo or mythtv
  launches.
 
  A few differences
 
  - Freevo's screen layout looks better to me,
  specific since I'm using the
  mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page of
  the WIKI.
  (I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)
 
  - Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should
  expect some of these
  features to appear in a next release of freevo
  (picture in picture...)
 
  - Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a mysql
  database to register
  settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge of
  mysql, you need to
  jump trough hoops to make it work decent. Specific
  for countries which
  aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
  - Both are mainly using the same tools
 
 
  So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a better
  layout, looks better
  and has better documentation. Surely somebody else
  will not agree.
  But this is a personal opinion without flaming.
 
   Hi everyone,
  
   I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it was
  fun, but since I have
   more than one option (Thanks to the open source
  community) I was
   thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a
  war here , PLEASE)
  
   my question is there any Article or a table that
  compare Freevo and MythTV
   ?
  
  
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Andrej van der Zee
Thanks! Looks better now. Found a lot of other fun
stuff too. 

Cheers!

Andrej

--- Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/LinkPage
  Point 1 section 2
 http://freevo.sr-club.de/
 
 Finaly http://freevo.sr-club.de/downloads.php
 
 You have to install it like the other themes

http://freevo.sr-club.de/jump.php?url=../downloads/freevo-mediaportal-theme-0.1.tgz
 
 There is a additional theme for the weather icons.
 
 HTH
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Where did you find that mediaporal theme for
 Freevo? I
  have been looking for new skin for ages but
 couldn't
  find it. Also nothing on the Wiki pages!
 
  By the way, the only reason for choosing MythTV is
  when you want to distribute your backends and
  frontends over more than one machine, because
 Freevo
  does does not support this currently (no use to me
  anyway). Freevo looks much better than MythTV.
 
  Greets,
 
  Andrej
 
 
 
  --- Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have both working. But didn't much play around
  with Mytthv for now.
 
  Depending the default user I choose during
 startup
  either freevo or mythtv
  launches.
 
  A few differences
 
  - Freevo's screen layout looks better to me,
  specific since I'm using the
  mediaportal theme you'll find in the links page
 of
  the WIKI.
  (I don't like the themes supported in Mythtv...)
 
  - Mythtv looks more feature complete. You should
  expect some of these
  features to appear in a next release of freevo
  (picture in picture...)
 
  - Freevo is better documented. Mythtv uses a
 mysql
  database to register
  settings. If you're not have a excelent knowledge
 of
  mysql, you need to
  jump trough hoops to make it work decent.
 Specific
  for countries which
  aren't supported by standard install (xmltv).
  - Both are mainly using the same tools
 
 
  So mainly, my personal opinion: Freevo has a
 better
  layout, looks better
  and has better documentation. Surely somebody
 else
  will not agree.
  But this is a personal opinion without flaming.
 
   Hi everyone,
  
   I just installed Freevo before 2 days and it
 was
  fun, but since I have
   more than one option (Thanks to the open source
  community) I was
   thinking about MythTV, (I don't want to start a
  war here , PLEASE)
  
   my question is there any Article or a table
 that
  compare Freevo and MythTV
   ?
  
  
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 have
  the wrong problem -*-
  
  
  
 
 

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Richard van Paasen
Citeren regatta [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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| MythTV:
| 7. not good for slow PC since it will use QT and MYSQL (BAD)

Not entirely correct: Freevo's TV section is not that fast either. Proper use of
MySQL (o.a. indexed tables and smart queries) can result in a faster response
than  just parsing flat (xml) files. Though I'd rather seen that postgreSQl was
supported too.

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[Freevo-users] weather plugin hangs for non-root users

2005-08-17 Thread Andrej van der Zee
Hi,

I installed freevo 1.5.3 with apt-get on my Debian
system and I am quite happy with it. Only one problem,
when I try to use the weather plugin as a non-root
user everything works fine untill I want to update the
weather. I sais Fetching weather for  ... and
returns to the weather screen but freezes afterwards.
Even doing a kill -9 has no affect. Funny thing is, if
I do everything as root it works fine. Anybody?

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo and MythTV

2005-08-17 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 11:05, Karl Lattimer wrote:
 I tried out myth once, and my experiences were as follows.

 - Myth's implementation of LIRC is total Scottish pants, using irxevent
 instead of lirc proper

native lirc was added to myth on the 4th august

4th august 2003, that is
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