Re: [Freevo-users] New Document
I've got it :) Here is the direct link, but may be you have to register. Let me know if you can get it http://www.netpassion.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15.0;attach=8 From: Geert Decorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] New Document Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:13:56 +0200 (CEST) I've tried to look for the doc, but my Italian is unsufficient for navigating you're website. Any more direct links? BTW Ultimo Urlo - Inviato da: Luke - Sabato, 13 Mag 2006 17:18 Believe Sabato = Saterday ??? Wrong clock settings? Ciao This post is just to inform you that at this adreess www.netpassion.eu i posted the alpha version of 'what i call' the Final Freevo setup and User Book I need some people to read and test it, and give me some feedback or modification. The doc is in RTF format and, for now, only in Italian _ Cerchi una trattoria a Motta Baluffi? Prova con Local Search. http://search.msn.it/local/results.aspx?q=trattoriaw=motta+baluffi --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. http://gedeco.no-ip.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users _ Mondiali 2006. Scarica subito il pacchetto gratuito! http://mondiali.it.msn.com/ --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. http://gedeco.no-ip.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
For those who aren't aware and are using nvidia cards with TV-output the new nvidia drivers see one incredible improvement (as I've just discovered). The drivers are now capable of outputting a 1024x768 signal on TV, this has been a limitation of the drivers for some time and now we can enjoy high resolution freevo! I have one episode of lost which is encoded in 1080i and even without a HD output device this looks incredible! Also using tvtime with the deinterlacers at max (~900 lines) looks far superior even over composite! I'm happy, I thought I'd let everyone know about this it just makes it a little better all round. I can't wait for fv2 now, but with the lack of tvtime in fv2 the tv quality will probably be a bit lower ;( (maybe dischi has a retort about that, I hope he can prove me wrong) K, A wiki note has been added for this. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
how can a standard TV (CRT) display a resolution as high as 1024x768? i always thought 800x600 was the hardware limit. oh, and is the improvement also available for the legacy drivers? On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 00:43 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote: For those who aren't aware and are using nvidia cards with TV-output the new nvidia drivers see one incredible improvement (as I've just discovered). The drivers are now capable of outputting a 1024x768 signal on TV, this has been a limitation of the drivers for some time and now we can enjoy high resolution freevo! I have one episode of lost which is encoded in 1080i and even without a HD output device this looks incredible! Also using tvtime with the deinterlacers at max (~900 lines) looks far superior even over composite! I'm happy, I thought I'd let everyone know about this it just makes it a little better all round. I can't wait for fv2 now, but with the lack of tvtime in fv2 the tv quality will probably be a bit lower ;( (maybe dischi has a retort about that, I hope he can prove me wrong) K, A wiki note has been added for this. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 02:47 +0200, Bastian Farkas wrote: how can a standard TV (CRT) display a resolution as high as 1024x768? i always thought 800x600 was the hardware limit. oh, and is the improvement also available for the legacy drivers? Well the TV itself isn't _really_ capable of it, but if you've ever used a nvidia card in windows and have a fairly recent TV you'll see it does a cracking job of getting a high quality picture out on a standard idiot box. My TV has 712 lines (if i remember right which i probably don't ;) as its SVHS, I could be wrong but it looks wicked eitherway! legacy how? I have a geforce mx4400 in my freevo, I don't know about older cards although I expect anything that can do this in windows will also be able to do it in linux now. K, On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 00:43 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote: For those who aren't aware and are using nvidia cards with TV-output the new nvidia drivers see one incredible improvement (as I've just discovered). The drivers are now capable of outputting a 1024x768 signal on TV, this has been a limitation of the drivers for some time and now we can enjoy high resolution freevo! I have one episode of lost which is encoded in 1080i and even without a HD output device this looks incredible! Also using tvtime with the deinterlacers at max (~900 lines) looks far superior even over composite! I'm happy, I thought I'd let everyone know about this it just makes it a little better all round. I can't wait for fv2 now, but with the lack of tvtime in fv2 the tv quality will probably be a bit lower ;( (maybe dischi has a retort about that, I hope he can prove me wrong) K, A wiki note has been added for this. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 00:43 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote: The drivers are now capable of outputting a 1024x768 signal on TV, this has been a limitation of the drivers for some time and now we can enjoy high resolution freevo! I don't grok how this can possibly provide superior output to running the card at the TV's native vertical resolution and using software scaling (in mplayer, say). I'm happy, I thought I'd let everyone know about this it just makes it a little better all round. I can't wait for fv2 now, but with the lack of tvtime in fv2 the tv quality will probably be a bit lower ;( (maybe dischi has a retort about that, I hope he can prove me wrong) It will support xine, which has tvtime's deinterlacers (including GreedyH and TomsMoComp). Cheers, Jason. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 01:53 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote: box. My TV has 712 lines (if i remember right which i probably don't ;) as its SVHS, I could be wrong but it looks wicked eitherway! 712 lines? That doesn't sound right. :) If you've a hdtv then it's either 720 or 1080 lines, I suppose. PAL would be 576 lines and NTSC 480 lines. Cheers, Jason. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
I don't grok how this can possibly provide superior output to running the card at the TV's native vertical resolution and using software scaling (in mplayer, say). Try it! There is a noticeable difference . It will support xine, which has tvtime's deinterlacers (including GreedyH and TomsMoComp). Cheers for that ;) Now i'm happier ;)) K, --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
I have been doing this for a couple years with the nVidia drivers. This is not a new feature. Thats why I was complaining that the CVS version was stuck at 800x600 forever. People are correct that the TVs physical limit is less than this, but the difference between 800x600 and 1024x768 is very noticeable, especially when working with high quality video. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 18:24 -0700, Ryan Roth wrote: I have been doing this for a couple years with the nVidia drivers. This is not a new feature. Thats why I was complaining that the CVS version was stuck at 800x600 forever. People are correct that the TVs physical limit is less than this, but the difference between 800x600 and 1024x768 is very noticeable, especially when working with high quality video. I could believe that because of some implementation detail of hardware scaling (which is not very high quality, at least in my GF440MMX -- it's about the same quality as my settop DVD player) it ends up looking better when the card is run at 1024x768. (Possibly there are separate paths for video overlay scaling and scaling for tv-output, and the latter is better quality.) But I simply can't fathom why that would yield better quality than running a card at 640x480 (on NTSC) and using software scaling (bicubic interpolation or possibly lanczos). In fact if anyone claims otherwise I'll simply refuse to believe it until I get a good explanation. :) Jason. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
The proof is in the pudding, and it is without a doubt better looking, give it a try if you can, you will see a difference. I rip all my DVDs at their native resolution and the difference is enough that I have gone out of my way to make sure that all my freevo boxes run no less then 1024x768. Anyone who has a card capable of 1024x768 should really try it. also, Heres a link to the PDF for the original nVidia Linux driver from 2001, it shows 1024x768 as an options for TV out back then. http://www.nvidia.com/object/LO_20010904_7262.html --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
In fact if anyone claims otherwise I'll simply refuse to believe it until I get a good explanation. :) You must have faith my child. ;) It _IS_ better quality, possibly because nvidia have done some good work on stabilising the video at that resolution, now I'm not saying I can read ordinary text at that resolution, but its bloody good quality. I don't think its simply a question of the pixel clarity of a TV, remember that the TV tube is analogue control, therefore it is possible that their is some subpixel hinting applied by the cram,ram,packed composite signal. I'd liken that effect to using a sharpen filter in an image editor after scaling up a picture. K, --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 18:46 -0700, Ryan Roth wrote: The proof is in the pudding, and it is without a doubt better looking, give it a try if you can, you will see a difference. Ok, I gave it a try, and I see no improvement with 'mplayer dvd:// -fs' at 1024x768 over 'mplayer dvd:// -vf scale=640:-2 -fs' at 640x480. I looked very carefully and at several different types of scenes. I also compared a PAL DVD rip which is 560 lines. It simply makes sense that I wouldn't see an improvement. The limitation here is my television. It only has about 480 lines of visible resolution. In fact, I saw that the former has the same crappy scaling quality (moire patterns) which is not present with mplayer's bicubic scaling. I rip all my DVDs at their native resolution Me too. Ripping a DVD at a lower resolution is a unforgivable sin. Almost as much as transcoding AC3 5.1 to mp3. Heres a link to the PDF for the original nVidia Linux driver from 2001, it shows 1024x768 as an options for TV out back then. Well, ok, but I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove. :) Jason. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
It simply makes sense that I wouldn't see an improvement. The limitation here is my television. It only has about 480 lines of visible resolution. Maybe your TV/video card is really crappy? I've got a reasonably new phillips and there is a noticeable difference for me. BTW, after checking my wiring I'm using an SVHS not composite for the FV-TV. K, --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
I have a 36 Sony Wega, mabey he has a 13 TV :) --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 19:28 -0700, Ryan Roth wrote: I have a 36 Sony Wega, mabey he has a 13 TV :) I have a 52 RCA rear projection. Yes, I'm compensating. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] nvidia driver improvements!
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 19:28 -0700, Ryan Roth wrote: I have a 36 Sony Wega, mabey he has a 13 TV :) Comeon tack, own up are you using a 3.5 casio handheld TV with an RF modulator to convert the composite signal? K, /me thinks that Tacks TV is gonna keep getting smaller until it is ludicrously humiliating for him. Anyone seen Brazil - Terry Gilliam? You know where they use Fresnel lenses to magnify their horribly small monitors. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
