Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS
Hello, In a near future will ve deadly easy to do that...just wait 2.6 kernel to be out. In it you'll have software suspend, so you can suspend your linux to SWAP and when you reboot it you don't need to go the reboot process again! neither reload freevo... BTW, you will be able to shutdown your machine when freevo is playing music and then restart it and it will continues to play! That's what do you want, right? It will be something like Palmtops, you will have the option for a soft reset and a hard reset: The soft is the explained above, the hard is the normal reset... you will need to wait linux and freevo to start... There is software suspend in 2.4, but it's experimental and you need patches and some effort to have it working, but if you really want that... feel free to submit a script to automate things :) About the Graphical boot, take a look on Gentoo Games CD, it shows a picture while booting, if you want the text, just go ALT-F2 :) Gustavo --- Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Thanks guys, I will look at Freevix. However I was hoping that some > of the > folks here might be able to suggest an intergrated solution? As it > stands I > have encounterd a number of 'bolt on' solutions (that is a OS wich > has > Freevo bolted on top of it). I have yet to see a solution where > Freevo (or > similar) is actually desgined and physically intergrated with the OS > to > behave as a windows manager in its own right. That is what I would > like to > see. I know it doesn't exist, but all the same... I thought it was > worth > brining the subject up. > > Why not release a Freevixo version where you guys actually work > together to > bring about this so far seemily unatainable goal? A trully > intergrated HTPC > solution seems like a highly logical step. > > (Admittedly some people might still want to use a bolt on solution, > but > hopefully it isn't inconcieveable that both camps could be catered > for). > Personally, if I build a HTPC, that is all I want it to be - a HTPC > and > nothing else. (The ability to store additional programs on a harddisk > rather > than just on the flash device itself would still nonetheless be a > very > useful functionality). > > Q > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Rob Shortt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS > > > > > > The Freevo binary .tar.gz releases contain ~95% of the > dependencies, the > > rest being your distrobution and maybe X if you need it for tv-out. > You > > should be able to install any linux distribution you want with > minimal > > packages and have it work just fine. If you build your own runtime > (ie: > > dynamicly linked instead of static binaries) that will save you > some > > disk space if you need. > > > > I think Freevix does use a smaller C library which its apps are > built > > upon so that may save you some room if you take that route. > > > > -Rob > > > > Q wrote: > > > Can you possibly release a version Freevo specifically designed > and > > > built for use with damn small Linux? > > > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ I am desperate to see a HTPC > system that > > > will fit on a small Linux distro that can be installed on a > > > 128MB/256MB/512MB/1Gig USB 2.0 key or another flash device and > act as a > > > dedicated HTPC system. Really I dont need a desktop as such > (although > > > having the option of basic X functionality with acceleration for > gaming > > > would be nice). I'm trying to build a dedicated HTPC system, > which means > > > I don't really want/need a huge Linux distro to do it. All I want > is a > nice > > > graphical boot, and as soon as the OS has booted (which should > take zero > > > time for a USB 2.0 key or other flash device) I want to be able > to boot > > > directly into Freevo, with no intervention from me and no > indication of > the > > > underlying OS. (No scrolling text, or confusing commands to enter > etc). > > > All I want is to use an IR remote again perhaps via a USB IR hub > to > > > control everything. In other words, no need for a keyboard unless > > > something breaks). > > > Damn small Linux seems like an ideal base for something like > that. > > > > > > I am not totally hung on the idea of installing a Freevo > > > OS/distribution on a flash memory card/usb device either. What I > am > > > aiming for, what I would love to see is a
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS
Lol iI don't know what's going on with this crazy list, but mails are comming to me and overlapping each other... :) Never mind. Anyway its funny you should mention software suspend, as this seems like an ideal solution for freevo/freevix. Pretty much with this facility enabled you can switch your HTPC system on and off just like any other professional quality consumer electronics product. It will be a cool thing indeed! :) Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hello,In a near future will ve deadly easy to do that...just wait 2.6 kernelto be out.In it you'll have software suspend, so you can suspend your linux toSWAP and when you reboot it you don't need to go the reboot processagain! neither reload freevo... BTW, you will be able to shutdown yourmachine when freevo is playing music and then restart it and it willcontinues to play! That's what do you want, right?It will be something like Palmtops, you will have the option for a softreset and a hard reset: The soft is the explained above, the hard isthe normal reset... you will need to wait linux and freevo to start...There is software suspend in 2.4, but it's experimental and you needpatches and some effort to have it working, but if you really wantthat... feel free to submit a script to automate things :) About the Graphical boot, take a look on Gentoo Games CD, it shows apicture while booting, if you want the text, just go ALT-F2 :)Gustavo --- Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Thanks guys, Iwill look at Freevix. However I was hoping that someof thefolks here might be able to suggest an intergrated solution? As itstands Ihave encounterd a number of 'bolt on' solutions (that is a OS wichhasFreevo bolted on top of it). I have yet to see a solution whereFreevo (orsimilar) is actually desgined and physically intergrated with the OStobehave as a windows manager in its own right. That is what I wouldlike tosee. I know it doesn't exist, but all the same... I thought it wasworthbrining the subject up.Why not release a Freevixo version where you guys actually worktogether tobring about this so far seemily unatainable goal? A trullyintergrated HTPCsolution seems like a highly logical step.(Admittedly some people might still want to use a bolt on solution,buthopefully it isn't inconcieveable that both camps could be cateredfor).Personally, if I build a HTPC, that is all I want it to be - a HTPCandnothing else. (The ability to store additional programs on a harddiskratherthan just on the flash device itself would still nonetheless be averyuseful functionality).Q- Original Message - From: "Rob Shortt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:14 PMSubject: Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OSThe Freevo binary .tar.gz releases contain ~95% of thedependencies, therest being your distrobution and maybe X if you need it for tv-out. Youshould be able to install any linux distribution you want withminimalpackages and have it work just fine. If you build your own runtime(ie:dynamicly linked instead of static binaries) that will save yousomedisk space if you need.I think Freevix does use a smaller C library which its apps arebuiltupon so that may save you some room if you take that route.-RobQ wrote:Can you possibly release a version Freevo specifically designedandbuilt for use with damn small Linux?http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ I am desperate to see a HTPCsystem thatwill fit on a small Linux distro that can be installed on a128MB/256MB/512MB/1Gig USB 2.0 key or another flash device andact as adedicated HTPC system. Really I dont need a desktop as such(althoughhaving the option of basic X functionality with acceleration forgamingwould be nice). I'm trying to build a dedicated HTPC system,which meansI don't really want/need a huge Linux distro to do it. All I wantis anicegraphical boot, and as soon as the OS has booted (which shouldtake zerotime for a USB 2.0 key or other flash device) I want to be ableto bootdirectly into Freevo, with no intervention from me and noindication oftheunderlying OS. (No scrolling text, or confusing commands to enteretc).All I want is to use an IR remote again perhaps via a USB IR hubtocontrol everything. In other words, no need for a keyboard unlesssomething breaks).Damn small Linux seems like an ideal base for something likethat.I am not totally hung on the idea of installing a FreevoOS/distribution on a flash memory card/usb device either. What Iamaiming for, what I would love to see is a persistant OS that moreorless worked like my DVD player. After all, it takes virtually notime toboot a dvd player. I only wish to see the same happen with myFreevoHTPC system.Please advise. What is your view on this?Q---This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sitesincludingData Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now.Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET.http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/di
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS
Thanks guys, I will look at Freevix. However I was hoping that some of the folks here might be able to suggest an intergrated solution? As it stands I have encounterd a number of 'bolt on' solutions (that is a OS wich has Freevo bolted on top of it). I have yet to see a solution where Freevo (or similar) is actually desgined and physically intergrated with the OS to behave as a windows manager in its own right. That is what I would like to see. I know it doesn't exist, but all the same... I thought it was worth brining the subject up. Why not release a Freevixo version where you guys actually work together to bring about this so far seemily unatainable goal? A trully intergrated HTPC solution seems like a highly logical step. (Admittedly some people might still want to use a bolt on solution, but hopefully it isn't inconcieveable that both camps could be catered for). Personally, if I build a HTPC, that is all I want it to be - a HTPC and nothing else. (The ability to store additional programs on a harddisk rather than just on the flash device itself would still nonetheless be a very useful functionality). Q - Original Message - From: "Rob Shortt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS > > The Freevo binary .tar.gz releases contain ~95% of the dependencies, the > rest being your distrobution and maybe X if you need it for tv-out. You > should be able to install any linux distribution you want with minimal > packages and have it work just fine. If you build your own runtime (ie: > dynamicly linked instead of static binaries) that will save you some > disk space if you need. > > I think Freevix does use a smaller C library which its apps are built > upon so that may save you some room if you take that route. > > -Rob > > Q wrote: > > Can you possibly release a version Freevo specifically designed and > > built for use with damn small Linux? > > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ I am desperate to see a HTPC system that > > will fit on a small Linux distro that can be installed on a > > 128MB/256MB/512MB/1Gig USB 2.0 key or another flash device and act as a > > dedicated HTPC system. Really I dont need a desktop as such (although > > having the option of basic X functionality with acceleration for gaming > > would be nice). I'm trying to build a dedicated HTPC system, which means > > I don't really want/need a huge Linux distro to do it. All I want is a nice > > graphical boot, and as soon as the OS has booted (which should take zero > > time for a USB 2.0 key or other flash device) I want to be able to boot > > directly into Freevo, with no intervention from me and no indication of the > > underlying OS. (No scrolling text, or confusing commands to enter etc). > > All I want is to use an IR remote again perhaps via a USB IR hub to > > control everything. In other words, no need for a keyboard unless > > something breaks). > > Damn small Linux seems like an ideal base for something like that. > > > > I am not totally hung on the idea of installing a Freevo > > OS/distribution on a flash memory card/usb device either. What I am > > aiming for, what I would love to see is a persistant OS that more or > > less worked like my DVD player. After all, it takes virtually no time to > > boot a dvd player. I only wish to see the same happen with my Freevo > > HTPC system. > > > > Please advise. What is your view on this? > > > > Q > > > > --- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > ___ > Freevo-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users > --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS
The Freevo binary .tar.gz releases contain ~95% of the dependencies, the rest being your distrobution and maybe X if you need it for tv-out. You should be able to install any linux distribution you want with minimal packages and have it work just fine. If you build your own runtime (ie: dynamicly linked instead of static binaries) that will save you some disk space if you need. I think Freevix does use a smaller C library which its apps are built upon so that may save you some room if you take that route. -Rob Q wrote: Can you possibly release a version Freevo specifically designed and built for use with damn small Linux? http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ I am desperate to see a HTPC system that will fit on a small Linux distro that can be installed on a 128MB/256MB/512MB/1Gig USB 2.0 key or another flash device and act as a dedicated HTPC system. Really I dont need a desktop as such (although having the option of basic X functionality with acceleration for gaming would be nice). I'm trying to build a dedicated HTPC system, which means I don't really want/need a huge Linux distro to do it. All I want is a nice graphical boot, and as soon as the OS has booted (which should take zero time for a USB 2.0 key or other flash device) I want to be able to boot directly into Freevo, with no intervention from me and no indication of the underlying OS. (No scrolling text, or confusing commands to enter etc). All I want is to use an IR remote again perhaps via a USB IR hub to control everything. In other words, no need for a keyboard unless something breaks). Damn small Linux seems like an ideal base for something like that. I am not totally hung on the idea of installing a Freevo OS/distribution on a flash memory card/usb device either. What I am aiming for, what I would love to see is a persistant OS that more or less worked like my DVD player. After all, it takes virtually no time to boot a dvd player. I only wish to see the same happen with my Freevo HTPC system. Please advise. What is your view on this? Q --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS
Hi, Have you seen Freevix: http://www.freevix.org This would be a good starting point, there is also Freepia for the VIA EPIA systems. Cheers Kev --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Freevo as a persistant OS
Can you possibly release a version Freevo specifically designed and built for use with damn small Linux? http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ I am desperate to see a HTPC system that will fit on a small Linux distro that can be installed on a 128MB/256MB/512MB/1Gig USB 2.0 key or another flash device and act as a dedicated HTPC system. Really I dont need a desktop as such (although having the option of basic X functionality with acceleration for gaming would be nice). I'm trying to build a dedicated HTPC system, which means I don't really want/need a huge Linux distro to do it. All I want is a nicegraphical boot, and as soon as the OS has booted (which should take zero time for a USB 2.0 key or other flash device) I want to be able to boot directly into Freevo, with no intervention from me and no indication of theunderlying OS. (No scrolling text, or confusing commands to enter etc). All I want is to use an IR remote again perhaps via a USB IR hub to control everything. In other words, no need for a keyboard unless something breaks).Damn small Linux seems like an ideal base for something like that.I am not totally hung on the idea of installing a Freevo OS/distribution on a flash memory card/usb device either. What I am aiming for, what I would love to see is a persistant OS that more or less worked like my DVD player. After all, it takes virtually no time to boot a dvd player. I only wish to see the same happen with my Freevo HTPC system.Please advise. What is your view on this?Q
