Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo vs XBMC vs Boxee
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 13:51 +0900, Alan wrote: > My HTPC usage is similar to yours, I don't have a tv tuner, I use it > for movies and tv shows, music and occasionally gaming. > A long time ago I was using MMS (My Media System) but then I moved to Freevo. > > MMS has some advantages over Freevo, namely the ability to create > playlists through the interface, and then even save them. Its also way > more stable and doesn't have the plethora of bugs that Freevo has. > The CPU usage is way lower, probably because it is coded in C++. The > user interface is well designed and easy to use. > > On the downside, MMS is not so configurable nor themeable, less > extensible (Freevo has a big number of plugins, although many don't > work), and there hasn't been any release since 2009, which makes me > think that its either very mature or it dying. > Interesting I've been using freevo for several years and haven't found that many bugs... If you do find bugs please report them otherwise there is no way we can fix them! I would add that although there has been no official release in a while there has been lots of work on svn and a beta before Christmas and another in a few weeks. One of the changes that the next beta will introduce is a significant drop in CPU usage. This will lead up to the last release of 1.x branch but that just means there will be more focus on 2.x. Cheers Adam -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo vs XBMC vs Boxee
My HTPC usage is similar to yours, I don't have a tv tuner, I use it for movies and tv shows, music and occasionally gaming. A long time ago I was using MMS (My Media System) but then I moved to Freevo. MMS has some advantages over Freevo, namely the ability to create playlists through the interface, and then even save them. Its also way more stable and doesn't have the plethora of bugs that Freevo has. The CPU usage is way lower, probably because it is coded in C++. The user interface is well designed and easy to use. On the downside, MMS is not so configurable nor themeable, less extensible (Freevo has a big number of plugins, although many don't work), and there hasn't been any release since 2009, which makes me think that its either very mature or it dying. I also tried MythTV for a while, but abandoned it because its strong point was TV recording which I'm not interested in, and it was too complex. I have yet to try XBMC or Boxee. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo vs XBMC vs Boxee
Oddly enough, I faced a similar situation to you (hell, I even live in NZ). I tried out xbmc, and what drove me back to freevo was that is was just plain old simpler to configure, run and administer and the interface is cleaner. XBMCs interface is just too busy for me. My freevo box eventually failed, and I got me an acryan mini media player. It plays anything I have thrown at it - bar 1 movie - but man does the interface suck. I got it because the page was all open source this and customisable that, but its bollocks. Its impossible to do anything to the interface at all, and its code is poorly written - it says it supports online mp3 streams, but really it only works with shoutcast - with the connection string hard coded into the binary so when shoutcast changes something, no matter how trivial, its falls over and you have to wait for acryan to fix it. All the interesting stuff, like code that plays video and audio and receives events from the remote, is contained in this massive closed source binary which starts up a copy for each little thing, and it comes from realtec. So its a bit of a have really. There is a project that replaces all the UI stuff with "MMS" - my media system, but I can't get it to go. I wish I had freevo back :( On 24/02/11 10:48, Bill Burroughs wrote: > Hi all, > > I had been using Freevo for almost 4 years until about 4 months ago - I got a > 720p TV, and as my Freevo box wasn't powerful enough to decode 720p, I bought > myself a cheap little (Argosy) media box. Needless to say, losing the > ability > to customise things has got more and more annoying over the last 4 months, > and > I'm now so frustrated with it, and so underwhelmed by 720p, that I'm giving > up > on it. My freevo box is still in only a few pieces (4 months is a long time > to > go without opening up an unused piece of hardware), so won't take me long to > throw it back together, and I was thinking of just wiping the HD, and > installing OS and freevo from scratch. > > Obviously, as I'm doing that, I have the opportunity to choose a different OS > and different media player, and I've been looking at XBMC and Boxee. From > what > I've seen XBMC is the better choice from a OSS perspective, and seems to be > very customisable. The question is, why choose Freevo over XBMC? I know > under > normal circumstances a question like this to an OSS mailing list will end up > in > an endless stream of flames, and in those situations I would normally > sirupticiously defect without anyone knowing or caring. However, I've found > the Freevo lists to be very friendly and fair over the years, so I thought I > would throw it out to an open conversation to see what happened. > > > From a usage perspective, I don't record TV at all, New Zealand TV is > > pretty > rubbish (unless you like 24/7 rugby and "Australia's next top singing > sheepdog" > shows), and forces me to have to download UK and USA TV programmes from the > usual sources. Thus, all my content comes from SMB shares, with the odd net > radio station. One very handy feature I've seen for XBMC is a "latest > download > episodes" script/plugin, which would save a great number of arguments between > my better half and I. > > Anyway, let me know what you all think, but be gentle... :) > > Cheers > DJM23 > > P.S. In case it matters, I would describe my python skills as George W Bush > Jnr, i.e. clueless, but my linux, windows and perl/php skills are pretty > good; > and it hasn't stopped me from being able to hack freevo to do whatever I want. > > Nothing is true; Everything is permissible... > > > > > -- > Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > ___ > Freevo-users mailing list > Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo vs XBMC vs Boxee
On 23/02/2011 21:48, Bill Burroughs wrote: > Hi all, > > I had been using Freevo for almost 4 years until about 4 months ago - I got a > 720p TV, and as my Freevo box wasn't powerful enough to decode 720p, I bought > myself a cheap little (Argosy) media box. Needless to say, losing the > ability > to customise things has got more and more annoying over the last 4 months, > and > I'm now so frustrated with it, and so underwhelmed by 720p, that I'm giving > up > on it. My freevo box is still in only a few pieces (4 months is a long time > to > go without opening up an unused piece of hardware), so won't take me long to > throw it back together, and I was thinking of just wiping the HD, and > installing OS and freevo from scratch. From an HD playback perspective, the processor etc. isn't that important, what you really need is a graphics card that will offload the HD processing. I have an ASRock Ion330, it's a dual core Atom but it has the Nvidia ION graphics which mplayer can use to offload HD playback, so I can playback 1080p using about 5-10% cpu :D. Worth noting if you are going down the HD route an NVidia card that you can off-load too would be a pretty cheap addition if you can fit it in your box. There are even fanless versions that can do a lot of HD decoding. > The question is, why choose Freevo over XBMC? I know under > normal circumstances a question like this to an OSS mailing list will end up > in > an endless stream of flames, and in those situations I would normally > sirupticiously defect without anyone knowing or caring. However, I've found > the Freevo lists to be very friendly and fair over the years, so I thought I > would throw it out to an open conversation to see what happened. I've tried XBMC on the same piece of hardware. It kept producing lots of errors, although the interface was very slick. The biggest bonus I see of XBMC is that it has fast forward and rewind controls that work properly (not the stupid mplayer/xine skip forward+back controls). It took me a long time going through the menus trying to configure things properly but it all worked reasonably well. Having said that I abandoned it purely from the perspective of TV recording, which of course it can't do! I actually prefer freevo's simpler UI for day to day use, after a while XBMC became a bit of sensory overload! If managed to arrange for decent fast forward and re-wind (maybe steal the XBMC player?) then I would probably having nothing feature wise that I wanted that freevo didn't provide. Not sure how XBMC behaves with things like auto-shutdown on idle etc? Although I guess if recording it's left of an issue -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Freevo vs XBMC vs Boxee
Hi all, I had been using Freevo for almost 4 years until about 4 months ago - I got a 720p TV, and as my Freevo box wasn't powerful enough to decode 720p, I bought myself a cheap little (Argosy) media box. Needless to say, losing the ability to customise things has got more and more annoying over the last 4 months, and I'm now so frustrated with it, and so underwhelmed by 720p, that I'm giving up on it. My freevo box is still in only a few pieces (4 months is a long time to go without opening up an unused piece of hardware), so won't take me long to throw it back together, and I was thinking of just wiping the HD, and installing OS and freevo from scratch. Obviously, as I'm doing that, I have the opportunity to choose a different OS and different media player, and I've been looking at XBMC and Boxee. From what I've seen XBMC is the better choice from a OSS perspective, and seems to be very customisable. The question is, why choose Freevo over XBMC? I know under normal circumstances a question like this to an OSS mailing list will end up in an endless stream of flames, and in those situations I would normally sirupticiously defect without anyone knowing or caring. However, I've found the Freevo lists to be very friendly and fair over the years, so I thought I would throw it out to an open conversation to see what happened. >From a usage perspective, I don't record TV at all, New Zealand TV is pretty rubbish (unless you like 24/7 rugby and "Australia's next top singing sheepdog" shows), and forces me to have to download UK and USA TV programmes from the usual sources. Thus, all my content comes from SMB shares, with the odd net radio station. One very handy feature I've seen for XBMC is a "latest download episodes" script/plugin, which would save a great number of arguments between my better half and I. Anyway, let me know what you all think, but be gentle... :) Cheers DJM23 P.S. In case it matters, I would describe my python skills as George W Bush Jnr, i.e. clueless, but my linux, windows and perl/php skills are pretty good; and it hasn't stopped me from being able to hack freevo to do whatever I want. Nothing is true; Everything is permissible... -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
