Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
I think its 2008 when they turn it off.. On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 02:19, Matt McLeod wrote: > Jason Tackaberry wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 04:33, Matt McLeod wrote: > > > Pretty much, yes. You have to tune the device first, and then you > > > can read MPEG-2 streams from it. You still have to pick out the > > > right PIDs, though. > > > > What service provider are you using to supply the DVB stream? > > Australian free-to-air broadcasters. None of it is encrypted, > and the plan is to have analogue transmissions turned off in > ten years or so. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
Jason Tackaberry wrote: > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 04:33, Matt McLeod wrote: > > Pretty much, yes. You have to tune the device first, and then you > > can read MPEG-2 streams from it. You still have to pick out the > > right PIDs, though. > > What service provider are you using to supply the DVB stream? Australian free-to-air broadcasters. None of it is encrypted, and the plan is to have analogue transmissions turned off in ten years or so. -- The one good thing about repeating your mistakes is that you know when to cringe. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Jason Tackaberry wrote: > What service provider are you using to supply the DVB stream? > > I use Bell ExpressVu but I understand there are encryption issues and > it's just not possible for me to save the MPEG2 streams. But I'd be > quite curious to hear if anyone here has done gotten dvbstream to work > with BEV. I think that Bell ExpressVu uses ATSC Digital doesn't it (It's the pseudo-standard in North America, unlike Europe where it's an /actual/ standard :) Aubin --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 04:33, Matt McLeod wrote: > Pretty much, yes. You have to tune the device first, and then you > can read MPEG-2 streams from it. You still have to pick out the > right PIDs, though. What service provider are you using to supply the DVB stream? I use Bell ExpressVu but I understand there are encryption issues and it's just not possible for me to save the MPEG2 streams. But I'd be quite curious to hear if anyone here has done gotten dvbstream to work with BEV. Jason. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
Rob Shortt wrote: > Matt McLeod wrote: > >I looked at trying to get this working with Freevo, but Python isn't > >my thing and I ran out of time. What I have right now is a wrapper > >around dvbstream which tunes the card, grabs the right PIDs, and saves > >the resulting MPEG-2 PS to disk. It's called by WebVCR+ to do > >timed recording. > > You could also use your wrapper as your VCR_CMD for Freevo and record > that way. An even better solution would be to create a recording plugin > that does everything you need right in python... a few ioctl calls (the > ones for tuning the channel are already there), read from the device, > and save to a file. It's on my to-do list as a small project to help me learn Python, but as I've already got a working setup it's not as high a priority as it might otherwise be. Might get on to it over the Christmas break (I'll have a week with not much to do) if nobody has done it by then. Matt -- "The best way to debug a network is to get rid o' de buggers who abuse it!" -- Stephen Harris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
Matt McLeod wrote: DVB cards don't encode anything -- programmes are broadcast already MPEG-2 encoded. Oh yeah, I forgot. This might be pretty easy. Can you tell me how the DVB device works? Can you simply read a stream from the device and save it to a file? Pretty much, yes. You have to tune the device first, and then you can read MPEG-2 streams from it. You still have to pick out the right PIDs, though. That is very much how the ivtv cards work, it's pretty easy. I looked at trying to get this working with Freevo, but Python isn't my thing and I ran out of time. What I have right now is a wrapper around dvbstream which tunes the card, grabs the right PIDs, and saves the resulting MPEG-2 PS to disk. It's called by WebVCR+ to do timed recording. You could also use your wrapper as your VCR_CMD for Freevo and record that way. An even better solution would be to create a recording plugin that does everything you need right in python... a few ioctl calls (the ones for tuning the channel are already there), read from the device, and save to a file. -Rob --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
Graeme Christie wrote: Hi. I was just wondering whether anyone was currently using a DVB card with Freevo. I've just installed a new Avervmedia DVB-T card in my freevo Box (It's a budget kind with no MPEG2-decoder) and have the latest cvs of mplayer playing tv from it with no problems (eg with the command mplayer -vo mga dvb://"TEN Digital", where "TEN Digital" is the channel name). I don't have a DVB card but may be able to help... Has there been any work done on modifying the channel code to deal with named channels rather than numeric ones ? I imagine some kind of translation table would be the easiest way to go. This would also have to be implemented in the record_daemon module aswell I imagine. As far as I know channels are already treated as strings and not numeric. I am working on centralizing channel changing code to allow more controll over your Freevo channel list and what devices to use for each. I also want to record from my external Sattellite box via the (net yet operational, but should work eventually using vfl2/bttv) composite video in. Has any body got using an external channel changing command rather than bttv/mplayer/VFL channel changing to work ? Yes! :) What kind of sattelite box do you have? I made some freevo code to send IR command to my echostar branded receiver and plan on adding another module for 'normal' sat and cable boxes (but hooking in lirc's irsend command should do until then). Also, are you talking about the composite video connection on your DVB card or another v4l device? Does the DVB only ancode to mpeg2 on the tuner input? For more info on my plans for some of this stuff see: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/freevo/freevo/WIP/RobShortt/TODO?rev=1.11&view=auto Anyone toyed with the idea of writing the DVB mpeg 2 streams straight to disk. I could probably implement this using -vop copy easiliy enough. This might be pretty easy. Can you tell me how the DVB device works? Can you simply read a stream from the device and save it to a file? The ivtv drivers (for Hauppage pvr-250/350) work like this. For those drivers I cooked up some python to record natively in Freevo. I wrapped up some device ioctl calls in module functions and on the recording side just call some of those functions to set up the device then read from it and save the data to another file. I think that if the DVB cards / drivers work similarly then the same could be done for them. If you want to look at the ivtv code see src/tv/ivtv.py and src/tv/plugins/ivtv_record.py. -Rob --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
Rob Shortt wrote: > Does the DVB only ancode to mpeg2 on the tuner input? DVB cards don't encode anything -- programmes are broadcast already MPEG-2 encoded. > This might be pretty easy. Can you tell me how the DVB device works? > Can you simply read a stream from the device and save it to a file? Pretty much, yes. You have to tune the device first, and then you can read MPEG-2 streams from it. You still have to pick out the right PIDs, though. I looked at trying to get this working with Freevo, but Python isn't my thing and I ran out of time. What I have right now is a wrapper around dvbstream which tunes the card, grabs the right PIDs, and saves the resulting MPEG-2 PS to disk. It's called by WebVCR+ to do timed recording. But there's no real reason it couldn't work directly with Freevo, though AFAIK TVTime is supposed to support DVB-T now so there may not be much to do for live viewing at least. Matt -- "I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!" -- Royal Floyd Mengot (Klaus) --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
It took me four times to subscribe. I wasn't receiving the verification E- mails. Quoting Rob Shortt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Is sourceforge dropping anyone else's emails? This is my 3rd try > sending this although I did notice that one of my other attempts landed > in the archive > > Rob Shortt wrote: > > Graeme Christie wrote: > > > >>Hi. I was just wondering whether anyone was currently using a DVB > >> card with Freevo. I've just installed a new Avervmedia DVB-T card in > >> my freevo Box (It's a budget kind with no MPEG2-decoder) and have the > >> latest cvs of mplayer playing tv from it with no problems (eg with the > >> command mplayer -vo mga dvb://"TEN Digital", where "TEN Digital" is > >> the channel name). > > > > > > I don't have a DVB card but may be able to help... > > > >> > >>Has there been any work done on modifying the channel code to deal > >> with named channels rather than numeric ones ? I imagine some kind of > >> translation table would be the easiest way to go. This would also have > >> to be implemented in the record_daemon module aswell I imagine. > > > > > > As far as I know channels are already treated as strings and not > > numeric. I am working on centralizing channel changing code to allow > > more controll over your Freevo channel list and what devices to use for > > each. > > > >> > >>I also want to record from my external Sattellite box via the (net > >> yet operational, but should work eventually using vfl2/bttv) composite > >> video in. Has any body got using an external channel changing command > >> rather than bttv/mplayer/VFL channel changing to work ? > > > > > > Yes! :) > > > > What kind of sattelite box do you have? I made some freevo code to send > > IR command to my echostar branded receiver and plan on adding another > > module for 'normal' sat and cable boxes (but hooking in lirc's irsend > > command should do until then). > > > > Also, are you talking about the composite video connection on your DVB > > card or another v4l device? Does the DVB only ancode to mpeg2 on the > > tuner input? > > > > For more info on my plans for some of this stuff see: > > > > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/freevo/freevo/WIP/RobShortt/TODO? rev=1.11&view=auto > > > > > > >>Anyone toyed with the idea of writing the DVB mpeg 2 streams > >> straight to disk. I could probably implement this using -vop copy > >> easiliy enough. > > > > > > This might be pretty easy. Can you tell me how the DVB device works? > > Can you simply read a stream from the device and save it to a file? The > > ivtv drivers (for Hauppage pvr-250/350) work like this. For those > > drivers I cooked up some python to record natively in Freevo. I wrapped > > up some device ioctl calls in module functions and on the recording side > > just call some of those functions to set up the device then read from it > > and save the data to another file. I think that if the DVB cards / > > drivers work similarly then the same could be done for them. If you > > want to look at the ivtv code see src/tv/ivtv.py and > > src/tv/plugins/ivtv_record.py. > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > > --- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > ___ > Freevo-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users > --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Status of DVB cards in Freevo
Is sourceforge dropping anyone else's emails? This is my 3rd try sending this although I did notice that one of my other attempts landed in the archive Rob Shortt wrote: Graeme Christie wrote: Hi. I was just wondering whether anyone was currently using a DVB card with Freevo. I've just installed a new Avervmedia DVB-T card in my freevo Box (It's a budget kind with no MPEG2-decoder) and have the latest cvs of mplayer playing tv from it with no problems (eg with the command mplayer -vo mga dvb://"TEN Digital", where "TEN Digital" is the channel name). I don't have a DVB card but may be able to help... Has there been any work done on modifying the channel code to deal with named channels rather than numeric ones ? I imagine some kind of translation table would be the easiest way to go. This would also have to be implemented in the record_daemon module aswell I imagine. As far as I know channels are already treated as strings and not numeric. I am working on centralizing channel changing code to allow more controll over your Freevo channel list and what devices to use for each. I also want to record from my external Sattellite box via the (net yet operational, but should work eventually using vfl2/bttv) composite video in. Has any body got using an external channel changing command rather than bttv/mplayer/VFL channel changing to work ? Yes! :) What kind of sattelite box do you have? I made some freevo code to send IR command to my echostar branded receiver and plan on adding another module for 'normal' sat and cable boxes (but hooking in lirc's irsend command should do until then). Also, are you talking about the composite video connection on your DVB card or another v4l device? Does the DVB only ancode to mpeg2 on the tuner input? For more info on my plans for some of this stuff see: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/freevo/freevo/WIP/RobShortt/TODO?rev=1.11&view=auto Anyone toyed with the idea of writing the DVB mpeg 2 streams straight to disk. I could probably implement this using -vop copy easiliy enough. This might be pretty easy. Can you tell me how the DVB device works? Can you simply read a stream from the device and save it to a file? The ivtv drivers (for Hauppage pvr-250/350) work like this. For those drivers I cooked up some python to record natively in Freevo. I wrapped up some device ioctl calls in module functions and on the recording side just call some of those functions to set up the device then read from it and save the data to another file. I think that if the DVB cards / drivers work similarly then the same could be done for them. If you want to look at the ivtv code see src/tv/ivtv.py and src/tv/plugins/ivtv_record.py. -Rob --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
