Re: [Freevo-users] vlc timeshifting
Hi, karl that sounds like a really neat idea, you could even have a salve freevo box in another room chris Karl Lattimer wrote: Hi all, I've been playing quite excitedly with videolan client, my thought pattern went thus; 1) Wouldn't it be cool if I could watch TV on my mac through WiFi 2) WOW, if I'm streaming network video I can pause/rewind it just like web radio 3) OMFGG, if freevo had a TV player interface to a vlc streaming server running then I could pause/rewind TV in freevo Now I've been hacking around with this for hours now, most of the weekend in fact, I've managed to get video streaming to my mac, but the audio is causing a major headache, I take video from the composite input which comes out of my pace cable box, I take audio from the line input but it doesn't want to stream?! I can pause/rewind the video over the network stream, I'm busy rebuilding vlc without a gui so I can run it without it appearing over the top of freevo. So I've put a lot of the testing stuff in place, what I wanted to know is whether or not anyone has ever tried this? Or if someone with the python knowledge wouldn't mind working with me a bit to get a freevo plugin working? I think the there are the following requirements, * A VLC (running as a client) plugin for TV input * A remote interface so the play/pause/rewind/fast forward buttons work on tv * A method of changing channels ?! v4lctl/lirc-send/network somehow for situations where the TV receiver is in another machine or viewer is remote via network It would probably be best to have a tcp server app for receiving the channel change commands and then acting on them, my reasoning for this is when you have a streaming video server there is no sense in closing off the channel change function to the network. Regards Karl, --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] vlc timeshifting
Hi Karl exactly, it might also save the developers a lot of works as they don't need to write time shifting stuff I'll down load vlc and fiddle on my box over the next few days chris Karl Lattimer wrote: yeah, and multicast to all of your rooms, imagine the implications of a 'tuner box' with like 5 tuner cards in it, freevo could record from 5 channels AND timeshift all five on different freevo boxes on screen, because vlc allows you to have as many clients as your bandwidth limitations provide. Or how about, a bunch of freevo boxes which share channels each one will only ever stream a different channel, the boxes all communicate with each other so if one freevo is already providing a channel there isn't any need to start streaming it a second time, now if one of the boxes in the cluster is missing a tv tuner, that is ok, because it can request a stream from one of the others that does. If someone is watching tv on one, and an item in their recording schedule is about to start, it could utilise a tuner in a remote box also. It could also be possible to share recording schedule across all of the systems in the cluster, at that point it would probably be a good idea to set up NFS or a cluster file system to efficiently share storage requirements and ensure access to each of the freevo boxes. If one system gets nominated for the first item in the recording schedule, then the next available box can pick up the next one, and so on. The advantages of using a client/ server based TV model are pretty much endless. Not forgetting of course that you can also stream to windows/mac clients, wifi access to an ipaq also. Its a really cool method of getting this stuff to work with existing software. Another couple ideas I'd like to drop in is video surveillance, and video phone, although for the latter latency may be an issue. I just wish I knew python and could code this stuff ;S Karl, On 24 Jul 2005, at 17:39, Chris Ellis wrote: Hi, karl that sounds like a really neat idea, you could even have a salve freevo box in another room chris Karl Lattimer wrote: Hi all, I've been playing quite excitedly with videolan client, my thought pattern went thus; 1) Wouldn't it be cool if I could watch TV on my mac through WiFi 2) WOW, if I'm streaming network video I can pause/rewind it just like web radio 3) OMFGG, if freevo had a TV player interface to a vlc streaming server running then I could pause/rewind TV in freevo Now I've been hacking around with this for hours now, most of the weekend in fact, I've managed to get video streaming to my mac, but the audio is causing a major headache, I take video from the composite input which comes out of my pace cable box, I take audio from the line input but it doesn't want to stream?! I can pause/rewind the video over the network stream, I'm busy rebuilding vlc without a gui so I can run it without it appearing over the top of freevo. So I've put a lot of the testing stuff in place, what I wanted to know is whether or not anyone has ever tried this? Or if someone with the python knowledge wouldn't mind working with me a bit to get a freevo plugin working? I think the there are the following requirements, * A VLC (running as a client) plugin for TV input * A remote interface so the play/pause/rewind/fast forward buttons work on tv * A method of changing channels ?! v4lctl/lirc-send/network somehow for situations where the TV receiver is in another machine or viewer is remote via network It would probably be best to have a tcp server app for receiving the channel change commands and then acting on them, my reasoning for this is when you have a streaming video server there is no sense in closing off the channel change function to the network. Regards Karl, --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies
Re: [Freevo-users] vlc timeshifting
Hi Karls ( i should probably read emails fully before emailing lol anyway) I had a thought the other day of maybe freevo could have a webcam with say gaim or something, then you could chat to friends from the comport of your living room, maybe even use VOIP as that seem to be the latest thing, I've started learning python for a few months, i jsut can find documenation about how to write a plugin otherwised id try chris Karl Lattimer wrote: yeah, and multicast to all of your rooms, imagine the implications of a 'tuner box' with like 5 tuner cards in it, freevo could record from 5 channels AND timeshift all five on different freevo boxes on screen, because vlc allows you to have as many clients as your bandwidth limitations provide. Or how about, a bunch of freevo boxes which share channels each one will only ever stream a different channel, the boxes all communicate with each other so if one freevo is already providing a channel there isn't any need to start streaming it a second time, now if one of the boxes in the cluster is missing a tv tuner, that is ok, because it can request a stream from one of the others that does. If someone is watching tv on one, and an item in their recording schedule is about to start, it could utilise a tuner in a remote box also. It could also be possible to share recording schedule across all of the systems in the cluster, at that point it would probably be a good idea to set up NFS or a cluster file system to efficiently share storage requirements and ensure access to each of the freevo boxes. If one system gets nominated for the first item in the recording schedule, then the next available box can pick up the next one, and so on. The advantages of using a client/ server based TV model are pretty much endless. Not forgetting of course that you can also stream to windows/mac clients, wifi access to an ipaq also. Its a really cool method of getting this stuff to work with existing software. Another couple ideas I'd like to drop in is video surveillance, and video phone, although for the latter latency may be an issue. I just wish I knew python and could code this stuff ;S Karl, On 24 Jul 2005, at 17:39, Chris Ellis wrote: Hi, karl that sounds like a really neat idea, you could even have a salve freevo box in another room chris Karl Lattimer wrote: Hi all, I've been playing quite excitedly with videolan client, my thought pattern went thus; 1) Wouldn't it be cool if I could watch TV on my mac through WiFi 2) WOW, if I'm streaming network video I can pause/rewind it just like web radio 3) OMFGG, if freevo had a TV player interface to a vlc streaming server running then I could pause/rewind TV in freevo Now I've been hacking around with this for hours now, most of the weekend in fact, I've managed to get video streaming to my mac, but the audio is causing a major headache, I take video from the composite input which comes out of my pace cable box, I take audio from the line input but it doesn't want to stream?! I can pause/rewind the video over the network stream, I'm busy rebuilding vlc without a gui so I can run it without it appearing over the top of freevo. So I've put a lot of the testing stuff in place, what I wanted to know is whether or not anyone has ever tried this? Or if someone with the python knowledge wouldn't mind working with me a bit to get a freevo plugin working? I think the there are the following requirements, * A VLC (running as a client) plugin for TV input * A remote interface so the play/pause/rewind/fast forward buttons work on tv * A method of changing channels ?! v4lctl/lirc-send/network somehow for situations where the TV receiver is in another machine or viewer is remote via network It would probably be best to have a tcp server app for receiving the channel change commands and then acting on them, my reasoning for this is when you have a streaming video server there is no sense in closing off the channel change function to the network. Regards Karl, --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___
