Re: Hackers battle security, politicians...

[Martin Cosgrave]

 
Apparently techno DJs have a really bad time in 
Israel too, the Orthodox jews considering techno evil or 
something...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  kevin mccarthy 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 7:29 
  AM
  Subject: Hackers battle security, 
  politicians...
  
  Hi Martin et al,
   
  Israel of all places (I once had to go through an 
  interrogation to get crypto kit
  out of the country, let alone to hold a hackers conference 
  within it !)...
   
  http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/2331/A41419-2000Mar31.html
   
  This link comes from the www.securitysearch.net weekly mail 
  shot - worth
  being on if you are not there already.
   
  K.

Fw: Internet social campaigning under threat

[Martin Cosgrave]

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I actually took advantage of the 'fax your MP' thing at www.stand.org.uk,
within a couple of weeks I had a substantial envelope through my door
containing the draft bill, explanatory notes and the Hansard debate report.
So I have all the info in my hands, but no time to read it. If anyone wants
my copy, mail me and I'll stick it in the post.

Martin

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From: Chris Keene (by way of Tony Gosling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 3:19 PM
Subject: Internet social campaigning under threat


> PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY
> PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY
> PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY
>
> RIGHT TO COMMUNICATE / Regulation of Investigatory Powers Bill forum
>
> Peaceful protest is a "serious crime" in the British government's Bill
> to intercept private email communication
>
> Statement from GreenNet
>
> In September last year, at a conference on British government plans to
> give police and intelligence services the right to read private email,
> Patricia Hewitt, the minister for e-commerce, claimed these plans were
> necessary "because crime has become global and digital and we have to
> combat this". What she omitted to mention was that one of the "crimes"
> the government was setting out to combat was the kind of peaceful
> protest actions that took place in Seattle at the WTO meeting. This has
> now been made crystal clear in the proposed Regulation of Investigatory
> Powers (RIP) Bill. Continuing with a definition first brought in by the
> Thatcher government to allow police to tap the phones of union members
> in the 1985 British miners' strike, the Bill specifically designates
> "conduct by a large number of persons in pursuit of a common purpose" to
> be "a serious crime" justifying an interception of their private email
> correspondence. The police requested that this measure be introduced in
> a report into the demonstration that took place at the City of London as
> part of an international day of protest actions on June
> 18th last year. There were violent clashes between the police and this
> initially non-violent demonstration.
>
> The group that organised the June 18th demonstration is a GreenNet user
> and much of the organisation for the international protest took place
> using GreenNet Internet facilities. If the RIP Bill had been in place
> last year there seems little doubt that the police would have applied
> for an order to force GreenNet to give them access to the private email
> of people involved in the June 18th events. The police would almost
> certainly have wanted a similar order over protest activities planned to
> coincide with the Seattle WTO meeting. Under the RIP Bill, they will now
> be able to obtain such facilities to spy on the activities of protest
> groups. Internet Service Providers (ISPs) will have to build
> "interception capabilities" into their systems.  When served with an
> "interception warrant" they will be forced to intercept private email
> and convey its contents to the police or various intelligence services.
> Refusal to comply with a warrant will carry a maximum jail sentence of
> two years.  "Tipping-off" someone that their email is being read is
> punishable by up to five years jail.
>
> This also applies to informing anyone not authorised to know about the
> interception warrant. The warrant will initially be served on a named
> individual within an ISP. They may inform only those other people they
> need to help them implement the warrant and these, in turn, face the
> same penalties for tipping-off. The only exception allowed is to consult
> legal advisors.
>
> A separate section of the Bill deals with encryption. This provides for
> "properly authorised persons (such as members of the law enforcement,
> security and intelligence agencies) to serve written notices on
> individuals or bodies requiring the surrender of information (such as a
> decryption key) to enable them to understand (make intelligible)
> protected material which they lawfully hold, or are likely to."
>
> Such an order can be served on anyone "there are reasonable grounds for
> believing" has an encryption key. They could face two years jail for not
> revealing the key and are also subject to the same possible five year
> jail sentence as ISPs for informing someone that attempts are being made
> by the authorities to read their email. This section of the Bill has
> been widely condemned by civil liberties lawyers as reversing the
> fundamental right of a person to be presumed innocent until proven
> guilty and will almost certainly be challenged using the European
> Convention on Human Rights.
>
> The British Bill is part of long term plans that have been developed
> since 1993 to give law enforcement bodies around the world the ability
> to intercept and read modern digital communications. In that year, the
> FBI initiated an International Law Enforcement Telecommunications
> Seminar (ILE

Anyone know...

[Mercedes .]

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...a good resource on countersurveillance?  I would like to know how to 
detect small recording devices in my vicinity.  I know it's paranoid, but as 
the technology is getting cheaper and more widespread, no-one has seemed to 
address this problem.  I even saw a program on the 'Discovery Channel' that 
seemed to condone the use of small video and audio recording devices for 
random offensively-paranoid reasons (as opposed to 'defensively-paranoid', 
like myself :p).  Fucking made me want to puke.

Okay, another question: anyone know of any out-of-the-way, relatively mild, 
quiet, peaceful principalities/countries?  I want to escape this rapist 
nation -- and I certainly don't want to live in a country actively 
participating in this corporate-economic-globalization-media-hell, either.  
I'm more than happy to run away and let the wolves tear themselves to bits.  
That or wait for the frustrated extraterrestrials to show up and turn their 
errant social experiment into fertile topsoil.  :)



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RE: Anyone know...

[John Morse]

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> Okay, another question: anyone know of any out-of-the-way, 
> relatively mild, 
> quiet, peaceful principalities/countries? 


NE France.no honest!
my parent have palace up in the foothills no count the number of cars that
go by in a week ..on your hand, residents get hunting, logging and fishing
rights, you can get to the major principalities (Dijon) by car in an hour or
so,

warm fresh bread in the morning, good wine, and the major industry?...god
knows, 

. sod it I'm off .:-)
  


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RE: Anyone know...

[John Morse]

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sorry 

my parent have a PLACE up there..:)

oops

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 03 April 2000 11:40
> To: multiple recipients of
> Subject: Anyone know...
> 
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> F R E N D Z  of martian
> ---
> ...a good resource on countersurveillance?  I would like to 
> know how to 
> detect small recording devices in my vicinity.  I know it's 
> paranoid, but as 
> the technology is getting cheaper and more widespread, no-one 
> has seemed to 
> address this problem.  I even saw a program on the 'Discovery 
> Channel' that 
> seemed to condone the use of small video and audio recording 
> devices for 
> random offensively-paranoid reasons (as opposed to 
> 'defensively-paranoid', 
> like myself :p).  Fucking made me want to puke.
> 
> Okay, another question: anyone know of any out-of-the-way, 
> relatively mild, 
> quiet, peaceful principalities/countries?  I want to escape 
> this rapist 
> nation -- and I certainly don't want to live in a country actively 
> participating in this 
> corporate-economic-globalization-media-hell, either.  
> I'm more than happy to run away and let the wolves tear 
> themselves to bits.  
> That or wait for the frustrated extraterrestrials to show up 
> and turn their 
> errant social experiment into fertile topsoil.  :)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Anyone know...

[Martin Cosgrave]

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> ...a good resource on countersurveillance?  I would like to know how to
> detect small recording devices in my vicinity.  I know it's paranoid, but
as

If it's the typical FM transmitter there is an easy way to detect it - get
an FM receiver which covers the whole FM band (most radios don't) and sweep
through the band, if you get a high pitched squeal you've got a transmitter
in the room. The squeal is acoustic feedback, transmitted from the bug to
the receiver and hence back round in a feedback loop.

> Okay, another question: anyone know of any out-of-the-way, relatively
mild,
> quiet, peaceful principalities/countries?  I want to escape this rapist

It's pretty hard to live on this planet and escape all that... personally
I'm planning on hiding away in Ireland :-)

luvonya
martian



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Uncrackable Codes

[Paul_Brownsmith]

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Hello All,
I remember seeing a posting on this here list about some kind of 'erection'
(no pun intended) in the states, which contained a code that nobody could
break. It was situated in the grounds of a government agency or something. A
URL would be nice for this if anyone knows/remembers what Im on about, 
Cheers,
Brownie.




Paul Brownsmith - Content Developer - Dell EMEA Online


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Re: Uncrackable Codes

[Martin Cosgrave]

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http://www.odci.gov/cia/information/tour/krypt.html

That's just a picture of it - it's called 'Kryptos'.

CIA agents practice their crypto on it in their spare time - with paper and
pencil only... like you say, last time I knew it was still uncracked.

The original story was on 'wired' but it seems to have fallen out of their
DB...

Martin

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Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:50 PM
Subject: Uncrackable Codes


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> Hello All,
> I remember seeing a posting on this here list about some kind of
'erection'
> (no pun intended) in the states, which contained a code that nobody could
> break. It was situated in the grounds of a government agency or something.
A
> URL would be nice for this if anyone knows/remembers what Im on about,
> Cheers,
> Brownie.
>
>
>
>
> Paul Brownsmith - Content Developer - Dell EMEA Online
>
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Re: Uncrackable Codes

[Martin Cosgrave]

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More sites for the Kryptos thing...

http://elections98.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/july99/kryptos19
.htm
http://204.202.137.112/onair/WorldNewsTonight/wnt9990615_ciacode.html

This one claims a solution:
http://members.aol.com/akaulins/expak/expak6.htm

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:50 PM
Subject: Uncrackable Codes


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> F R E N D Z  of martian
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> Hello All,
> I remember seeing a posting on this here list about some kind of
'erection'
> (no pun intended) in the states, which contained a code that nobody could
> break. It was situated in the grounds of a government agency or something.
A
> URL would be nice for this if anyone knows/remembers what Im on about,
> Cheers,
> Brownie.
>
>
>
>
> Paul Brownsmith - Content Developer - Dell EMEA Online
>
>
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Fw: GeeK: volcano blows smoke rings.

[Martin Cosgrave]

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Nice pictures...
- Original Message - 
From: Vince Koser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:18 PM
Subject: GeeK: volcano blows smoke rings.


> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_696000/696953.stm
> 
> -- 
> "They have computers and other weapons of mass destruction" 
> pgp info below:  -US Attorney General Janet Reno
> pub  1024D/ED08504D 2000-01-18 Vincent Koser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Key fingerprint = 99AA 7A40 0C0C B057 F6B6  E347 E312 CC25 ED08 504D
> sub  2048g/91D2168E 2000-01-18
> 


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Re: Anyone know...

[kevin mccarthy]

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Hi,

>> ...a good resource on countersurveillance?  I would like to know how to
>> detect small recording devices in my vicinity.  I know it's paranoid, but
>as
>
>If it's the typical FM transmitter there is an easy way to detect it - get
>an FM receiver which covers the whole FM band (most radios don't) and sweep
>through the band, if you get a high pitched squeal you've got a transmitter
>in the room. The squeal is acoustic feedback, transmitted from the bug to
>the receiver and hence back round in a feedback loop.

...well this may not be sufficient - depends how paranoid one
wants to be - if your office is open to external contractors e.g.
cleaners or greenery maintainers then magnetic tape devices
can be placed and removed out of hours - these require higher spec
detection gear. There are also the Tempest type attacks (indeed
a year or two back a new variant was added where a software
virus was used to alter the VDU frequencies to transfer disk contents
straight out of the window). [Then there are exchange based phone
taps; a large US/UK spy base in Yorkshire; and I'm pretty sure the
WAP/WTLS is still with  weakened encryption - I can see why an
alternate location appeals - my vote goes to Ireland also !]

Anyway a couple of links for counter surveillance kit might include:
http://www.spymaster.co.uk/
http://www.intpro.co.uk/

K.


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Re: Anyone know...

[Martin Cosgrave]

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A great idea for office surveillance is to give the bug its own digital
audio encoder and IP stack and go round replacing ethernet jack sockets...
I can't imagine that these aren't already in use somewhere - imagine the
advantage of one of those in the CEO's office

- Original Message -
From: kevin mccarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know...


> ---
> F R E N D Z  of martian
> ---
> Hi,
>
> >> ...a good resource on countersurveillance?  I would like to know how to
> >> detect small recording devices in my vicinity.  I know it's paranoid,
but
> >as
> >
> >If it's the typical FM transmitter there is an easy way to detect it -
get
> >an FM receiver which covers the whole FM band (most radios don't) and
sweep
> >through the band, if you get a high pitched squeal you've got a
transmitter
> >in the room. The squeal is acoustic feedback, transmitted from the bug to
> >the receiver and hence back round in a feedback loop.
>
> ...well this may not be sufficient - depends how paranoid one
> wants to be - if your office is open to external contractors e.g.
> cleaners or greenery maintainers then magnetic tape devices
> can be placed and removed out of hours - these require higher spec
> detection gear. There are also the Tempest type attacks (indeed
> a year or two back a new variant was added where a software
> virus was used to alter the VDU frequencies to transfer disk contents
> straight out of the window). [Then there are exchange based phone
> taps; a large US/UK spy base in Yorkshire; and I'm pretty sure the
> WAP/WTLS is still with  weakened encryption - I can see why an
> alternate location appeals - my vote goes to Ireland also !]
>
> Anyway a couple of links for counter surveillance kit might include:
> http://www.spymaster.co.uk/
> http://www.intpro.co.uk/
>
> K.
>
>
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Poisson d'avril

[Martin Cosgrave]

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Did anyone get any good April fool jokes/sites?

I got one about shutting the internet down for essential maintenance. Oh and
the one about Apache webserver running on a Palmpilot.

This: http://www.minidisc.org/mz-r110pda.htm has also appeared; since it was
posted on April 1 some have claimed it's an April fool, but it seems
completely feasible: a Minidisc recorder with PalmOs in it, MP3 compatible.
The 8Mb RAM beats the pants off my Palm V, but slot in a blank MiniDisc for
140Mb of storage (if you don't use one of these devices you might not
realise how *much* that is for a PalmOs device - although if the main use is
MP3 I guess you'd use that up fast enough).

Haven't x-checked the Sony site yet tho

Martin


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Fw: GeeK: Monkey: FW: [fslist] which watch for a geek?

[Martin Cosgrave]

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geeky timepieces...
(most of the URLs will need cut-and-paste surgery)

>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Meng Weng Wong
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 7:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [fslist] which watch for a geek?
>
>
> my trusty 10-year-old casio databank has been running a second
> fast per day since i put new batteries in.
>
> so i'm thinking, should i go for the
>
> wristwatch camera
>
http://205.158.10.200/corporate/index.cfm?act=10&ID=745&CFID=123217&CFTOKEN=
> 98515033
>
> or the gps wristwatch
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&Parent=40&PID=1679&CFID=123
> 217&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
> or the mp3 wristwatch
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&Parent=82&PID=1713&CFID=123
> 217&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
> or the PDA i can hotsync with my palmpilot over IR
> http://205.158.10.200/mobileinformation/index.cfm?act=0&PID=1717
>
> (though matsucom's wrist-PDA looks nicer)
>
http://www.pdazoo.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/p-MTOH.htm
> l?E+scstore
>
> (but casio also has a full-screen model)
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=35&CID=35&Parent=35&CFID=1232
> 17&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
> or maybe the one that's a cellphone wristwatch
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&Parent=35&PID=1317&CFID=123
> 217&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
> or (rourke will like this one)
> the one that will make you the life of any superbowl party where the
remote
> has gone missing
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&Parent=35&PID=69&CFID=12321
> 7&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
> or maybe the one that i'll go rollerblading/running with
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&Parent=37&PID=127&CFID=1232
> 17&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
> (ok, i lied, so maybe it's not really a cellphone, but this one is)
> http://www.eetimes.com/story/career/timespeople/OEG19991027S0051
>
> but i don't know.  i'll probably just stick to the good old databank.
>
http://205.158.10.200/timepieces/index.cfm?act=0&Parent=34&PID=35&CFID=12321
> 7&CFTOKEN=98515033
>
>
>
>
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No Subject

[Martin Cosgrave]

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Hi frendz :-)

Just faxed my MP again (via http://www.stand.org.uk/fax.php3) about the RIP
(Regulation of Investigatory Powers) bill. Thought you might like to see my
message (which consists mainly of someone else's scenario of how it might
all go wrong) [Thanks Tony].

martian

...


Dear Ms Corston

Thank you for your recent communication enclosing the RIP bill and
associated documentation including the relevant Hansard debate reports -
what I have read has been most enlightening but unfortunately as a director
of a relatively new internet development company I am afraid I do not have
time to read them in any great detail.

However, I came across a critique of the RIP bill which I thought you might
wish to comment on, given your previous eloquent and informed response to my
earlier questions. I would be very interested to hear the government's line
on a situation such as is outlined below.

Sincerely

Martin Cosgrave
Director, AppDev Ltd

---8<--- Beginning of included text

Suppose, just suppose,  one is a PGP user.

Suppose one writes out "Mary had a little lamb"  a few times,  and encrypts
it to a newly invented key with no email address attached to it,  a
nameless
public key that is not used for any purpose.  Suppose one then deletes that
key and its corresponding private key,  and wipes any trace of  them.
Suppose one then sends copies of the encrypted message to a range of
friends,
 who change it about here and there, and send it all over the place.
Hundreds or thousands of  emails consisting of a block of random meaningless
characters.

Suppose one receives such a message out of the blue,  and the filth - sorry,
police / MI5 / MI6 - turn up demanding decryption.  What then?  Neither
sender nor receiver can decrypt the message.  Will they be prosecuted and
jailed?

Is it possible one could send false PGP messages to people who don't even
use
PGP, and eventually get some of them in trouble because they cannot decrypt
it?

Is there not scope for serious mischief in this awful legislation,  because
the legislators and their advisers have no concept of the ways encryption
operates,  and the possibilities?

I will take in as many encrypted messages as people care to send,
preferably
funny jokes.  The more we send, the better.  We should swamp the system with
encrypted (or fake encrypted) messages,  because it will not be an offence
to
send them.  Soon enough, they will be forced to realise that when I send a
PGP message, I do NOT include my public key in the encryption process,  and
so ONLY the addressee(s) (owner(s) of the public key(s) used) may be able to
decrypt them. Then again, they may be false PGP messages.  I won't be able
to
say which, and the recipients will not be able to decrypt them - or will
they?  Maybe there's some prior private arrangement that means the sender
and
recipient have a secret  system (such as an agreed line-switching) that
enables decryption after all, but which makes the message appear a false
one?


Geez, but there's going to be some grief over this.

Here's my public key.
All funny  jokes welcome provided they are (a) funny and (b) PGPed!
The good ones are stored for my book 

-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use 
Comment: PGP means Pretty Good Privacy

mQGiBDa6XW8RBADuPVB3LfgYlosdoOOtwKjTJ/Hkk/Tf1CCRDkepkNoCFnxVU7je
uV4I94TsFv7Y5ZP2qXMM56aM7ly47SVcQuWzQXuhV6erxTnRoDk3sUASRRuzBYC5
YyW0xxfWLYGu0ST7mW/e9c7SbEof7gwTYXvtOA2aXp+dmh9jMRL9NClNBQCg/3aU
RWUVJnzYGNg0nRAynsVMbWEEANcRxas7IxnYbpohMynHtaqWD/3hkKGUWpB3pXb0
iGNzjtD4WeDUGjZMpjbcv5AB5ZtAIxBo2sN6kPhtFgOIam+qlNBR86CQnQVCnQWu
nTLcsLamQ3vX/enhLjS0ZR7ATW/AS6hIKKIbITjtWFTbfYHJevPItVF/sO7qZTRA
mpjeA/wNOAgovprLNjnUTheEpzFp5DhoPxzhSRiir2cLUoBAtYI5gB1lHgGgRR44
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Charles Young
Scotland  UK

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