Re: [FRIAM] watch this

[Carl Tollander]

Assume somebody has thought about sticking 'em at lagrange points.   
They'll stay there, and could survey some of the asteroids that also 
hang in the vicinity.   Some of them are quite large.


Could also set the craft themselves to orbit the lagrange points.   
Since those are 'tadpole' orbits, at, say, L4, they'd cover more 
territory.   How you'd do comm between cheapsats at those 
distancesmaybe launch at intervals and let each one relay signals 
between the earlier and later-launched guys.


I was thinking earlier that there's the possibility for very long 
baseline interferometry, so there's an avenue for cooperation.


9000 near earth asteroids so far - a lot to see.

On 4/25/12 9:40 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

Interesting .. a swarm of 16 or more space explorers.  Wow!

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Carl Tollander > wrote:


http://www.spacevidcast.com/ live/ 


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Re: [FRIAM] watch this

[Owen Densmore]

Interesting .. a swarm of 16 or more space explorers.  Wow!

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Carl Tollander  wrote:

> http://www.spacevidcast.com/**live/ 
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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

[Sarbajit Roy]

Dear Glen

Insofar as Ayurvedic medicines go, these would be good starting points.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297513/
http://www.ccimindia.org/

Informally, Ayurvedic ("herbal") medicine works for low level (common)
ailments but perhaps not at the efficiency / success levels of
allopathic systems. They are best viewed as complementary traditional
treatments to allopathy with reduced/lower side effects (for example
treatments of the common cough / cold) .

Sarbajit

On 4/26/12, glen  wrote:
>
> Are there any sources for data that you recommend?  Keep in mind that
> I'm used to biological data.  I don't think my mind is closed to other
> types of data.  But I would expect something like blind experiments and
> statistically significant populations.  Etc.
>
> Feel free to tell me to RTFM. 8^)  I just figured you might be able to
> suggest a few sources off the top of your head.
>
> peggy miller wrote at 04/25/2012 09:26 AM:
>> Speaking in defense of some alternatives, and as a Chinese/Ayurvedic
>> Medicinal Herbalist, I so far in my practice am finding it to be highly
>> useful as a medical alternative for everything from congestion to
>> insomnia,
>> tremors, memory loss, bowel problems, diabetic problems, fatigue,
>> arthritis, nerve issues. I have yet to have a client with seizures, but
>> it
>> is supposed to help many cases of that nature. The research and
>> validation
>> on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes back millenium, with many
>> cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how
>> useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local
>> Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy
>> M.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

[glen]

Are there any sources for data that you recommend?  Keep in mind that 
I'm used to biological data.  I don't think my mind is closed to other 
types of data.  But I would expect something like blind experiments and 
statistically significant populations.  Etc.


Feel free to tell me to RTFM. 8^)  I just figured you might be able to 
suggest a few sources off the top of your head.


peggy miller wrote at 04/25/2012 09:26 AM:

Speaking in defense of some alternatives, and as a Chinese/Ayurvedic
Medicinal Herbalist, I so far in my practice am finding it to be highly
useful as a medical alternative for everything from congestion to insomnia,
tremors, memory loss, bowel problems, diabetic problems, fatigue,
arthritis, nerve issues. I have yet to have a client with seizures, but it
is supposed to help many cases of that nature. The research and validation
on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes back millenium, with many
cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how
useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local
Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy M.


--
glen


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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

[Arlo Barnes]

You speak to statistical support of at least an anecdotal nature with

> The research and validation on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes
> back millenium, with many cases.

But I would be curious about what mechanistic explanations have been
offered for the effectiveness/efficacy of specific treatments, and what
support each one has. I will accept any medicine that has a well-supported
mechanism for function, regardless of whether it is 'alternative' or not
(what a silly term, of course each treatment is an alternative to every
other treatment meant to address the same condition. As to how well each
addresses it, the proof is in the pudding).
-Arlo James Barnes

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[peggy miller]

Speaking in defense of some alternatives, and as a Chinese/Ayurvedic
Medicinal Herbalist, I so far in my practice am finding it to be highly
useful as a medical alternative for everything from congestion to insomnia,
tremors, memory loss, bowel problems, diabetic problems, fatigue,
arthritis, nerve issues. I have yet to have a client with seizures, but it
is supposed to help many cases of that nature. The research and validation
on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes back millenium, with many
cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how
useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local
Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy M.
Miller

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