Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?
He wouldn't be descended from Robert Stirling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stirling of the Stirling Engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_engine fame would he? (He probably gets that question all the time). Robert C On 3/21/13 10:56 PM, Steve Smith wrote: S.M Stirling (Santa Fe based, prolific Science Fiction author) FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
I use Google voice as my main number. When I'm at my desktop in the office, I use the Google Chrome talk plugin and phone dialer app as my phone, both for incoming outgoing. I have Google voice set up to ring other phones, like my cell, so I give out my Google voice number as my mobile. This is handy for when I happen to be somewhere where I don't have enough bandwidth to use the GrooveIP voip Android app to receive calls; the regular cell voice line rings me. Google voice is not perfect, but it's pretty damn good. Now that I've said something good about Google, let me reiterate that the part of Google that is responsible for the Nexus 4, and for Android for the Nexus are a lying bunch of bastards. There are thousands of complaints about broken wifi and bluetooth on the Nexus 4, but if you were to call the Google toll-free Device Support number right now, they'd still tell you that There are no known issues with the Nexus 4. Being evil. --Doug --Doug On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: After the great tales of Doug and Android/Nexus, and seeing sigs w/ GV numbers .. I thought I'd ask for those of us (not me yet) who use GV could give us a glimpse into that future. Just as Doug has taken the phone to its logical conclusion: Its the internet stupid sort of thing .. maybe we all ought to think about GV and internet-only (data-only) services. In other words .. how close _are_ we to data-only services for phone, TV, etc? I finally switched from DSL to Cable, urged on by the idea of data-only TV, landline and so on (thanks Gil). Speed test (http://www.speedtest.net/) showed seriously shocking differences between DSD Cable: *ping ms down Mbps up **Mbps* *DSL: 69 1.470.60* *Cable:43 35.325.73* So what _are_ our experiences with GV? Can we cut that cord? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.comsite can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
Doug: thanks, very clear. Couple of questions: - Is it pretty easy to setup and use? - If you give up your landline, can you transfer it to GV so you don't loose it? - How comfortable are you that Google will continue the service? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
Hey Owen, - GV is very easy to use, there is a talk plugin for the Chrome browser (implied: you have to use the Chrome browser) which provides a nice little phone dialer app. What I like about the app is that it is integrated with your Google contacts, so looking up somebody's number is slick. Also, the calls are crystal clear. Sometimes, rarely, a call will drop, but not often enough to be a major issue. - For the cell phone there is the GrooveIP Google voice Android app. I don't know if there is an IOS equivalent. - Don't know about transferring your landline number. Maybe you can do that. - I don't trust Google to not fuck this up. They are a huge dysfunctional rich-kid bully. Spoiled, too. Arrogant, as well. And tone deaf to the concept of customer (referring now to their paying customers, as compared to people how use their free stuff, although they seem pretty tone deaf to folks using their free stuff as well.) --Doug On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Doug: thanks, very clear. Couple of questions: - Is it pretty easy to setup and use? - If you give up your landline, can you transfer it to GV so you don't loose it? - How comfortable are you that Google will continue the service? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
eMail Services like Constant Contact use this kind of technique to track email openings. Robert C On 3/22/13 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.com http://yesware.com site can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
Google Voice is living on borrowed time. If the Guardian's analysis is correct (linkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/mar/22/google-keep-services-closed?INTCMP=SRCH), we could have expected Google to kill it off about two weeks ago on 3/9/2013. But until they do, I'll carry on using it for my 2¢ per minute calls to the UK. —R FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
One could argue that Google Voice has become a core service, like email, from which they reap information harvested from its users. I'd surprised if it were not a growing service, given the continued growth of the mobile industry. --Doug On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Bingo: this was my concern, that GV would go the way of Reader. But if it's easy to transfer to another VoIP service, then having Google abandon GV would be less a blow, but certainly a hassle. -- Owen On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@robertholmes.orgwrote: Google Voice is living on borrowed time. If the Guardian's analysis is correct (linkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/mar/22/google-keep-services-closed?INTCMP=SRCH), we could have expected Google to kill it off about two weeks ago on 3/9/2013. But until they do, I'll carry on using it for my 2¢ per minute calls to the UK. —R FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
Owen,I'm looking at doing something similar.Evidently you have to transfer your land line to a cell # first, then you can transfer that to GV.Go figure.-Jim Original Message Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net Date: Fri, March 22, 2013 10:34 am To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Doug: thanks, very clear.Couple of questions:- Is it pretty easy to setup and use? - If you give up your landline, can you transfer it to GV so you don't loose it?- How comfortable are you that Google will continue the service? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
That's what I'd expect as well. It is such a useful service that even cheapskates like me would pay for it. But don't tell those bastards at Google I said so. --Doug On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote: The free US long distance service associated with Google Voice is a bonus feature that's been extended each year, but could go to a paid model any year now. -- rec -- On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: One could argue that Google Voice has become a core service, like email, from which they reap information harvested from its users. I'd surprised if it were not a growing service, given the continued growth of the mobile industry. --Doug On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Bingo: this was my concern, that GV would go the way of Reader. But if it's easy to transfer to another VoIP service, then having Google abandon GV would be less a blow, but certainly a hassle. -- Owen On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@robertholmes.org wrote: Google Voice is living on borrowed time. If the Guardian's analysis is correct (linkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/mar/22/google-keep-services-closed?INTCMP=SRCH), we could have expected Google to kill it off about two weeks ago on 3/9/2013. But until they do, I'll carry on using it for my 2¢ per minute calls to the UK. —R FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Google Voice
I moved my business number to GV over a year ago... it rings through to my cell unless my cell is off, out of range or I deliberately stop forwarding it temporarily. It instead then fields my voicemail which it (attempts to) transcribe into both e-mail and text for my cell. My house is in uber-marginal cell range and even with the Wilson Electronics repeater I set up, sometimes (atmospheric conditions, cell tower fluctuations, semis on the highway between me and the cell tower?) I only get enough signal for the phone to ring and/or text messages to sneak in/out but can't answer or call out effectively. (too) many of my driving areas are also marginal (as Guerin at least can attest) so a lot of my cell calls are a parody of can you hear me now?. This mostly works for me as I *rarely* want to talk to anyone real-time anyway... I'd rather get the indication they had called, maybe even field their question/statement and then e-mail, text or (occasionally) call them back with an answer or a followup. Most of my family, friends, colleagues *also* prefer e-mail/text to phone. I have 2-3 people who I know I can call and they will pick up (albeit after screening caller ID), depending on the time of day... these are in fact the few people I actually *want* to talk to real time. For these calls I make sure I am somewhere with good cell coverage. Awkward since that doesn't include *home*. I don't use GV to answer or call out... I'm not sure why, I guess because I was already used to using Skype for this which is somewhere between free and cheap. I used Skype very effectively for international calling for 3 weeks this summer while I was in Europe... as long as I had good WiFi I was amazed at the ease/quality... I think I spent less than $20 on Skype charges the entire time... the only thing they couldn't fix was time-zone skew... oh well! I have used Skype (and Viber) to call out on my mobile as well, but generally if I have the WiFi to do that I also have the GSM and on an unlimited voice/text plan that is just fine. The biggest problem I have with this setup is that when *calling* people there is no way to make the caller ID reflect my GV number, but rather whatever cell number I have at the time. I'm on my second one since I switched (juggling T-mo against ATT) and it is confusing to some people who don't recognize my new(er) number yet... but as I expect with them, I just leave a message or shoot them a txt and wait for them to get back to ME, possibly on another band. We are definitely in a communication inversion right now with things changing chaotically or at least dramatically all the time. Neither of my daughters has had a land line in years, my mother is now on a cell phone, my wife doesn't answer *any* phones anyway, and I dropped *my* office landline a while back then my home landline just a few months ago. If GV goes away, I'm not precisely sure what I will do in response... I haven't surveyed the options for my style of use. It is the centralized routing, voicemail and transcription that I enjoy. And I'm ashamed to admit, the price... free for basic services very cheap for the few calls I make out from it. My Calvanist background makes me feel that I shouldn't expect anything for free and I should certainly not bitch about it if it isn't up to my expectation (see Gift Horse) and should expect there to be a hidden hook (think Google mining/assembling my personal information and using/selling it) somewhere. - Steve Hey Owen, - GV is very easy to use, there is a talk plugin for the Chrome browser (implied: you have to use the Chrome browser) which provides a nice little phone dialer app. What I like about the app is that it is integrated with your Google contacts, so looking up somebody's number is slick. Also, the calls are crystal clear. Sometimes, rarely, a call will drop, but not often enough to be a major issue. - For the cell phone there is the GrooveIP Google voice Android app. I don't know if there is an IOS equivalent. - Don't know about transferring your landline number. Maybe you can do that. - I don't trust Google to not fuck this up. They are a huge dysfunctional rich-kid bully. Spoiled, too. Arrogant, as well. And tone deaf to the concept of customer (referring now to their paying customers, as compared to people how use their free stuff, although they seem pretty tone deaf to folks using their free stuff as well.) --Doug On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net mailto:o...@backspaces.net wrote: Doug: thanks, very clear. Couple of questions: - Is it pretty easy to setup and use? - If you give up your landline, can you transfer it to GV so you don't loose it? - How comfortable are you that Google will continue the service? -- Owen FRIAM Applied
Re: [FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
Shouldn't be there for formating reasons CSS javascript and PHP should handle placement of elements on a page just fine without the need of a 1px big item. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.com site can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Yet Another, Tower of Babel, Cambrian Explosion
I don't do much web development, but it seems to me that it would be better to treat HTML/CSS (and maybe even JavaScript) as the assembly language of the web. Let the browser digest it, humans shouldn't have to look at that cruft. Write your web content in whatever you're comfortable with (Python, JavaScript. and dare I say it - Lisp or Clojure), and have whatever web server/plugin you deploy to do the translation. If the web hosting service doesn't accommodate your preferred language, then find another web hosting service. Of course, some web content is already this way - most people who use WordPress or Blogger don't end up writing that much HTML - they use a GUI builder to customize it, and/or change its appearance with themes. ;; Gary On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Well, here's the puzzler for me: Why is CSS an entirely different syntax than JSON or even HTML? Fail! I guess Sass/Less may get close, as well as CoffeeKup http://coffeekup.org/ which just sez: WTF, lets just mash them all up, no prob. I would like a markdown equivalent to CSS. Seriously. Could anyone think about it a bit and suggest how it'd go? JSON is the closest I can get. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
Most mail clients make displaying remote images in HTML optional. I never display images automatically; if I trust the sender, I can click Show images button that mail.app puts up. These invisible images mean that the sender's server server gets hit every time one of their emails gets opened (unless you've set the option correctly). You can bet that the two 40-character 'folder names' encode your email address in some way. I would hope that if they never get a ping back from me that they would conclude that my spam filter is swallowing it and take me off their list. I know, I know, but I can dream. --Barry On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.com site can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
Our concern here is that one of our members may have had his mail client hacked or his mail path may be compromised. Naturally its best .. although annoying .. to turn off images. We would not have found this otherwise. I'll be contacting folks who appear to have this problem. -- Owen On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote: Most mail clients make displaying remote images in HTML optional. I never display images automatically; if I trust the sender, I can click Show images button that mail.app puts up. These invisible images mean that the sender's server server gets hit every time one of their emails gets opened (unless you've set the option correctly). You can bet that the two 40-character 'folder names' encode your email address in some way. I would hope that if they never get a ping back from me that they would conclude that my spam filter is swallowing it and take me off their list. I know, I know, but I can dream. --Barry On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.com site can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
Not always. You can use a 1px image, re-sized on the client using CSS to any arbitrary size, as the basis for an image map so that various areas and polygon-sized regions on the page become clickable. Far more efficient than transmitting a full size image over the wire. -- Ron Newman, Founder MyIdeatree.com http://www.ideatree.us/ The World Happiness Meter http://worldhappinessmeter.com/ On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote: Shouldn't be there for formating reasons CSS javascript and PHP should handle placement of elements on a page just fine without the need of a 1px big item. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.com site can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?
Hi Steve, So that's pretty adventurous in 1991 -- as an Net participant since December 1995, after doing AOL and Prodigy and local bulletin boards, I appreciate the fabulous progress since, which is accelerating, from what I see every day on summaries from Phys.org Newsletter -- no genius left behind -- Here's one of my longer toxicity alerts, tossed into the global fray last night: Table 5.2 is the key chart -- ADH1 enzyme at high levels in 20 tissues in body and fetus makes methanol into formaldehyde right inside cells, initiating over 20 human diseases, with full text references, WC Monte paradigm: Rich Murray 2013.03.21 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2013/03/table-52-is-key-chart-adh1-enzyme-at.html [ See also:, http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/13/unlabeled-aspartame-use.aspx# 2013.03.13 292,095 visits in a week ] [ welcome to a scientific bouquet -- some tasty dishes are presented twice... ] A liter of diet drink gives the same methanol (wood alcohol) as the smoke from a pack of cigarettes, 60 mg -- methanol has a half-life in the human bloodstream of 3 hours, showing that its elimination is slow, while it reaches every part of the body and the fetus every minute. Methanol is actually less toxic than ethanol, except when it goes easily into cells that also happen to have high levels of free floating ADH1 enzyme, in 19 specific human tissues, including inner walls of blood vessels in the brain and eye, as well as in the rods and cones of the retina -- the methanol is made quickly into free floating formaldehyde inside these cells, where it naturally wrecks havoc, interfering with all biochemistry, just as in its well known uses for embalming and sterilizing medical tools. The resulting stew of formaldehyde modified proteins activates the inflammation process of the immune system, producing complex evolving pussy lesions -- brain in Alzheimer's and multiple sclerosis, inner walls of blood vessels in atherosclerosis, skin fibroblasts in lupus, pancreas in diabetes 2, retina in macular degeneration, joint fibroblasts in rheumatoid arthritis... Methylation of DNA and RNA leads to cell dysfunction and death, many later cancers, and birth defects, spina bifida, autism, preterm birth, Fetal Alcohol Sydrome. Two key ATP enzymes are impaired in mitochrondria, shutting down aerobic energy metabolism, leading to reduced metabolism and anaerobic buildup of lactic acid, resulting in acidosis. [ much more... ] within the fellowship of service, Rich On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Jean-Baptiste Quéru's (accurate and complete to my study) description of the details (down to the physical layer) of what happens when you go to Google's homepage reminds me of how, roughly 22 years ago, at LANL: long-winded technical anecdote We wrote a simple PERL script to act as a daemon (a program running all the time, listening on a logical port (conventionally 80) on the network) to field this new thing called the Hyper Text Transfer Protocol.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Human Intervention As a Competitive Advantage
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