Re: [FRIAM] Anyone on Friam know Linux capabilities on Pentium PCs ?

[Roger Critchlow]

I would expect that it should be able to do it.

It should also be able to produce a log of all keystrokes and mouse events
received and processed.

An audit laptop would be able to independently sniff the keystroke and
mouse events off the LAN and verify that the log from the test scoring
machine matches the events sent by the test taker machines.  It could also
detect interference on the LAN during the test session.

-- rec --

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:46 AM Sarbajit Roy  wrote:

> Thanks Gary
>
> The question is this -- "Can a Pentium server at 1.5 GhZ with 4 GB RAM
> running a proprietary Linux OS service 125 PCs on a LAN during an a
> competitive exam and *very reliably* record every keystroke and mouse
> click of each  of these 125 examinees. The same server is simultaneously
> also disiplaying a unique exam on screen for each examinee where the
> sequence of questions is jumbled and the answer options are jumbled for
> each examinee.
>
> I am being flooded just now with complaints of a recent very prestigious
> online exam in India where candidates all over India are saying their
> answers have not been properly recorded. This is not the first time
> similar complaints have come for this exam.
>
> Also these local servers usually run Windows, but for this exam the exam
> vendor loads his proprietary Linux OS as a dual boot along with his own
> application software.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:52 PM Gary Schiltz 
> wrote:
>
>> Just my opinion, but I believe Linux is generally well suited for any
>> server task. Especially on older and slower hardware
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:42 AM Sarbajit Roy  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friamers
>>>
>>> Can any guide me if a Pentium PC server at 1,.5 GhZ with 4 GB RAM on a
>>> Linux version is capable of doing a certain task very reliably ?
>>>
>>> As it is a confidential thing, please message me directly.  I have to
>>> ask as I don't use Linux.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Sarbajit Roy
>>> New Delhi India
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] TruthGPT

[Jochen Fromm]

yes, well said.-J.
 Original message From: Steve Smith  Date: 
4/19/23  11:36 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee 
Group  Subject: [FRIAM] TruthGPT 
I was modestly impressed when Musk helped to get OpenAI formed
  and try to be "righteous" with it's charter back in 201x?  But the
  way *IT* went was disappointing and Musk's response with
  "TRUTHGPT!" is it's own brand of (I should not be surprised?)
  disappointment.


  https://truthgpt.gitbook.io/truthgpt-whitepaper/truthgpt/our-story

This whole business reads like something Donald Trump would do?
I'd like to claim that you "can't brand Truth" but these two
  jokers do seem to think they can?

  

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

You can still get a voice number. For what it's worth. But they changed it
from a true seperate number to glorified call forwarding. -_-.. When I used
it's call screen feature people that wanted to call me. Would read me the
riot act (looking at you kim) And scam callers would get through to my land
line eventually anyway.  Among the worst offenders are debt collectors. I
don't have any. (not that I know of) but once in a while I'll get smashed
for hours on end from the same leach. I don't answer. And pretty quickly
one of my  blocking apps will block them.  For a while because I was in a
mood, I had one set up to randomly pick from: the infamous I am lucutus of
borg sound clip, the loudestset of horns I could find, a high pitched
whistle, them talking at themselves, and my favorite: a oldschool modem
dial tone. The hight of hilarity getting a scam email saying to stop stop
stop we give up! And then being disturbed to wonder how they got my email
address even if it went to spam.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 12:56 PM glen  wrote:

> Well, I'm not sure if you can still get a Google Voice number. But I just
> now added my landline as the "linked number" in my Google Voice account.
> And it now forwards there, screens calls, etc. So it's still there. Of
> course Google will/does kill things arbitrarily.
>
> On 4/19/23 08:37, Russ Abbott wrote:
> > I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples
> of
> > voices to train its systems and needs no more.
> >
> > It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
> > into a call blocker.
> >
> > - Have the phone answer on the first ring.
> > - Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
> > system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if
> no one
> > answers, they should continue with their message.
> > - When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
> > listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.
> >
> > Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
> > themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to
> answer.
> >
> > -- Russ
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  wrote:
> >
> >> You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number
> like
> >> Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be
> able to
> >> pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of
> >> options.
> >>
> >> Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a
> >> phone book ... do people still use phone books?
> >>
> >> On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> >>> I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our
> >> land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely,
> but
> >> about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he
> was
> >> in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land
> >> line number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and
> his
> >> caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We
> might
> >> not have reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I
> had
> >> been trying to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming
> >> 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
> >>>
> >>
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> >>
> >> I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples
> of voices to train its systems and needs no more.
> >>
> >> It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
> into a call blocker.
> >>
> >>   * Have the phone answer on the first ring.
> >>   * Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
> system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one
> answers, they should continue with their message.
> >>   * When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
> listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.
> >>
> >> Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
> themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.
> >>
> >> __-- Russ
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual
> number like Google Voice. Then o

Re: [FRIAM] TruthGPT

[glen]

BOOM! 8^D Well done.

On 4/19/23 14:39, David Eric Smith wrote:

Well at least it was written by a person.  ChatGPT would have used valid syntax 
in the first sentence.


On Apr 20, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:

I was modestly impressed when Musk helped to get OpenAI formed and try to be "righteous" 
with it's charter back in 201x?  But the way *IT* went was disappointing and Musk's response with 
"TRUTHGPT!" is it's own brand of (I should not be surprised?) disappointment.

https://truthgpt.gitbook.io/truthgpt-whitepaper/truthgpt/our-story

This whole business reads like something Donald Trump would do?

I'd like to claim that you "can't brand Truth" but these two jokers do seem to 
think they can?



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Re: [FRIAM] TruthGPT

[David Eric Smith]

Well at least it was written by a person.  ChatGPT would have used valid syntax 
in the first sentence.

> On Apr 20, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:
> 
> I was modestly impressed when Musk helped to get OpenAI formed and try to be 
> "righteous" with it's charter back in 201x?  But the way *IT* went was 
> disappointing and Musk's response with "TRUTHGPT!" is it's own brand of (I 
> should not be surprised?) disappointment.
> 
> https://truthgpt.gitbook.io/truthgpt-whitepaper/truthgpt/our-story 
> 
> This whole business reads like something Donald Trump would do?
> 
> I'd like to claim that you "can't brand Truth" but these two jokers do seem 
> to think they can?
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[FRIAM] TruthGPT

[Steve Smith]

I was modestly impressed when Musk helped to get OpenAI formed and try 
to be "righteous" with it's charter back in 201x?  But the way *IT* went 
was disappointing and Musk's response with "TRUTHGPT!" is it's own brand 
of (I should not be surprised?) disappointment.


   https://truthgpt.gitbook.io/truthgpt-whitepaper/truthgpt/our-story

This whole business reads like something Donald Trump would do?

I'd like to claim that you "can't brand Truth" but these two jokers do 
seem to think they can?
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Re: [FRIAM] Book Lovers of Santa FE

[Steve Smith]

We got the word that Peggy Frank found someone to carry Book Mountain 
forward...   a couple already working in the bookstores of Santa Fe for 
years...   Lauren Ayles? and Phil Geronimo... also poets/writers.


Even though they are nominally a "paperback exchange", their inventory 
has grown to include a lot of quality non-fiction, especially since they 
moved down the street a few years ago.  I get the feeling that Lauren 
and Phil will probably move them even more in that direction as time 
goes forward.


Our credit there is well above what we could spend down responsibly 
(without filling our house again) and will likely donate the bulk of it, 
we were honestly just glad to have someone make sure the thousands of 
books we brought them last year (thousands more to other stores in SFe 
as well) aren't going to a pulp mill or landfill.


If anyone here still reads paper, go on in and check them out!

   http://bookmountainsantafe.com/

On 3/1/23 5:55 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
Seems I missed a trick (or two) again... Peggy apparently started 
looking to be bought-out/partnered over 6 months ago and it is only 
now (after an acute health challenge?) that she seems to be on a 
mission to sell or shutter in short order.


I'm futzing around with examples of people who have used GoFundMe 
programs to rescue bookstores (financially) and it looks like some of 
those were resounding successes.   The key here is probably as much 
finding someone(s) willing and able to manage such a store, even if 
funds for it get raised.  I have no idea of the magnitude of what she 
needs to be released from this obligation she built over 40+ years.


https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/queen-of-book-mountain-writing-lifes-last-chapter/article_fc4ede6e-0ce4-11ed-b550-f774b8b7aed5.html 



On 3/1/23 3:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
I was just in Book Mountain which has been operating in SFe primarily 
as a paperback exchange since 1980 (just before I moved to the area) 
and discovered that the owner, Peggy Frank intends to shut down, 
probably sooner rather than later.  Here is an article about her move 
and rejuvenation of the store a couple of years ago:


https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/business/book-mountain-alive-and-well-in-new-location/article_9003513a-3c8b-11ea-a81e-373351759896.html 



The new digs and layout were a modest upgrade from what she had going 
before, and has a somewhat wider range of books shelved now, though 
the emphasis is still on high-turnover paperback. She has one of the 
most extensive collections of Science Fiction I think you fill find 
this side of Powells (Portland) or Tattered Cover (Denver).


I probably unloaded 1/4 of my "2 cords of books" leftover from *my* 
bookstore (Hunt and Gather circa 2006) on her for trade (my credit is 
much too large to begin to drain in the short term).


What I am hoping is that one of her customers or someone in the book 
loving circle would swoop in and buy it outright.   I have already 
talked to some of the other booksellers in town and she has already 
approached them offering to sell them her inventory, but the ideal 
would be for it to remain a viable business.  Her current 
setup/inventory/curation works and is by far more valuable than the 
mere inventory (which would need to be sorted, shelved, etc. again).


If anyone here knows of anyone suitable for taking on such an 
operation I highly recommend it, but I suspect the time is short. 
Peggy is just coming out of some health-challenges and I sense she 
will not be willing/able to wait very long.    I am holding out a 
slim hope that one of the other used-sellers in SFe might pick it up 
as a satellite (Op Cit already has had multiple locations).


In any case, spread the word if you can.   Maybe there is a coop 
model or multiple-partner arrangement that might keep it going and 
help Peggy leave the business cleanly/gracefully.


- Steve




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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[glen]

Well, I'm not sure if you can still get a Google Voice number. But I just now added my 
landline as the "linked number" in my Google Voice account. And it now forwards 
there, screens calls, etc. So it's still there. Of course Google will/does kill things 
arbitrarily.

On 4/19/23 08:37, Russ Abbott wrote:

I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples of
voices to train its systems and needs no more.

It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
into a call blocker.

- Have the phone answer on the first ring.
- Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one
answers, they should continue with their message.
- When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.

Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.

-- Russ


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  wrote:


You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like
Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to
pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of
options.

Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a
phone book ... do people still use phone books?

On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:

I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our

land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but
about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was
in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land
line number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his
caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might
not have reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had
been trying to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming
60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.




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I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples of 
voices to train its systems and needs no more.

It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID into a 
call blocker.

  * Have the phone answer on the first ring.
  * Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail system. 
Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one answers, they 
should continue with their message.
  * When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and listen to 
the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.

Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying themselves or 
identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.

__-- Russ


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like 
Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to 
pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of options.

Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a 
phone book ... do people still use phone books?

On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our 
land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but about 
six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was in Santa Fe, 
which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land line number and I just 
happened to be around when his call came in, and his caller id was announced by 
voice bot that lives in our land line. We might not have reconnected had I 
discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had been trying to get his number — we 
were both thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York 
Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Anyone on Friam know Linux capabilities on Pentium PCs ?

[Sarbajit Roy]

Thanks Gary

The question is this -- "Can a Pentium server at 1.5 GhZ with 4 GB RAM
running a proprietary Linux OS service 125 PCs on a LAN during an a
competitive exam and *very reliably* record every keystroke and mouse click
of each  of these 125 examinees. The same server is simultaneously also
disiplaying a unique exam on screen for each examinee where the sequence of
questions is jumbled and the answer options are jumbled for each examinee.

I am being flooded just now with complaints of a recent very prestigious
online exam in India where candidates all over India are saying their
answers have not been properly recorded. This is not the first time
similar complaints have come for this exam.

Also these local servers usually run Windows, but for this exam the exam
vendor loads his proprietary Linux OS as a dual boot along with his own
application software.

Sarbajit

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:52 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> Just my opinion, but I believe Linux is generally well suited for any
> server task. Especially on older and slower hardware
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:42 AM Sarbajit Roy  wrote:
>
>> Hi Friamers
>>
>> Can any guide me if a Pentium PC server at 1,.5 GhZ with 4 GB RAM on a
>> Linux version is capable of doing a certain task very reliably ?
>>
>> As it is a confidential thing, please message me directly.  I have to ask
>> as I don't use Linux.
>>
>> regards
>>
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>> New Delhi India
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Re: [FRIAM] Anyone on Friam know Linux capabilities on Pentium PCs ?

[Gary Schiltz]

Just my opinion, but I believe Linux is generally well suited for any
server task. Especially on older and slower hardware

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:42 AM Sarbajit Roy  wrote:

> Hi Friamers
>
> Can any guide me if a Pentium PC server at 1,.5 GhZ with 4 GB RAM on a
> Linux version is capable of doing a certain task very reliably ?
>
> As it is a confidential thing, please message me directly.  I have to ask
> as I don't use Linux.
>
> regards
>
> Sarbajit Roy
> New Delhi India
>
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[FRIAM] Anyone on Friam know Linux capabilities on Pentium PCs ?

[Sarbajit Roy]

Hi Friamers

Can any guide me if a Pentium PC server at 1,.5 GhZ with 4 GB RAM on a
Linux version is capable of doing a certain task very reliably ?

As it is a confidential thing, please message me directly.  I have to ask
as I don't use Linux.

regards

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Russ Abbott]

I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples of
voices to train its systems and needs no more.

It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
into a call blocker.

   - Have the phone answer on the first ring.
   - Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
   system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one
   answers, they should continue with their message.
   - When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
   listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.

Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.

-- Russ


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  wrote:

> You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like
> Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to
> pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of
> options.
>
> Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a
> phone book ... do people still use phone books?
>
> On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> > I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our
> land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but
> about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was
> in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land
> line number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his
> caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might
> not have reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had
> been trying to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming
> 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
> >
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[glen]

You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like 
Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to 
pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of options.

Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a phone 
book ... do people still use phone books?

On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:

I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our land 
line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but about 
six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was in Santa 
Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land line number and 
I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his caller id was 
announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might not have 
reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had been trying to 
get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary of 
our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.



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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Angel Edward]

Nomorobo works pretty well on our landline. Free with comcast.

Ed
__

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> On Apr 19, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Barry MacKichan  
> wrote:
> 
> I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our land 
> line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but about 
> six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was in 
> Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land line 
> number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his caller 
> id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might not have 
> reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had been trying 
> to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary 
> of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
> 
> —Barry
> 
> On 18 Apr 2023, at 15:23, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> 
> My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I have the 
> choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If I select 
> "Screen" the caller hears 
> 
> "Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.  Please 
> say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will get a 
> recording and transcript of what you say."
> 
> Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.
> 
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, 
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
> 
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson  > wrote:
> Phellow Phriammers, 
> 
> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some medical 
> troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker recommended by my 
> carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in daily, although 
>  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, pressing that big red 
> block button is very satisfying.  It also has a mass-blocking function for 
> voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller calls,and any area code 
> you take a dislike to. 
>  Still I have questions. 
> 
> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device? 
> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
> 3.  Is it working for you?
> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share? 
> 
> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full 
> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He replied 
> that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the number of 
> any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.  
> 
> Nick 
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Barry MacKichan]

I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for 
our land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it 
entirely, but about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked 
us up when he was in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. 
He found our land line number and I just happened to be around when his 
call came in, and his caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in 
our land line. We might not have reconnected had I discontinued the land 
line. TBH, though, I had been trying to get his number — we were both 
thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York 
Factory on Hudson’s Bay.


—Barry

On 18 Apr 2023, at 15:23, Frank Wimberly wrote:

My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I 
have
the choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If 
I

select "Screen" the caller hears

"Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.
Please say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will 
get a

recording and transcript of what you say."

Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 


wrote:


Phellow Phriammers,

After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some 
medical
troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker 
recommended by
my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in 
daily,
although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, 
pressing
that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a 
mass-blocking

function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller
calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
 Still I have questions.

1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
3.  Is it working for you?
4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?

I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  
Apparently the

number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.

Nick

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Frank Wimberly]

Android Pixel cell phone.  It's nice to hear your voice, Nick.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:50 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> Frank
>
> Landline? Or have you given up on that old stuff.
>
> n
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 1:24 PM Frank Wimberly 
> wrote:
>
>> My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I have
>> the choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If I
>> select "Screen" the caller hears
>>
>> "Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.
>> Please say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will get a
>> recording and transcript of what you say."
>>
>> Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.
>>
>> ---
>> Frank C. Wimberly
>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>
>> 505 670-9918
>> Santa Fe, NM
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Phellow Phriammers,
>>>
>>> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some
>>> medical troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker
>>> recommended by my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones
>>> come in daily, although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to
>>> say, pressing that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a
>>> mass-blocking function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private
>>> caller calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
>>>  Still I have questions.
>>>
>>> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
>>> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
>>> 3.  Is it working for you?
>>> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?
>>>
>>> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
>>> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
>>> replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the
>>> number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.
>>>
>>> Nick
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