Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: Legal Risks to Creative Innovation and Research at College: NJ Drops Its Investigation of MIT Students

2015-05-30 Thread Marcus Daniels
Gary writes:

[..] the bigger issue is whether running my software on a users’ computer, for 
my benefit, and without that user’s knowledge and consent, amounts to stealing. 


Advertisements waste bandwidth, and JavaScript in advertisements or animated 
GIFs are in some sense stealing CPU cycles.  This was supposed to be 
alternative to advertisements.   I can understand why it would infuriate MIT, 
given these kids hacked out this impressive capability in 2 days, and their 
reward for their efforts is to get this incoherent subpoena. In the URL 
below, they don't exactly strike me as hardened criminals..

http://nodeknockout.com/teams/shoop-team

Marcus


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[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: Legal Risks to Creative Innovation and Research at College: NJ Drops Its Investigation of MIT Students

2015-05-29 Thread Gary Schiltz
I hadn’t read anything about the case, but it does seem interesting.
Apparently the reason the case was brought was for alleged violation
of privacy, but for me, the bigger issue is whether running my
software on a users’ computer, for my benefit, and without that user’s
knowledge and consent, amounts to stealing. Kind of like jumping in
the back of someone’s pickup without their knowledge and consent and
riding to the next town insteading of paying for a bus, cab, or
gasoline in my own car. Or “stowing away” on a ship. In either case,
the price is small (a few extra CPU cycles and fan speed in one case,
a little bit more gasoline usage in the other).Trying to enforce such
a thing legally seems like a big ol’ can o’ worms that I wouldn’t be
in favor of, but it does bring up ethical questions.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote:
 'Eighteen months after winning a hackathon innovation prize for a clever
 idea of a new online content business model, the MIT undergraduates who
 created Tidbit are finally free from the legal nightmare attracted by their
 proof of concept. Earlier this week, the New Jersey Attorney General dropped
 their investigation of the students, ending a case that hung over these
 students for a third of their undergraduate education. I'm incredibly
 relieved for the Tidbit undergrads, though I'm disappointed and upset that
 they had to face this legal challenge for so long.'
 See http://bit.ly/1LRZj1L

 Hm, what was it Shakespeare had to say about lawyers?

 -TJ


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