Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Merle Lefkoff]

Thought you guys would be interested in this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/03/28/mass-surveillance-silences-minority-opinions-according-to-study/

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Merle Lefkoff 
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> From: Tom Johnson 
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> Subject: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and
> more — NOVA Next | PBS
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> Cc: Sandra Blakeslee , Steve Ross <
> editorst...@gmail.com>, George Johnson , Bryant Furlow
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>
> Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the phrase
> "...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  I
> wish we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be
> likely/possible.  Still, a good read.
>
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next
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Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Nick Thompson]

Hi, Tom, 

 

IN-teresting.  By far the most interesting way to disagree. Could you say a bit 
more about that?  

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

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http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Tom Johnson
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:59 AM
To: Steve Ross 
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; George Johnson ; Bryant Furlow 

Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and 
more — NOVA Next | PBS

 

Yes, I do question and suppose "... that a virus has other purposes or 
functions." 

 

TJ




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Indeed. 

 

As a Bostonian, I do note that being a science writer there is pure joy. Except 
maybe at the Christian Science Monitor.






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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Tom Johnson mailto:t...@jtjohnson.com> > wrote:

Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the phrase 
"...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  I wish 
we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be likely/possible.  
Still, a good read.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook
 
<http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next>
 &utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next

TJ

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Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Tom Johnson]

Yes, I do question and suppose "... that a virus has other purposes or
functions."

TJ



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On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Steve Ross  wrote:

> Indeed.
>
> As a Bostonian, I do note that being a science writer there is pure joy.
> Except maybe at the Christian Science Monitor.
>
>
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> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the phrase
>> "...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  I
>> wish we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be
>> likely/possible.  Still, a good read.
>>
>>
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next
>>
>> TJ
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Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Dean Gerber]

This takes some time, but is well worth it.  Try reading this first, then 
Toms's referenced article again.  Or wait for Bruce?
http://phages.org/

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On Friday, March 25, 2016 7:46 PM, Frank Wimberly  
wrote:
 

 If Bruce Simon is back next week, perhaps he can comment.Frank Wimberly
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(505) 670-9918Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the 
phrase "...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  
I wish we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be 
likely/possible.  Still, a good 
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Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Nick Thompson]

Tom, Frank, 

 

Well, OK, but until Bruce Simon responds, I guess I am the best you got.  

 

What puzzles me is how one could doubt such a statement.  Is it the attribution 
of “purpose” to a hunk of D[R]NA?  In that case, I agree, because viruses do 
not display the degree of variation to a common outcome that warrants the term 
“purpose”.  Many small creatures do, but not, I imagine, viruses.  

 

But usually, when people make such a statement, they are confounding “purpose”  
(that goal toward which an organism’s behavior is directed) with “function”, 
that outcome by which an organisms behavior (or structure) has been selected 
and/or for which it has been designed.  Allowing this confounding as slip of 
the tongue turns the statement into a truism.  

 

The only other possible objection to the statement I can imagine is one might 
suppose that a virus has other purposes or functions.  

 

Does this help? 

 

Affectionately

 

Your half-biologist, 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and 
more — NOVA Next | PBS

 

If Bruce Simon is back next week, perhaps he can comment.

Frank Wimberly
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(505) 670-9918  

Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the phrase 
"...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  I wish 
we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be likely/possible.  
Still, a good read.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook
 
<http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next>
 &utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next

TJ

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Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Frank Wimberly]

If Bruce Simon is back next week, perhaps he can comment.

Frank Wimberly
Phone
(505) 670-9918

Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the phrase
"...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  I
wish we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be
likely/possible.  Still, a good read.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next

TJ

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[FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

[Tom Johnson]

Fascinating and well-written story.  While I am dubious of the phrase
"...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  I
wish we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be
likely/possible.  Still, a good read.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/phage-alzheimers-cure/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=nova_next

TJ

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