Re: [FRIAM] re power lines

2008-06-04 Thread Don Begley

Great pics, Orlando.

WRT the EMF issue, those are at least 345kV power lines if not 500's,  
which is a long way from the emissions of consumer items or a  
residential power line. They are also pretty impressive links in a  
transmission grid, meaning there are lots of lines on each pole. I  
wouldn't want to live near or under any of them for any number of  
reasons, not the least of which is how noisy they'd be. g


-d-



On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Orlando Leibovitz wrote:

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peter wrote:


There is also an artist that does shows by planting a couple of  
hundred florescent tubes in the ground under high voltage lines and  
they all light up, its quite a sight, no wires. I will go find the  
photos


I have also got some nice shots taken at Crystal River Florida  
Power plant on a really humid day just before a rainstorm and you  
can see the arcs jumping 150' outside of the containment area


Maybe we can get Steve to do some Tesla demos at the complex be  
really great for July 4th and we wouldn't need any fireworks


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Re: [FRIAM] re power lines

2008-06-04 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Don Begley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great pics, Orlando.
 WRT the EMF issue, those are at least 345kV power lines if not 500's, which
 is a long way from the emissions of consumer items or a residential power
 line. They are also pretty impressive links in a transmission grid, meaning
 there are lots of lines on each pole. I wouldn't want to live near or under
 any of them for any number of reasons, not the least of which is how noisy
 they'd be. g

Orthogonal to the EMF and noise issues, the power companies tend to
maintain their rights of way with low bidder landscaping, so their
routes are often liberally, and sloppily, doused in herbicides.  That
won't light up any fluorescent bulbs, but it will make its own
contribution to the ambience of the neighborhood.

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Re: [FRIAM] re power lines

2008-06-04 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Don Begley wrote:
 WRT the EMF issue, those are at least 345kV power lines if not 500's, 
 which is a long way from the emissions of consumer items or a 
 residential power line.
Distance and time is what determines the actual exposure, and why 
electric blankets and other consumer items are comparable.

Here's a paper that gives analytical formulas for the calculation of 
multi-phase power.
It's not as simple as an inverse square law like from a broadcast point 
source, but there are still radius^2 terms in the denominator of the 
formula.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/61/4476461/04419949.pdf?tp=isnumber=arnumber=4419949

Marcus


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[FRIAM] re power lines

2008-06-03 Thread peter
There is also an artist that does shows by planting a couple of hundred 
florescent tubes in the ground under high voltage lines and they all 
light up, its quite a sight, no wires. I will go find the photos


I have also got some nice shots taken at Crystal River Florida Power 
plant on a really humid day just before a rainstorm and you can see the 
arcs jumping 150' outside of the containment area


Maybe we can get Steve to do some Tesla demos at the complex be really 
great for July 4th and we wouldn't need any fireworks


( : ( : pete
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Re: [FRIAM] re power lines

2008-06-03 Thread Orlando Leibovitz
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peter wrote:

There is also an artist that does shows by planting a couple of 
hundred florescent tubes in the ground under high voltage lines and 
they all light up, its quite a sight, no wires. I will go find the photos


I have also got some nice shots taken at Crystal River Florida Power 
plant on a really humid day just before a rainstorm and you can see 
the arcs jumping 150' outside of the containment area


Maybe we can get Steve to do some Tesla demos at the complex be really 
great for July 4th and we wouldn't need any fireworks


( : ( : pete
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