Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-26 Thread siddharth
Perhaps this is of some use -
http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/Using_Alternative_Therapies_JaLow.html

*Using Alternative Therapies: A Qualitative Analysis by Jacqueline Low
(Repost)*
Publisher: Canadian Scholars Press (May 1, 2004) | ISBN: 1551302640 |
Pages: 200 | PDF | 1.78 MB

This book provides a distinctive sociological inquiry into the perspectives
and social issues surrounding the use of alternative therapies. Dr. Low
presents the experiences of twenty-one Canadians who use alternative
approaches to health care. Her study foregrounds the lay perspective by
using a symbolic interactionist approach, which emphasises individuals' own
understanding of reality as a basis for their actions. Dr. Low analyses how
and why the participants in the study came to use alternative therapies;
the ideologies informing the models of health and healing they espouse; the
impact these beliefs have on them, and the implications of their
experiences for Canadian health care policy.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:


 Are there any sources for data that you recommend?  Keep in mind that I'm
 used to biological data.  I don't think my mind is closed to other types of
 data.  But I would expect something like blind experiments and
 statistically significant populations.  Etc.

 Feel free to tell me to RTFM. 8^)  I just figured you might be able to
 suggest a few sources off the top of your head.

 peggy miller wrote at 04/25/2012 09:26 AM:

  Speaking in defense of some alternatives, and as a Chinese/Ayurvedic
 Medicinal Herbalist, I so far in my practice am finding it to be highly
 useful as a medical alternative for everything from congestion to
 insomnia,
 tremors, memory loss, bowel problems, diabetic problems, fatigue,
 arthritis, nerve issues. I have yet to have a client with seizures, but it
 is supposed to help many cases of that nature. The research and validation
 on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes back millenium, with many
 cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how
 useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local
 Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy
 M.


 --
 glen

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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-26 Thread glen


Thanks very much!

Sarbajit Roy wrote at 04/25/2012 06:24 PM:

Insofar as Ayurvedic medicines go, these would be good starting
points.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297513/
http://www.ccimindia.org/

Informally, Ayurvedic (herbal) medicine works for low level
(common) ailments but perhaps not at the efficiency / success levels
of allopathic systems. They are best viewed as complementary
traditional treatments to allopathy with reduced/lower side effects
(for example treatments of the common cough / cold) .


siddharth wrote at 04/26/2012 03:46 AM:

Perhaps this is of some use -
http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/Using_Alternative_Therapies_JaLow.html

*Using Alternative Therapies: A Qualitative Analysis by Jacqueline
Low (Repost)* Publisher: Canadian Scholars Press (May 1, 2004) |
ISBN: 1551302640 | Pages: 200 | PDF | 1.78 MB

This book provides a distinctive sociological inquiry into the
perspectives and social issues surrounding the use of alternative
therapies. Dr. Low presents the experiences of twenty-one Canadians
who use alternative approaches to health care. Her study foregrounds
the lay perspective by using a symbolic interactionist approach,
which emphasises individuals' own understanding of reality as a basis
for their actions. Dr. Low analyses how and why the participants in
the study came to use alternative therapies; the ideologies informing
the models of health and healing they espouse; the impact these
beliefs have on them, and the implications of their experiences for
Canadian health care policy.



--
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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-25 Thread Arlo Barnes
You speak to statistical support of at least an anecdotal nature with

 The research and validation on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes
 back millenium, with many cases.

But I would be curious about what mechanistic explanations have been
offered for the effectiveness/efficacy of specific treatments, and what
support each one has. I will accept any medicine that has a well-supported
mechanism for function, regardless of whether it is 'alternative' or not
(what a silly term, of course each treatment is an alternative to every
other treatment meant to address the same condition. As to how well each
addresses it, the proof is in the pudding).
-Arlo James Barnes

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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-25 Thread glen


Are there any sources for data that you recommend?  Keep in mind that 
I'm used to biological data.  I don't think my mind is closed to other 
types of data.  But I would expect something like blind experiments and 
statistically significant populations.  Etc.


Feel free to tell me to RTFM. 8^)  I just figured you might be able to 
suggest a few sources off the top of your head.


peggy miller wrote at 04/25/2012 09:26 AM:

Speaking in defense of some alternatives, and as a Chinese/Ayurvedic
Medicinal Herbalist, I so far in my practice am finding it to be highly
useful as a medical alternative for everything from congestion to insomnia,
tremors, memory loss, bowel problems, diabetic problems, fatigue,
arthritis, nerve issues. I have yet to have a client with seizures, but it
is supposed to help many cases of that nature. The research and validation
on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes back millenium, with many
cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how
useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local
Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy M.


--
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Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-25 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Glen

Insofar as Ayurvedic medicines go, these would be good starting points.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297513/
http://www.ccimindia.org/

Informally, Ayurvedic (herbal) medicine works for low level (common)
ailments but perhaps not at the efficiency / success levels of
allopathic systems. They are best viewed as complementary traditional
treatments to allopathy with reduced/lower side effects (for example
treatments of the common cough / cold) .

Sarbajit

On 4/26/12, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:

 Are there any sources for data that you recommend?  Keep in mind that
 I'm used to biological data.  I don't think my mind is closed to other
 types of data.  But I would expect something like blind experiments and
 statistically significant populations.  Etc.

 Feel free to tell me to RTFM. 8^)  I just figured you might be able to
 suggest a few sources off the top of your head.

 peggy miller wrote at 04/25/2012 09:26 AM:
 Speaking in defense of some alternatives, and as a Chinese/Ayurvedic
 Medicinal Herbalist, I so far in my practice am finding it to be highly
 useful as a medical alternative for everything from congestion to
 insomnia,
 tremors, memory loss, bowel problems, diabetic problems, fatigue,
 arthritis, nerve issues. I have yet to have a client with seizures, but
 it
 is supposed to help many cases of that nature. The research and
 validation
 on both Chinese and Ayurvedic Medicine goes back millenium, with many
 cases. But I, being somewhat skeptical, continue to be surprised by how
 useful it is as I practice it with clients. I urge you all to try a local
 Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. You may find it surprising. Peggy
 M.

 --
 glen

 
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