Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-15 Thread James Eaton-Lee
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 12:24 -0800, Bart Lansing wrote:
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> Y'know...I usually take what you have to say with a grain of
> salt...and maybe a few grains of pain killer...and let it go, but
> enough already.  "If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet
> to sent your packets on right now"??
> 
> There have been a few individuals whose contributions to this list
> struck me as being of questionable worth, but you are the first I
> have felt the need to expend the trivial efforts to filter.
> Congratulations and goodbye.

On a sort of side point, I've recently started using the highlight
feature in evolution to apply colours to incoming mail where the
'sender' matches certain criteria - doing this lets me assign a pleasant
(but obvious) colour to people I know and/or whose postings are
interesting (respectively red and redorange), and a vile colour to those
whose postings are silly/downright stupid (respectively forest green and
lime green).

Doing this, I've found, gives me a great indicator as to the qualities
of a thread - a large amount of either colour clearly indicates the
general tone of the thread (and a large amount of both tends to indicate
a 'hot topic'). Suffice it to say that unless looking for a comedy
moment in my afternoon, I tend to ignore those putrid green threads and
head straight for a red.

Particularly for high-volume lists like this one and security basics, I
find that this method pays dividends!

 - James.

> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:39 -0800 n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Yet another fuckwit basing their opinion on someone they don't
> >know.
> >If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your
> >packets
> >on right now. You take people at face value instead of getting to
> >know
> >them first.
> >
> >Read my research paper on Hackers Today and you might learn
> >something.
> >
> >


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Win XP 64 bit [ was RE: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough... ]

2005-11-14 Thread Aditya Deshmukh
> Offtopic: Is the 64bit version of Windows XP 
> worth getting? My gf just bought a new Compaq 
> with a 64bit Turion in it, and it came with the 
> regular XP Home. She's debating whether or not 
> to buy the 64bit version, and I'm of no help 
> since I don't really use Windows on any of my 
> machines except for testing stuff.

It would be great to have a 64 bit version just for 
The enhanced internet explorer - if you don't have 
Mozilla. 

Also pop from my head stack... 
Sony rootkit didn't work for 64 bit for some reason 
So it might be more secure...

Before getting it make sure that you find the 64 bit 
drivers for everything first. 





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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Technica Forensis
On 11/14/05, Samuel Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://forum.crime-research.org/teech-me-how-to-hack-vt6.html?highlight=
>
> "I'm I want to become a hacker. By the way, whats "netbus"?"
> Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:30 pm
>
> http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/about.html
>
> "Extensive on hands hacker scene experience (6+ years) (Knowing your enemy)"

My favorite is http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/questions.html

Questions with answers.
Written by n3td3v, November 2005
-snip-
We caught up with "n3td3v", the founder, to ask some important questions.

Who exactly is "We"?  It appears"n3td3v" caught up with "n3td3v" and
talked to himself for quite some time.  My guess is this isn't the
only time this has happened.

So, noob, when you're done learning about this mythical thing called
netbus, go to
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback and learn some HTML.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Bart Lansing
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Y'know...I usually take what you have to say with a grain of
salt...and maybe a few grains of pain killer...and let it go, but
enough already.  "If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet
to sent your packets on right now"??

There have been a few individuals whose contributions to this list
struck me as being of questionable worth, but you are the first I
have felt the need to expend the trivial efforts to filter.
Congratulations and goodbye.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:39 -0800 n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Yet another fuckwit basing their opinion on someone they don't
>know.
>If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your
>packets
>on right now. You take people at face value instead of getting to
>know
>them first.
>
>Read my research paper on Hackers Today and you might learn
>something.
>
>
>On 11/13/05, Ken Pfeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Please do not feed n3td3v..
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/28o42
>>
>> Thank you for your cooperation.
>>
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:37:28 +0100, Peer Janssen said:

> How do you know these are the same person?
> 
> Could it be a decoy?
> A social engineering test against the forum?
> A clue test against the members of this list? (Who could be interesting 
> in detailed profiling of the security community? What could it be used 
> for in which scenarios?)

What's really going down while we're all distracted with this flame-fest? ;)

> I guess nobody will go far in security with in-the-box thinking and with 
> simply taking things at face value.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not actually out to get 
you


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Ken Pfeil
I should add that the page below has been updated on wiki with an
example. Whomever did that, Thanks! :)

Ken Pfeil wrote:
> Please do not feed n3td3v..
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/28o42
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Adam Jones
On 11/14/05, James Eaton-Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 01:02 +, n3td3v wrote:
> > Yet another fuckwit basing their opinion on someone they don't know.
> > If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
> > on right now. You take people at face value instead of getting to know
> > them first.
>
> Oh no, guys! He's following through on his threats and taking the
> internet down, one page at a time! By tomorrow there'll be nothing left!
>
> "The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data
> transfer. Visit our help area for more
> information." (http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/hackerstoday.html)
>
> (Quick, to the batcave, Robin - better get your 'corporate backing' at
> yahoo to up your geocities bandwidth allowance!)
>
> > Read my research paper on Hackers Today and you might learn something.
>
> I tried, but I can't - where would I buy a printed copy from?

That's ok, here is a quick synopsis/review of it for you:

The paper "Hackers Today" discusses the nature of "current-generation"
hackers. It details the supposed methods and motivations of this group
as portrayed by someone who seems to desperately seek inclusion. In it
hackers are portrayed as elite internet cowboys, mostly working alone
and funded through illicit gains from their hacking, phishing, and
corporate espionage endeavors.

The paper seems to lack the flow and structure of other similar works,
from which it obviously lifts all of its ideas. The tone and language
of that paper varies in the level of technical reference, but is
generally seems to appeal more towards a PHB than anyone who would
want real information. From the negative classification of "security
experts" who are evidently differentiated from real hackers by the
fact that they take "their opinions from books and websites they've
read" as opposed to hackers that "grew up infront of computers due to
social problems in life" some rather obvious statements about the
writer can probably be inferred.

Taken as a whole "Hackers Today" fails to provide any real level of
useful resource. Its use of unreferenced generalizations and
stereotypes ensures that it can not be taken on any level of technical
merit. The lack of a simple organization and structure ensure that it
is not useful as a subject overview for the less technically-minded.

Hopefully that helped you James, and at least with this you can avoid
wasting the fifteen minutes it would take to sort through the poor
structure to find what is being said here. You'd think someone who
"use(s) computers as an escape from real life troubles that affect
them" would know a little bit more about writing a formal paper.

To n3td3v:
I am sure that you will find something at fault with the text,
grammar, or structure of my email. It is an unqualified but probably
safe statistic that 1/2 of all criticisms of spelling or grammar
posted on the internet will contain similar errors. The point is that
if you are going to take the time to write a paper, then publish it,
and ask people to read it, you should be sure to get everything about
it right. Had you described what was written as a collection of notes
and thoughts it would be read as such, but what you posted fails as
both research and a paper.

But that is not what you are really at here, is it?

-Adam
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread James Eaton-Lee
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 01:02 +, n3td3v wrote:
> Yet another fuckwit basing their opinion on someone they don't know.
> If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
> on right now. You take people at face value instead of getting to know
> them first.

Oh no, guys! He's following through on his threats and taking the
internet down, one page at a time! By tomorrow there'll be nothing left!

"The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data
transfer. Visit our help area for more
information." (http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/hackerstoday.html)

(Quick, to the batcave, Robin - better get your 'corporate backing' at
yahoo to up your geocities bandwidth allowance!)

> Read my research paper on Hackers Today and you might learn something.

I tried, but I can't - where would I buy a printed copy from?

 - James.

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RE: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread ad








Have moved to xp 64 me so but honestly if
it is for your girlfriend , I suggest here to stay on 32-bit because you have
to find 64-bit drivers wich is not finger in the nose, many applications
incompatibility, + if you wants to buy it you have to buy a small hardware with
it … nor with luck you will find a free corp version without genuine
around there :>

Else about performances , yeah it’s
faster, stable , much secured Im not sure cos the recent poc I coded works on
all xp and doesn’t need update for all of them , 64bit included J we all know ms products
will be never secured anyway ;)

 









De :
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2005 15:48
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Enough's enough...



 

_Obviously_ he's just asking so he can record the reaction of the
hackers.

/me slaps ../../../../n3td3v

On a more serious note, why would someone with so much experience and what not
use a Geocities account for their website? You'd think someone with his
experience could make a better site than that and make a stronger argument for
why someone should hire them. I guess it's possible this is just a big social
engineering attempt to see how a whole list of "evil hackers" will react
to him. Maybe he's fishing for the good old "electricity and phone"
threats so common amongst misinformed teenagers.

Offtopic: Is the 64bit version of Windows XP worth getting? My gf just bought a
new Compaq with a 64bit Turion in it, and it came with the regular XP Home.
She's debating whether or not to buy the 64bit version, and I'm of no help
since I don't really use Windows on any of my machines except for testing
stuff.

On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 12:57 +0100, Samuel Beckett wrote: 

 On 11/14/05, Disco Jonny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I thought that this was an excellent bit of trolling  and> deserving of food, until google and boredom brought me across this...> > http://forum.crime-research.org/teech-me-how-to-hack-vt6.html?highlight= "I'm I want to become a hacker. By the way, whats "netbus"?"Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:30 pm http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/about.html "Extensive on hands hacker scene experience (6+ years) (Knowing your enemy)" 




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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Iadnah




_Obviously_ he's just asking so he can record the reaction of the hackers.

/me slaps ../../../../n3td3v

On a more serious note, why would someone with so much experience and what not use a Geocities account for their website? You'd think someone with his experience could make a better site than that and make a stronger argument for why someone should hire them. I guess it's possible this is just a big social engineering attempt to see how a whole list of "evil hackers" will react to him. Maybe he's fishing for the good old "electricity and phone" threats so common amongst misinformed teenagers.

Offtopic: Is the 64bit version of Windows XP worth getting? My gf just bought a new Compaq with a 64bit Turion in it, and it came with the regular XP Home. She's debating whether or not to buy the 64bit version, and I'm of no help since I don't really use Windows on any of my machines except for testing stuff.

On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 12:57 +0100, Samuel Beckett wrote:


On 11/14/05, Disco Jonny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought that this was an excellent bit of trolling  and
> deserving of food, until google and boredom brought me across this...
>
> http://forum.crime-research.org/teech-me-how-to-hack-vt6.html?highlight=

"I'm I want to become a hacker. By the way, whats "netbus"?"
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:30 pm

http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/about.html

"Extensive on hands hacker scene experience (6+ years) (Knowing your enemy)"





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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread poo
ITS A TRICK TO CONFUSE THE ENEMY HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN EARLIER POSTS !!!oneoneone lolz
On 11/14/05, Samuel Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It makes sense to conduct a social engineering test against a forum,ask for help to become a hacker and use your homepage in the signature
which states that you're already an experienced hacker since more thansix years.On 11/14/05, Peer Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> How do you know these are the same person?
>> Could it be a decoy?> A social engineering test against the forum?> A clue test against the members of this list? (Who could be interesting> in detailed profiling of the security community? What could it be used
> for in which scenarios?)>> I guess nobody will go far in security with in-the-box thinking and with> simply taking things at face value.>> Peer>> ___
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Samuel Beckett
It makes sense to conduct a social engineering test against a forum,
ask for help to become a hacker and use your homepage in the signature
which states that you're already an experienced hacker since more than
six years.


On 11/14/05, Peer Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you know these are the same person?
>
> Could it be a decoy?
> A social engineering test against the forum?
> A clue test against the members of this list? (Who could be interesting
> in detailed profiling of the security community? What could it be used
> for in which scenarios?)
>
> I guess nobody will go far in security with in-the-box thinking and with
> simply taking things at face value.
>
> Peer
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Peer Janssen

Samuel Beckett wrote:


On 11/14/05, Disco Jonny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


I thought that this was an excellent bit of trolling  and
deserving of food, until google and boredom brought me across this...

http://forum.crime-research.org/teech-me-how-to-hack-vt6.html?highlight=
  



"I'm I want to become a hacker. By the way, whats "netbus"?"
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:30 pm

http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/about.html

"Extensive on hands hacker scene experience (6+ years) (Knowing your 
enemy)"
 


How do you know these are the same person?

Could it be a decoy?
A social engineering test against the forum?
A clue test against the members of this list? (Who could be interesting 
in detailed profiling of the security community? What could it be used 
for in which scenarios?)


I guess nobody will go far in security with in-the-box thinking and with 
simply taking things at face value.


Peer

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Samuel Beckett
On 11/14/05, Disco Jonny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought that this was an excellent bit of trolling  and
> deserving of food, until google and boredom brought me across this...
>
> http://forum.crime-research.org/teech-me-how-to-hack-vt6.html?highlight=

"I'm I want to become a hacker. By the way, whats "netbus"?"
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:30 pm

http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v/home/about.html

"Extensive on hands hacker scene experience (6+ years) (Knowing your enemy)"
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread Disco Jonny
I thought that this was an excellent bit of trolling  and
deserving of food, until google and boredom brought me across this...

http://forum.crime-research.org/teech-me-how-to-hack-vt6.html?highlight=

As for the lack of basic English skills, I think that this is done
deliberately, if the spelling, syntax and grammar had been completely
correct then there is more chance that people will recognise
'obnoxious eliza'

oh go on then, just a little food,

n3td3v your mates at yahoo, are they the same "ignorant Americans"  at
yahoo that you mention are ignoring you?

http://forum.crime-research.org/fishing-and-farming-vt5.html?highlight=

so, it would seem not a troll, just a little misinformed, probably
autistic or something

sorry for filling you inboxen with more rubbish

/me will get my coat


On 11/13/05, Ken Pfeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please do not feed n3td3v..
>
> http://tinyurl.com/28o42
>
> Thank you for your cooperation.
>
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> Internet on Yahoo".
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-14 Thread poo
hhh beware or the n3td3v kidz0r will p4ck37 j00!!!11oneonelolz
On 11/14/05, InfoSecBOFH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're maing a complete idiot of yourself, because the world is> watching and the powers that be at Yahoo would back up everything i've
> been sayingActually they won't.  I have multiple friends who work and have workedat Yahoo and nothing you have claimed is even remotely close to thetruth.  But nice try.> YOUVE NO IDEA WHO I AM
I have a pretty good idea who you are.  Your actions on here haveproven that you are a small minded little geek with no actual skill soyou must partake in some Internet dick waving hoping you impresssomeone when really all you have done is proved your stupidity.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread InfoSecBOFH
> You're maing a complete idiot of yourself, because the world is
> watching and the powers that be at Yahoo would back up everything i've
> been saying

Actually they won't.  I have multiple friends who work and have worked
at Yahoo and nothing you have claimed is even remotely close to the
truth.  But nice try.

> YOUVE NO IDEA WHO I AM

I have a pretty good idea who you are.  Your actions on here have
proven that you are a small minded little geek with no actual skill so
you must partake in some Internet dick waving hoping you impress
someone when really all you have done is proved your stupidity.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread InfoSecBOFH
> Yet another fuckwit basing their opinion on someone they don't know.
> If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
> on right now. You take people at face value instead of getting to know
> them first.

Then take away the Internet oh great one.  Have you ran out of meds or
are you simply enjoying the attention you have created for yourself
without demonstrating even a minimal level of skill.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread Micah McNelly
lol

stop feeding the animals.

/m

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To: 
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You're maing a complete idiot of yourself, because the world is
watching and the powers that be at Yahoo would back up everything i've
been saying if it wasn't such a poltical hill for a body of people to
speak out on a brand name. The trouble is people don't wanna talk in
high jobs, because it'll look as if they're representing the
corporation they're working at..even if its just their personal
opinion. Got to wonder why the FD admins are keeping me here, maybe
because They know me and I know them.. and they have contacts of those
people. You see whats said on list isn't always whats going on
offlist. Youre some nerdy security engineer with no real direction in
life, so how about you stfu, befor you take on the might of the
underground intelligence services of the corporate scene. If in doubt
of anything i'm saying, feel free to direct your queries to security
at yahoo -inc dot com. I'm sure they'll be more than able to assit you
in your enquiries.
YOUVE NO IDEA WHO I AM
Get a grip before you post anything else.

On 11/14/05, KF (lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh shit! n3td3v is Al g0re!
> -KF
>
>
> n3td3v wrote:
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> >If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
> >on right now.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread n3td3v
You're maing a complete idiot of yourself, because the world is
watching and the powers that be at Yahoo would back up everything i've
been saying if it wasn't such a poltical hill for a body of people to
speak out on a brand name. The trouble is people don't wanna talk in
high jobs, because it'll look as if they're representing the
corporation they're working at..even if its just their personal
opinion. Got to wonder why the FD admins are keeping me here, maybe
because They know me and I know them.. and they have contacts of those
people. You see whats said on list isn't always whats going on
offlist. Youre some nerdy security engineer with no real direction in
life, so how about you stfu, befor you take on the might of the
underground intelligence services of the corporate scene. If in doubt
of anything i'm saying, feel free to direct your queries to security
at yahoo -inc dot com. I'm sure they'll be more than able to assit you
in your enquiries.
YOUVE NO IDEA WHO I AM
Get a grip before you post anything else.

On 11/14/05, KF (lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh shit! n3td3v is Al g0re!
> -KF
>
>
> n3td3v wrote:
>
> >If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
> >on right now.
> >
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:54:10 EST, "KF (lists)" said:
> Oh shit! n3td3v is Al g0re!

That *would* explain his comic skillz.


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread KF (lists)

Oh shit! n3td3v is Al g0re!
-KF


n3td3v wrote:


If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
on right now. 



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Re: [Full-disclosure] Enough's enough...

2005-11-13 Thread n3td3v
Yet another fuckwit basing their opinion on someone they don't know.
If it wasn't for me you wouldn't have an internet to sent your packets
on right now. You take people at face value instead of getting to know
them first.

Read my research paper on Hackers Today and you might learn something.


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