Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-03 Thread n3td3v
You're like a shite that won't flush away.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 all speculation:

 no 1 knows 4 sure.

 http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/17/1754257from=rss

 http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa.02/

 http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nsa_backdoor_windows.htm

 c how i did that n3td3v?  i posted links, nd talked about the article
 w/out stealing ppls work.

 pay attention.


 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/12/2 Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 u arent getting it.

 it has nothing 2 do w/ backdoors.  they r talking about actual
 backdoors in the code.  so that anyone who knows the backdoor can
 acess any windows system regarless.  they r saying that microsoft has
 coded backdoors into the system so that the govt can get into any
 system, patched or not.  pay attention.

 I haven't seen anything that suggests that systems are/will be backdoored
 here.  The text of the statement said remote searches which in legal terms
 could be anything from something as simple as browsing shared files
 available through P2P to full remote system access.

 Do you have anything else that suggests Windows has backdoors present other
 than this statement?


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Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-03 Thread Ureleet
pot
kettle
black

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:34 AM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're like a shite that won't flush away.

 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 all speculation:

 no 1 knows 4 sure.

 http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/17/1754257from=rss

 http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa.02/

 http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nsa_backdoor_windows.htm

 c how i did that n3td3v?  i posted links, nd talked about the article
 w/out stealing ppls work.

 pay attention.


 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/12/2 Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 u arent getting it.

 it has nothing 2 do w/ backdoors.  they r talking about actual
 backdoors in the code.  so that anyone who knows the backdoor can
 acess any windows system regarless.  they r saying that microsoft has
 coded backdoors into the system so that the govt can get into any
 system, patched or not.  pay attention.

 I haven't seen anything that suggests that systems are/will be backdoored
 here.  The text of the statement said remote searches which in legal terms
 could be anything from something as simple as browsing shared files
 available through P2P to full remote system access.

 Do you have anything else that suggests Windows has backdoors present other
 than this statement?


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Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-03 Thread j-f sentier
If there's a peace of shit around here that should be flushed, it's only you
n3tcr4p
No one like you, get the fuck back on your kiddie mailing list/group.




2008/12/3 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You're like a shite that won't flush away.

 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  all speculation:
 
  no 1 knows 4 sure.
 
  http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/17/1754257from=rss
 
  http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa.02/
 
  http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nsa_backdoor_windows.htm
 
  c how i did that n3td3v?  i posted links, nd talked about the article
  w/out stealing ppls work.
 
  pay attention.
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  2008/12/2 Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  u arent getting it.
 
  it has nothing 2 do w/ backdoors.  they r talking about actual
  backdoors in the code.  so that anyone who knows the backdoor can
  acess any windows system regarless.  they r saying that microsoft has
  coded backdoors into the system so that the govt can get into any
  system, patched or not.  pay attention.
 
  I haven't seen anything that suggests that systems are/will be
 backdoored
  here.  The text of the statement said remote searches which in legal
 terms
  could be anything from something as simple as browsing shared files
  available through P2P to full remote system access.
 
  Do you have anything else that suggests Windows has backdoors present
 other
  than this statement?
 
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-03 Thread n3td3v
There are no kiddies on the group and any that appear get banned.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:28 PM, j-f sentier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If there's a peace of shit around here that should be flushed, it's only you
 n3tcr4p
 No one like you, get the fuck back on your kiddie mailing list/group.




 2008/12/3 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You're like a shite that won't flush away.

 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  all speculation:
 
  no 1 knows 4 sure.
 
  http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/17/1754257from=rss
 
  http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa.02/
 
  http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nsa_backdoor_windows.htm
 
  c how i did that n3td3v?  i posted links, nd talked about the article
  w/out stealing ppls work.
 
  pay attention.
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  2008/12/2 Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  u arent getting it.
 
  it has nothing 2 do w/ backdoors.  they r talking about actual
  backdoors in the code.  so that anyone who knows the backdoor can
  acess any windows system regarless.  they r saying that microsoft has
  coded backdoors into the system so that the govt can get into any
  system, patched or not.  pay attention.
 
  I haven't seen anything that suggests that systems are/will be
  backdoored
  here.  The text of the statement said remote searches which in legal
  terms
  could be anything from something as simple as browsing shared files
  available through P2P to full remote system access.
 
  Do you have anything else that suggests Windows has backdoors present
  other
  than this statement?
 
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-02 Thread Ureleet
all speculation:

no 1 knows 4 sure.

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/17/1754257from=rss

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa.02/

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nsa_backdoor_windows.htm

c how i did that n3td3v?  i posted links, nd talked about the article
w/out stealing ppls work.

pay attention.


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/12/2 Ureleet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 u arent getting it.

 it has nothing 2 do w/ backdoors.  they r talking about actual
 backdoors in the code.  so that anyone who knows the backdoor can
 acess any windows system regarless.  they r saying that microsoft has
 coded backdoors into the system so that the govt can get into any
 system, patched or not.  pay attention.

 I haven't seen anything that suggests that systems are/will be backdoored
 here.  The text of the statement said remote searches which in legal terms
 could be anything from something as simple as browsing shared files
 available through P2P to full remote system access.

 Do you have anything else that suggests Windows has backdoors present other
 than this statement?


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Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-01 Thread n3td3v
If they use zero-day exploits then thats illegal.

Secondly, are they using zero-day exploits post on public mailing
lists or using their own home grown exploits that the bad guys and
potentially the vendor doesn't know about?

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Aaron Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 proof, did you read the article ?
 They are after your bad guys and probably using zero day exploits !?
 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:13 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7758127.stm


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Re: [Full-disclosure] More proof that Microsoft products are probably backdoored

2008-12-01 Thread n3td3v
Which court order? Post a link.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Aaron Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Probably not with a court order.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:51 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If they use zero-day exploits then thats illegal.

 Secondly, are they using zero-day exploits post on public mailing
 lists or using their own home grown exploits that the bad guys and
 potentially the vendor doesn't know about?

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Aaron Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  proof, did you read the article ?
  They are after your bad guys and probably using zero day exploits !?
  On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:13 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7758127.stm
 



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