Re: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola
Itd be low fat, high misery. On 8/26/09, Rob Thompson wrote: > chaim.rie...@gmail.com wrote: >> When the dude said on that little hill in the middle of the desert, don't >> eat pork. He meant it. > > But what would life be, without bacon? > > *oink > >> >> Ps. I don't listen to the dude >> --Original Message-- >> From: Paul Ferguson >> Sender: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org >> To: funsec@linuxbox.org >> Subject: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola >> Sent: Aug 26, 2009 14:12 >> >> Don't worry, it can't hurt you yet. :-) >> >> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swine-ebola-discovered >> >> Enjoy! >> >> - ferg >> > > -- > Rob > > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | _ | > | ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) | > | - against HTML email X | > |/ \ | > | | > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Rob Thompson wrote: > chaim.rie...@gmail.com wrote: >> When the dude said on that little hill in the middle of the desert, >> don't eat pork. He meant it. > > But what would life be, without bacon? > > *oink "But bacon is good, pork chops are good!" - Pulp Fiction - - ferg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFKldX3q1pz9mNUZTMRAu+5AJ9QtzaXmOEcuqDHoG/omtDyDQIEnwCglUrk /vydvYKRwWNnybTafrNgVX8= =eJCE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola
chaim.rie...@gmail.com wrote: > When the dude said on that little hill in the middle of the desert, don't eat > pork. He meant it. But what would life be, without bacon? *oink > > Ps. I don't listen to the dude > --Original Message-- > From: Paul Ferguson > Sender: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org > To: funsec@linuxbox.org > Subject: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola > Sent: Aug 26, 2009 14:12 > > Don't worry, it can't hurt youyet. :-) > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swine-ebola-discovered > > Enjoy! > > - ferg > -- Rob +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | _ | | ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) | | - against HTML email X | |/ \ | | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Microsoft in Web photo racism row
"Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" wrote: >> They changed it so that it would hide the fact that there was a copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of Redmond" on the window ledge behind him. << That has to be a fake - the Elders came from Albuquerque and their descendants wandered in the wilderness of Bellevue before Redmond was given unto them. In fact, there is a legend that before Albuquerque, the Elders came from a planet circling the star Altair, but most moderns dismiss that as a myth. Best, --- Les Bell [http://www.lesbell.com.au] Tel: +61 2 9451 1144 ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Microsoft in Web photo racism row
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Juha-Matti Laurio > wrote: > > http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/SpQ93JYbf9I/Ets/2HmV595XEqk/microbloodysoft.jpg Actually, it was the white guy who was in the original. They changed it so that it would hide the fact that there was a copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of Redmond" on the window ledge behind him. (Look closely.) == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org [T]he English paid tribute to Diana in the most English possible manner, by doing what we do best: queuing. - Kate Fox, `Watching the English' http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://twitter.com/rslade http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/NoticeBored ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] OT: CDC recommends male circumcision as very effective to fight HIV (AIDS)
+Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:03:31 -0700 (PDT) From: ch...@blask.org > o What is the theory about circumcision reducing AIDS? Circumcision has long been known to be effective in reducing the occurrence of all sorts of all sorts of genital infections. (Some say that this is balanced by the risks associated with the operation itself. I'm not going to join the "for or against" debate, other than to say that, in my days working in a hospital, I had to "special" a patient who had had to have a circumcision late in life due to infections, and it wasn't fun.) I believe the general theory is that the flexing and retraction of the foreskin (even when sexual activity is not involved) increases microscopic tears and lesions, and the fold of the foreskin over the glans provides a catchment area for infective or necrotic material. > o Why is it "only in high-risk populations" and not in the general > population? In low risk populations the incidence of AIDS is low enough that somebody could probably make a statistical case for the preventive properties of holding an unpeeled carrot between your toes. (Somebody else could probably make a statistical case indicating the dangers of said carrots.) > Is it possible that > social factors associated with parents who circumcise is the cause of > differences among high-risk populations? Possible, but I believe the study adjusted for that kind of factor. I think that at least some of the study looked at those who had circumcision in their teens and twenties *as* a preventive measure. > I have to admit, though, that > my bias is to believe the reason is the same as the ritual of female genital > mutilation: to decrease sexual pleasure for the purpose of societal control. I'm really not sure what you mean by that, but I've got the feeling that somebody is doing it wrong. (For various values of "it.") == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a thing of which it is said, `See, this is new'? It has already been, in the ages long before us.Ecclesiastes 1:9,10 http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://twitter.com/rslade http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/NoticeBored ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Microsoft in Web photo racism row
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:34:56 +0300, Juha-Matti Laurio said: > And look into this: > But on the website of its Polish business unit the black man's head was > replaced > with a white face, although the colour of his hands was unchanged. Which got them a mention here: http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/08/microsoft-poland-at-least-they-left.html pgpzVXlA9kGfK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola
When the dude said on that little hill in the middle of the desert, don't eat pork. He meant it. Ps. I don't listen to the dude --Original Message-- From: Paul Ferguson Sender: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola Sent: Aug 26, 2009 14:12 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't worry, it can't hurt you—yet. :-) http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swine-ebola-discovered Enjoy! - - ferg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFKlaUiq1pz9mNUZTMRAivoAJ4nUjWYv8ArxDJiuIGnrLmcBnENpgCgkvpT k8cFFXMI6vjo8r8MXYWTJ18= =Y4K4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
[funsec] If Swine Flu Weren't Enough, Now There's Swine Ebola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't worry, it can't hurt you—yet. :-) http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swine-ebola-discovered Enjoy! - - ferg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFKlaUiq1pz9mNUZTMRAivoAJ4nUjWYv8ArxDJiuIGnrLmcBnENpgCgkvpT k8cFFXMI6vjo8r8MXYWTJ18= =Y4K4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, David Harley wrote: > > > nannying like schools banning the playing of conkers hasn't done our public > > image any good. :( > > > > First person to mention guns gets a chestnut stake through the heart, > > though. OK, that's it. Chestnut trees are banned. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org We are responsible for actions performed in response to circumstances for which we are not responsible. - Allan Massie http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://twitter.com/rslade http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/NoticeBored ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah > wrote: > I live near a deep canyon with a river. Every summer we wonder, every time > we hear the sirens, whether it is yet another kid who decided to jump off the > cliffs into the river. We live in a world (most of us) that is incredibly safe by historic standards. Hence the rise of Extreme Sports and other risky behavior. For my part I am glad to live in a world where it is still possible to willingly do stupid - and even potentially fatal - things. I've done all sorts of them, and given that (to this point) I am still alive to describe them I can verify that they have generally kicked serious ass. From sailing small boats in shrieking storms to running full-tilt from rock to rock (don't slip!) to tree-bashing (duck! [that's downhill skiing in the woods for you flatlanders]), these are among the most alive moments of my life. -jack the sound barrier. bring the noise -chris ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
[funsec] Killer laptops ...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/08/26/bc-overheating- laptop-fire-death-vancouver.html == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org Twitter: the bumper sticker of the Information Age - rms http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://twitter.com/rslade http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/NoticeBored ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] OT: CDC recommends male circumcision as very effective to fight HIV (AIDS)
--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > Well, it's not insignificant. I have two boys, and the position of > the Doctors was always "it doesn't matter if you circumcise or not". > This new statement is pretty significant -- that you can actually > protect against AIDs. It would be significant with more information behind it. o What is the theory about circumcision reducing AIDS? o Why is it "only in high-risk populations" and not in the general population? o Can I reduce the occurrence of pink eye by cutting off my children's eyelids? OK, the last one was facetious (or was it?) but without answers to the first two the article is information-free. Is there some theory about a foreskin acting as a reservoir of viruses or some other explanation? Is it possible that social factors associated with parents who circumcise is the cause of differences among high-risk populations? Trying to keep an open mind, I am willing to consider that there is some medical basis for the ancient habit of penis mutilation. I have to admit, though, that my bias is to believe the reason is the same as the ritual of female genital mutilation: to decrease sexual pleasure for the purpose of societal control. -chris ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!
I was about to ask "what's 'conkers'?", but that's what Wikipedia is for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conker Here in America things are simpler. Kids just throw rocks at each other. Larry Seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry_selt...@ziffdavis.com http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Drsolly Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:56 PM To: David Harley Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org; 'Alex Eckelberry'; rmsl...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS! It isn't conkers that's the problem, it's people insufficiently trained in the safe use of conkers that's the problem. If conkers were banned, then only criminals would play conkers. On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, David Harley wrote: > > OTH, if we remove all danger from society, there's not much > > life left in that society. > > > > (Not disagreeing about stupid people, just pointing out the > > other side, such as the UK's obsession with safety which has > > resulted in nonsense like children not being able to play on > > playground equipment in some > > areas.) > > I'm not sure that sort of nonsense is restricted to the UK. However, > nannying like schools banning the playing of conkers hasn't done our public > image any good. :( > > First person to mention guns gets a chestnut stake through the heart, > though. > > -- > David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP > Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET > > > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!
It isn't conkers that's the problem, it's people insufficiently trained in the safe use of conkers that's the problem. If conkers were banned, then only criminals would play conkers. On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, David Harley wrote: > > OTH, if we remove all danger from society, there's not much > > life left in that society. > > > > (Not disagreeing about stupid people, just pointing out the > > other side, such as the UK's obsession with safety which has > > resulted in nonsense like children not being able to play on > > playground equipment in some > > areas.) > > I'm not sure that sort of nonsense is restricted to the UK. However, > nannying like schools banning the playing of conkers hasn't done our public > image any good. :( > > First person to mention guns gets a chestnut stake through the heart, > though. > > -- > David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP > Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET > > > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] OT: CDC recommends male circumcision as very effectiveto fight HIV (AIDS)
>>>At the time I asked what my wife thought. Her reply was it was more >>>about what it *does* than looks like - form over substance. Of course >>>she could have just been making me feel better. :) Size doesn't matter, either Alex ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Microsoft in Web photo racism row
I really have to wonder if this was just a case of some employee deciding to add themselves to the image. On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: > "Software giant Microsoft has apologised for editing a photo to > change a black man's head to that of a white man. > > The picture, showing employees sitting around a desk, appeared > unaltered on the firm's US website." > --clip-- > > And look into this: > But on the website of its Polish business unit the black man's head > was replaced with a white face, although the colour of his hands was > unchanged. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8221896.stm > > Images at > http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/SpQ93JYbf9I/Ets/2HmV595XEqk/microbloodysoft.jpg > > Juha-Matti > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
[funsec] Microsoft in Web photo racism row
"Software giant Microsoft has apologised for editing a photo to change a black man's head to that of a white man. The picture, showing employees sitting around a desk, appeared unaltered on the firm's US website." --clip-- And look into this: But on the website of its Polish business unit the black man's head was replaced with a white face, although the colour of his hands was unchanged. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8221896.stm Images at http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/SpQ93JYbf9I/Ets/2HmV595XEqk/microbloodysoft.jpg Juha-Matti ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] OT: CDC recommends male circumcision as very effectiveto fight HIV (AIDS)
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 07:02 -0400, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > So, typically, this entire list is male-dominated. I wonder what > female partners think about this whole argument? At the time I asked what my wife thought. Her reply was it was more about what it *does* than looks like - form over substance. Of course she could have just been making me feel better. :) -- -Andy Ruinis inminentibus musculi praemigrant - Pliny the Elder ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!
> OTH, if we remove all danger from society, there's not much > life left in that society. > > (Not disagreeing about stupid people, just pointing out the > other side, such as the UK's obsession with safety which has > resulted in nonsense like children not being able to play on > playground equipment in some > areas.) I'm not sure that sort of nonsense is restricted to the UK. However, nannying like schools banning the playing of conkers hasn't done our public image any good. :( First person to mention guns gets a chestnut stake through the heart, though. -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] OT: CDC recommends male circumcision as very effectiveto fight HIV (AIDS)
So, typically, this entire list is male-dominated. I wonder what female partners think about this whole argument? Wait, there's a study for that: http://www.circumstitions.com/Iowa.html Alex -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Peter Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 PM To: funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] OT: CDC recommends male circumcision as very effectiveto fight HIV (AIDS) On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Andy Sutton wrote: > I had to recently wade through all the sides on this debate to decide > what was best for my own son. Both sides of the debate are very > vocal, and it is tough to know what is bias - including internal bias. > In the end I decided to let him decide. It's his after all. I approve totally. If he wants to mutilate his junk when he's old enough, let him. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!
OTH, if we remove all danger from society, there's not much life left in that society. (Not disagreeing about stupid people, just pointing out the other side, such as the UK's obsession with safety which has resulted in nonsense like children not being able to play on playground equipment in some areas.) -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:40 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] DON'T DO STUPID THINGS! I live near a deep canyon with a river. Every summer we wonder, every time we hear the sirens, whether it is yet another kid who decided to jump off the cliffs into the river. There are big signs warning of the danger, and a number of memorial plaques to those who have died. (Maybe it would be more effective if all the plaques were replaced and reworded, to say "Sacred to the memory of X, WHO WAS REALLY STUPID!!") So, we have a hurricane winding down, and what do people do? Decide to run out to the rocks and look at the big waves. Sometimes from underneath. "A 7-year-old girl died in Maine after she, her father, and a 12-year-old girl were swept into the water on August 23 off Acadia National Park's Thunder Hole, where tourists often gather to watch waves crash into a crevasse and make a thundering sound while splashing high in the air. Park officials at Acadia National Park, about 110 miles northeast of Portland, said an estimated 10,000 people, lured by the wild ocean, converged on the park's loop road trying to get a good view of waves more than 15 feet high crashing against the rocky shore. "The problem was there were thousands and thousands of people to try to keep an eye on," said the chief ranger. The U.S. Coast Guard reported that the waves swept over 20 people. The chief ranger said 11 people were taken to the hospital, mainly for broken bones after being slammed onto the rocks. A Thunder Hole viewing platform was closed, and they were among hundreds of people watching the waves from nearby rocks. Many people did not even move when the waves splashed them and instead seemed to laugh it off, the chief ranger said." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gVWjsPEiqe1tEu2mhBIRax xGi8owD9A93BK02 Also: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/08/25/ns-boaters-hurrica ne- bill.html == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org It is entirely untrue that we dislike you because of your [race| religion|politics|sexual orientation|choice of operating system]. We dislike you because you are a jerk. - rms http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://twitter.com/rslade http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/NoticeBored ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.