Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
Has there been any study done on what data Chrome collects and passes along to Google? How many places do you already more-or-less send your browsing history (Google SafeBrowsing, McAfee SiteAdvisor, Websense, etc) ? None, oddly enough. Not even a history file on my local system; lynx is configured to not even save that stuff locally. We just hope they're not secretly up to some nefarious extracurricular activities :-) I haven't trusted Google since they introduced gmail, with its we're going to hide the actual origin botch, despite having it pointed out to them ahead of time. But what _really_ tore it with me was when they started spamming me, continued despite being notified of it, kept pecking away for months despite a 100% rejection rate, and then morphed their spam so as to avoid the block I'd thrown up to produce that 100% rejection rate. I no longer accept any mail from google. At all. And I consider their don't be evil, whatever it started out as, to be pure cynical PR now. It may be at least partially from incompetence at implementing SMTP rather than malice, but in an organization that big and that well heeled, there is no excuse for that kind of rudimentary incompetence. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTMLmo...@rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
The sandbox is currently broken. I know people that can get out of it. For obvious reasons, I can't really disclose more than that. What a coincidence. I happen to know Barack Obama's voice mail pass code, but obviously I can't disclose it here. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
Yes! I thought it was just me. FF v 3.6.6 Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:45 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] Firefox slow? Anybody else seeing Firefox being terribly slow after yesterday's MS update patches? == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org They read good books, and quote, but never learn a language other than the scream of rocket-burn. Our straighter talk is drowned but ironclad: Elections, money, empire, oil and Dad. - Andrew Motion, The Guardian, 20020109 victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
From: michael.blanch...@emc.com Date sent: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:10:44 -0500 Yes! I thought it was just me. FF v 3.6.6 Fully updated FF v 3.6.13. Actually, it's weird. On faster machine, viewing just about nothing but Twitter (new interface) it's bogged. On 7 year old machine (MS updated yesterday) viewing Twitter (old interface) it seems to be doing OK ... == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.- Winston Churchill victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
Firefox has been getting slower for a long time. You haven't noticed till now because, like the frog boiling in slowly-heated water, you've been putting up with it. Chrome is the only way to go. LJS -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:57 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] Firefox slow? From: michael.blanch...@emc.com Date sent: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:10:44 -0500 Yes! I thought it was just me. FF v 3.6.6 Fully updated FF v 3.6.13. Actually, it's weird. On faster machine, viewing just about nothing but Twitter (new interface) it's bogged. On 7 year old machine (MS updated yesterday) viewing Twitter (old interface) it seems to be doing OK ... == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.- Winston Churchill victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
Date sent: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:16:55 -0500 From: Larry Seltzer la...@larryseltzer.com Chrome is the only way to go. I will have to try Chrome again some time. Last version I tried was incredibly slow ... == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org The optimist sees the glass as half full. The pessimist sees the glass as half empty. The engineer sees that the glass was twice as large as necessary. victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 05:44:36PM -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Anybody else seeing Firefox being terribly slow after yesterday's MS update patches? Firefox sucks. Bloatware for the past several years. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
On 1/13/2011 5:37 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent:Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:16:55 -0500 From: Larry Seltzer la...@larryseltzer.com Chrome is the only way to go. I will have to try Chrome again some time. Last version I tried was incredibly slow ... Because Google can only collect so much behavioral data without your help! Use Chrome. Feed the beast. Because I'm talking out my ass here, I'll pose a question. Has there been any study done on what data Chrome collects and passes along to Google? Randy -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am, by definition, the intended recipient 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit 3. I will take the contents as representing the views of your company 4. If your email is an Out of Office reply on a mailing list, I will social engineer your company 5. This notification overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message Further, you understand that if any of the following conditions are met that you are indeed, a bag of douche: 1. Your message identifies the device you sent it from 2. You messed up the thread by top-posting ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
Ok chrome has sandboxing, but does anyone know of any published tests about it's efficacy? Cheers, Randy Typos courtesy of Blackberry - Original Message - From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:la...@larryseltzer.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 04:58 PM To: Joel Esler joel.es...@me.com Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org funsec@linuxbox.org; rmsl...@shaw.ca rmsl...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [funsec] Firefox slow? Chrome has it's own security problems. (a lot of them). While I agree it's a freaking fast browser, I'm still on Safari. Chrome is sandboxed. Very, very few of the vulnerabilities in it are exploitable in a meaningful way. In fact, the critical vulnerability they reported yesterday (http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2011/01/new_chrome_version_includes_ cr.php) is actually not exploitable because it's not in live code. I'd send you the list of critical vulnerabilities in Safari, but I'm afraid Verizon will start throttling my account for excessive bandwidth usage. LJS ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
Can't we all just echo -e GET /content/home.aspx HTTP/1.0\n\n | nc www.websense.com 80 along? On 1/13/11 8:34 PM, Hubbard, Dan wrote: Lynx is the only option ;-). From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Randal T. Rioux [ra...@procyonlabs.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:13 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] Firefox slow? On 1/13/2011 5:37 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent:Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:16:55 -0500 From: Larry Seltzerla...@larryseltzer.com Chrome is the only way to go. I will have to try Chrome again some time. Last version I tried was incredibly slow ... Because Google can only collect so much behavioral data without your help! Use Chrome. Feed the beast. Because I'm talking out my ass here, I'll pose a question. Has there been any study done on what data Chrome collects and passes along to Google? Randy -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am, by definition, the intended recipient 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit 3. I will take the contents as representing the views of your company 4. If your email is an Out of Office reply on a mailing list, I will social engineer your company 5. This notification overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message Further, you understand that if any of the following conditions are met that you are indeed, a bag of douche: 1. Your message identifies the device you sent it from 2. You messed up the thread by top-posting ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. To report this as spam, please forward to s...@websense.com. Thank you. Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Firefox slow?
On 1/13/2011 8:13 PM, Randal T. Rioux wrote: Because I'm talking out my ass here, I'll pose a question. Has there been any study done on what data Chrome collects and passes along to Google? How many places do you already more-or-less send your browsing history (Google SafeBrowsing, McAfee SiteAdvisor, Websense, etc) ? We just hope they're not secretly up to some nefarious extracurricular activities :-) Jeff ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
[funsec] Firefox slow?
Anybody else seeing Firefox being terribly slow after yesterday's MS update patches? == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org They read good books, and quote, but never learn a language other than the scream of rocket-burn. Our straighter talk is drowned but ironclad: Elections, money, empire, oil and Dad. - Andrew Motion, The Guardian, 20020109 victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
