[funsec] Former DOJ Prosecutor Files $3 Billion Suit Against Obama, Holder, NSA, Verizon Over PRISM
https://www.google.com/#q=Larry+Klayman+lawsuit+prism All the references are non-mainstream (Washington Post, NY Times, and other mainstream outlets have not picked up the story yet). ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Former DOJ Prosecutor Files $3 Billion Suit Against Obama, Holder, NSA, Verizon Over PRISM
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:55:25 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: > https://www.google.com/#q=Larry+Klayman+lawsuit+prism > > All the references are non-mainstream (Washington Post, NY Times, and > other mainstream outlets have not picked up the story yet). This will almost certainly go nowhere, for the exact same reason that most of the lawsuits about warrantless spying went nowhere - nobody can show proof they were actually spied on and therefor have standing to sue as "plaintiff who was spied on". Every single one of the warrantless spying cases went bye-bye except for one law firm that got hold of an accidentally released document showing that they were in fact targeted. pgpkgyYmdFhhV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Former DOJ Prosecutor Files $3 Billion Suit Against Obama, Holder, NSA, Verizon Over PRISM
He is also a birther who filed suits on that topic. Unfortunately the front runner on this has no credibility. On Sunday, June 16, 2013, wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:55:25 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: > > https://www.google.com/#q=Larry+Klayman+lawsuit+prism > > > > All the references are non-mainstream (Washington Post, NY Times, and > > other mainstream outlets have not picked up the story yet). > > This will almost certainly go nowhere, for the exact same reason that > most of the lawsuits about warrantless spying went nowhere - nobody can > show proof they were actually spied on and therefor have standing to sue > as "plaintiff who was spied on". Every single one of the warrantless > spying cases went bye-bye except for one law firm that got hold of an > accidentally released document showing that they were in fact targeted. > ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Former DOJ Prosecutor Files $3 Billion Suit Against Obama, Holder, NSA, Verizon Over PRISM
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:14 PM, wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:55:25 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: >> https://www.google.com/#q=Larry+Klayman+lawsuit+prism >> >> All the references are non-mainstream (Washington Post, NY Times, and >> other mainstream outlets have not picked up the story yet). > > This will almost certainly go nowhere, for the exact same reason that > most of the lawsuits about warrantless spying went nowhere - nobody can > show proof they were actually spied on and therefor have standing to sue > as "plaintiff who was spied on". Every single one of the warrantless > spying cases went bye-bye except for one law firm that got hold of an > accidentally released document showing that they were in fact targeted. Valdis, I don't expect the victims (us) to find redress. The lawsuit is a form of civil disobedience. See item 63 under "Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions ," http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations103a.html. What I find interesting is the suit is being minimized, much like the folks in the Occupy movement. Contrast that to the media's coverage of "Snowden the Traitor" stories. Do yo think the government (or the oligarchy) is controlling the media? Jeff ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Former DOJ Prosecutor Files $3 Billion Suit Against Obama, Holder, NSA, Verizon Over PRISM
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 02:09:32PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Do yo think the government (or the oligarchy) is controlling the media? The oligarchy *owns* the media, if we define "media" as "major newspapers, magazines, radio stations, television stations, and cable networks". Over the past several decades, the dividing line between the newsroom and the business department has steadily eroded -- as a timely example, the newspaper of Woodward, Bernstein, Bradley, and Graham has this past week quietly announced "sponsored" editorials. Gack. Blech. It's not in their business interest to dig too deeply, or admit that they were scooped, or irritate the powerful, or spend the resources necessary to uncover something approximating "the truth". Unfortunately, journalism in the US has (not entirely but in many cases) degenerated into polemic on one hand and stenography on the other. I find this incredibly sad. ---rsk ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
