Re: [funsec] Net-connected Barbie?

2015-02-18 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:40:17PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
 Harry Harrison wrote I always do what Teddy says back in 1965.

Whoa.  That hasn't crossed my mind in...well, okay, a lot of years.

So now it seems we're going to live in the worlds imagined by Harrison,
Dick, Orwell, Bradbury, Vonnegut, and others.  Perhaps there should be
a mandatory reading list of seminal dystopian, cautionary tales --
although those busily engaged in figuring out how they can without
pausing to consider if they should would probably not pause to read them.

---rsk
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[funsec] Net-connected Barbie?

2015-02-17 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31502898

Oh, I can't see any possible problems with that.

Let's see.  Like Siri, et al, the computing power, and data storage, for parsing
what the kid says is undoubtedly elsewhere.  (Mattel?  Apple?  Microsoft?  the
NSA?)  So, everything your kid says around the doll is going somewhere, and
being stored.  (Forever?)  Everything you, or anybody else, says around the doll
is being stored.

Then what kind of algorithm is being used to feed jokes and games?  There
wouldn't be *any* possibility that someone could tweak the agenda here, is
there?  No possibility of propaganda aimed at the kids?

And I'm *sure* that Mattel has thought long and hard about the security of all
those transactions.  They'd all be protected by bullet-proof crypto,
authentication and security so that no attacker could hijack the stream.  You
know, no crooks trying to find out if the kid is home alone with only an
inexperienced babysitter, no child pornographers teaching kids how to use
Webcams, no pedophiles setting up meets with the kids ...


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Re: [funsec] Net-connected Barbie?

2015-02-17 Thread Steve Pirk
Why did I immediately think of Chucky when I was reading this... and I am
sure that propaganda (state or corporate sponsored) is top on the list of
undocumented features...


On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon 
Hannah rmsl...@shaw.ca wrote:

 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31502898

 Oh, I can't see any possible problems with that.

 Let's see.  Like Siri, et al, the computing power, and data storage, for
 parsing
 what the kid says is undoubtedly elsewhere.  (Mattel?  Apple?  Microsoft?
 the
 NSA?)  So, everything your kid says around the doll is going somewhere, and
 being stored.  (Forever?)  Everything you, or anybody else, says around
 the doll
 is being stored.

 Then what kind of algorithm is being used to feed jokes and games?  There
 wouldn't be *any* possibility that someone could tweak the agenda here, is
 there?  No possibility of propaganda aimed at the kids?

 And I'm *sure* that Mattel has thought long and hard about the security of
 all
 those transactions.  They'd all be protected by bullet-proof crypto,
 authentication and security so that no attacker could hijack the stream.
 You
 know, no crooks trying to find out if the kid is home alone with only an
 inexperienced babysitter, no child pornographers teaching kids how to use
 Webcams, no pedophiles setting up meets with the kids ...


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 victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links
 http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/
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Re: [funsec] Net-connected Barbie?

2015-02-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:57:04 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon  
Hannah said:

 Then what kind of algorithm is being used to feed jokes and games?  There
 wouldn't be *any* possibility that someone could tweak the agenda here, is
 there?  No possibility of propaganda aimed at the kids?

Harry Harrison wrote I always do what Teddy says back in 1965.


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