Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
>-Original Message- >From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] >Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:51 PM >To: Patrick Laverty >Cc: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec); funsec@linuxbox.org; rmsl...@shaw.ca >Subject: Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way? > >On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:24:27 EST, Patrick Laverty said: > >> "I know Kung Fu." >> >> "Show me." > >At which point we'll need even better anti-virus software for memes, because >otherwise you just can't win The Game. > Interesting game The only way to win, is to not play at all... Mike B ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
Valdis to Patrick Laverty: > > "I know Kung Fu." > > > > "Show me." > > At which point we'll need even better anti-virus software for memes, > because otherwise you just can't win The Game. Nah -- at that point we will have mandatory "file" format and data structure definitions and _very_ strict conformance checking of the same PLUS cross-referencing with the allowable value ranges/performance capabilities/etc of the recipient wetware before allowing it to load into hardware that interfaces with that wetware instance. If not -- well, let's just say _you_ are welcome to use it... Regards, Nick FitzGerald ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
Patrick Laverty to Michael Blanchard: > > "One philosophical question could arise once we'll be able to > > download a person's whole brain onto a chip and then implant the > > chip into someone else's body." > > Not just download, but upload too. Upload/download -- that just depends on your frame of reference... > "I know Kung Fu." > > "Show me." Yeah, but I always liked this more -- not sure why... NEO: Can you fly that thing? TRINITY: Not yet. TANK: Operator. TRINITY: Tank, I need a pilot program for a military M-109 helicopter. Regards, Nick FitzGerald ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:24:27 EST, Patrick Laverty said: > "I know Kung Fu." > > "Show me." At which point we'll need even better anti-virus software for memes, because otherwise you just can't win The Game. pgpNl5lwFjWbQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:18 PM, wrote: > I'm sorry, but that is AWESOME! Think about all the diseases that a > microchip can cure... Parkinson's, epilepsy, Alzhiemers, etc etc > > And OMFG! > "One philosophical question could arise once we'll be able to download a > person's whole brain onto a chip and then implant the chip >into someone > else's body." Not just download, but upload too. "I know Kung Fu." "Show me." ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
Chris Boyd to Michael Blanchard:
> > I'm sorry, but that is AWESOME! Think about all the diseases that
> > a microchip can cure... Parkinson's, epilepsy, Alzhiemers, etc
> > etc
> >
> > And OMFG!
> > "One philosophical question could arise once we'll be able to
> > download a person's whole brain onto a chip and then implant the
> > chip into someone else's body."
> >
> > Wouldn't it be cool to back up your brain? Sort through the
> > memories and go through them oh, think about cerebral-hackers
> > or cerebral-hijackers! Change someone's memories to whatever they
> > want Full on "total recall" baby! "why actually go on vacation
> > when you can simply remember going for a fraction of the cost!"
>
> You mean like in Johnny Mnemonic?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mnemonic
I think he said:
"total recall"
(with the quotes, note!) for a reason:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100802/
When a man goes for virtual vacation memories of the planet Mars, an
unexpected and harrowing series of events forces him to go to the
planet for real, or does he?
> Skip the movie and find a collection of Gibson's early works with
> the story in it.
Good advice, I'm sure.
In the case of Total Recall it's Philip K. Dick, in general, and his
short story "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" in particular. This
pre-dated the Gibson story by some 15 years. The 1990 Total Recall
featured Arnie in the main role but a remake with a different setting
for the background conflict is now in production with Colin Farrell in
the Quaid/Hauser role.
Final Cut, The Sixth Day, and perhaps most disturbingly, Strange Days
touch on (or thoroughly embrace) related themes, though that is far
from a complete listing of SF movies that do.
...
Trivia -- in The Matrix, Keanu's character (amongst other things) is
into _supplying_ fake memories on the black market ("follow the white
rabbit") in a kinda reversal of his role in Johnny Mnemonic...
Regards,
Nick FitzGerald
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Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
On 01/17/2012 06:58 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote: From: michael.blanch...@emc.com Date sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:18:47 -0500 >Change someone's memories to whatever they want Full on "total recall" >baby! "why actually go on vacation when you can simply remember going for a >fraction of the cost!" I'm sure the corporations are working on that even as we speak. Save a bundle on vacation time costs. "No, no, you went on vacation three weeks ago. don't you remember?" Catching a virus will take on a whole new meaning. Scott ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
From: michael.blanch...@emc.com Date sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:18:47 -0500 > Change someone's memories to whatever they want Full on "total recall" > baby! "why actually go on vacation when you can simply remember going for a > fraction of the cost!" I'm sure the corporations are working on that even as we speak. Save a bundle on vacation time costs. "No, no, you went on vacation three weeks ago. don't you remember?" == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org C:\WINDOWSC:\WINDOWS\GOC:\PC\CRAWL victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
On Jan 17, 2012, at 2:18 PM, wrote: > I'm sorry, but that is AWESOME! Think about all the diseases that a > microchip can cure... Parkinson's, epilepsy, Alzhiemers, etc etc > > And OMFG! > "One philosophical question could arise once we'll be able to download a > person's whole brain onto a chip and then implant the chip into someone > else's body." > > Wouldn't it be cool to back up your brain? Sort through the memories and go > through them oh, think about cerebral-hackers or cerebral-hijackers! > Change someone's memories to whatever they want Full on "total recall" > baby! "why actually go on vacation when you can simply remember going for a > fraction of the cost!" You mean like in Johnny Mnemonic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mnemonic Skip the movie and find a collection of Gibson's early works with the story in it. --Chris ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
It was teledildonics, but no need to quibble. BB On 1/17/12 12:01 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16305299 > > == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) > rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org > If you can tell good advice from bad advice, >you don't *need* any advice > victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ > http://twitter.com/rslade > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Did the borg start this way?
I'm sorry, but that is AWESOME! Think about all the diseases that a microchip can cure... Parkinson's, epilepsy, Alzhiemers, etc etc And OMFG! "One philosophical question could arise once we'll be able to download a person's whole brain onto a chip and then implant the chip into someone else's body." Wouldn't it be cool to back up your brain? Sort through the memories and go through them oh, think about cerebral-hackers or cerebral-hijackers! Change someone's memories to whatever they want Full on "total recall" baby! "why actually go on vacation when you can simply remember going for a fraction of the cost!" Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:01 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] Did the borg start this way? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16305299 == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org If you can tell good advice from bad advice, you don't *need* any advice victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
