ProGloball

2000-02-02 Thread Steve Kurtz

Hi Doug,

This reminded me of your work. I'm Cc Gary Kaeter, the author of this
page.
The relevant website of yours is :
http://www.socialtechnology.org/index.html
(to remind folks  help Gary).

Cheers,
Steve Kurtz





 We all want to help our planet and our future. That’s a natural fact!

 Most compassionate individuals throughout the world are concerned about
   finding a way, no matter how big or small, to contribute something
  useful with-in their means.

   Question is……How?

  All people have certain contributions with-in their means that can be
  used to assist in helping our environment and the future of the human
 race. Most would help a lot more if it were easier to find a place that
  suited them.

Our new web site http://www.progloball.com (still under construction) is
 going to try to provide a place for most, who feel they want to help in
 some way, to place themselves on a level that is comfortable for them.

You might call it an Internet Planet Placement Service.

  We also believe in the unlimited power of the World Wide Web when it
  comes to communications and bringing people from all over the planet
   together.

 This is an invitation for anyone who wants to contribute to this effort
 (progloball.com) to send any and all information that would add to this
 service. Opinions, articles, fact sheets, links, earth friendly product
 information, data on environmental jobs and careers, creative input on
  the continuing design and direction of the site, graphics or anything
you can think of that could assist in providing:

   * A web site that helps people who want to help……….. find a place to
 help.
   * A meeting place for creative and concerned individuals to build a
 web site that will grow into a much needed public service.




  The very first building blocks have been started in creating this new
  web site and can be viewed at www.progloball.com (still under
construction and not yet submitted to any browsers). If you have
something you would like us to consider adding to this site please don't
hesitate to contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

   Gary Kaeter
  


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Oregon Will Issue Sustainability Order

2000-02-02 Thread Steve Kurtz

Greetings,

I don't agree with:

 "In this instance, "Sustainability" means that
business and population growth could continue at no expense or
degradation to the environment..."

but they have recognized that there is a problem.

Steve

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Oregon Will Issue Sustainability Order
by Michelle Cole

Noting Oregon's historic role in passing the USA's first bottle bill,
promoting land-use planning, and protecting its beaches, Governor John
Kitzhaber is preparing to take what may be the most dramatic step yet:
requiring state government to conduct business in an environmentally
sustainable manner.  In this instance, "Sustainability" means that
business and population growth could continue at no expense or
degradation to the environment, a circumstance unrealized anywhere in
the United States.

Details are sketchy on how state government would make that vision a
reality.  But Kitzhaber, now drafting an executive order for spring
release, revealed his plan recently at a Portland banquet hosted by
Sustainable Northwest, which promotes economic development and
resource conservation.  "The state directs investment for economic
development, sets the rules for where and how communities can grow,
and establishes the parameters for environmental management," he said.
"It also consumes reams of paper, builds offices, buys power, paves
roads, manages forests and rangeland.  "Does this all happen with the
overarching goal of fostering sustainable economic growth that is
respectful of both our environment and our communities? I cannot tell
you that it does.  But I should be able to."

"Sustainable" is a term used frequently by government officials,
environmentalists, and private industry to describe a world in which
natural resources are consumed sparingly and replenished within a
lifetime.  Paula Burgess, the governor's assistant for natural
resources, said she prefers to define sustainability as "meeting the
needs of the present without compromising the ability of future
generations to meet their own needs."  "The problem we have now is
that our collective actions are clearly leading to the decline of
natural systems," she said.  Data from the Oregon Department of
Environmental Quality indicates the amount of waste and pollution
generated between 1994 and 1997 mirrored the state's surging
population growth.  In the future, a "sustainable" Oregon would see
population grow but waste and pollution decline.

Kitzhaber's executive order will not have the power to change law.
But as the state's chief executive, the governor does have the power
to direct agency policies and priorities.  As a result of an executive
order on sustainability, Burgess said agencies might buy recycled,
nontoxic or biodegradable goods.  The state would also become a more
efficient consumer of energy, water and fuel.  And there's a
possibility the administration could ask the Legislature to make tax
and regulatory changes designed to encourage landowners and businesses
to live more sustainably, she said.

During an interview earlier, Kitzhaber said it may be appropriate for
state agencies to follow the Natural Step, a set of guidelines for
sustainability developed 11 years ago by a Swedish physician.  Natural
Step was brought to the United States by Paul Hawken, founder of the
garden products retailer Smith  Hawken, and has been adopted by
several Oregon companies, including Nike Inc. and the wood products
manufacturer, Collins Pine.

Sarah Severn, director of environmental action at Nike, describes
Natural Step as "a way of opening people's eyes to the physical limits
that exist in our world and then stimulating their imagination to
create products and services that are in line with that framework."
As a result of Natural Step and other sustainability initiatives, Nike
now blends 3 percent of organic cotton into its T-shirts.  Converting
even that small amount of organic cotton prevented tens of thousands
of pounds of agricultural chemicals from being released into the
environment in 1998, according to Nike.  "Ultimately our goal is to
have a percentage of organic cotton in all our cotton products,"
Severn said.

Collins Pine's plant in Klamath Falls adopted a zero-waste policy
after 600 employees received Natural Step training.  "Zero waste"
means the plant is committed to eliminating waste or putting it back
into use.  For Collins Pine, the strategy helped save $1 million the
first year, said Duke Castle, a member of the executive committee for
the Oregon Natural Step Network.

Sweden, Holland and other Northern European countries were the first
to incorporate sustainability into government and business practices.
In the past year, a handful of states -- Minnesota, Wisconsin,
Connecticut, Florida and North Carolina -- have begun to talk about
how they might adopt sustainable practices.  "If done right, Oregon
could be the first state to really weave together sustainability into
an effective, overall 

unemployment stats

2000-02-02 Thread Victor Milne



Could someone on the list (maybe Ed Weick?) tell me the basis 
for the official unemployment stats? Are they just the number of people 
collecting EI benefits calculated as a percentage of the total work force, or do 
they use some other method of determining the number of people "actively seeking 
work"?



Re: Fw: One Country Two worlds [more than 2...]

2000-02-02 Thread Ray E. Harrell


It is because I admire Brad that I continue this and he
may answer what I say but I can speak only from my own
perceptions in my work and life and the experience of
those perceptions. So here goes but I cannot continue
the discussion beyond this post.
Ray
"Brad McCormick, Ed.D." wrote:
(snip) If Ray is disturbed by my denigration of
unreflected life in all its forms (what I
intentionally provocatively call: "ethnic formations"), (snip)
Actually I am disturbed by what you expressed.
As the poet Jerome Rothenberg has said on many
occasions, "there is no culture or people that has
survived by twiddling their thumbs and speaking
in half-formed thoughts." A good case can be made
for that belief as a left over piece of 19th century
Utilitarian thought that was used to justify aggression.
Edward T. Hall had to train that attitude out of the American
Diplomats and businessmen because they were in
danger of failure in both areas. The multi-linguistic
future on the internet puts us all in danger if we see
ourselves "above" ethnicity rather than a part of it.

I can only say that I hope I made it clear that
my

critique is not aimed at "primitive peoples"

but at everything which is *primitive* (i.e.,
not radically grounded in self-accountable
reflective reconstruction of all that which
merely is given) -- wherever it occurs. (snip)

Nothing is primitive in that sense. Just relative to
its place in time/space and its growth structure.
Primitive more accurately means Primal but to
me it is a fake issue. I never met a primitive but
I have met provincials and ignorance.

Neither will it do to reply to this that: "Everyone
makes
mistakes." Galilean natural science, Hegelian dialectic
and Husserlian phenomenological reflection are all
self-grounding projects for [albeit iteratively and
asymptotically] overcoming error in every aspect
of life.
The books of C. Castenada caused a stir a while back
because no one wanted to admit that the people, he
claimed taught him, existed. Don Juan was compared
to Husserl and as one scientist said to me, "If these
people exist then we have committed a monstrous
three hundred years." Well I believe the books
are
fake but the beginning of any young Shaman's instruction
is "be observant!" and "put your feet where no one else
has stepped." My teachers were far more reflective,
artistic and outrageous than Castenada's stories. They
also dealt with some of the nation's greatest scientists
both Newtonian and Quantum from a place of equals.
They were neither afraid of science nor worshiped it.
They also had a healthy believe in the evolution of
consciousness but in much too complicated a way to
consider one cultural universe more important than
another.

That the 17th Century Chinese recognized in
Galilean natural science "something new, because true for
everyone who took the effort to learn it", and not just
true for those childreared to believe it (--Joseph Needham),
seems to me to lead to one of two possibilities: (1) The
Chinese understood that *their own limited form of life* was
superseded by the Universality of Science, or (2) That the

Chinese are just like "The West" and so their
admiration for
Science just proves they aren't "real peoples" any more
than the Jesuits who brought Galilean science
to them
Jerome Rothenberg spent several years with the Iroquois
studying the poetry contained within their everyday life and
the ceremonials. From that point on he concluded that most
of the Indigenous people's he worked with were "Technicians
of the Sacred" and far more subtle and complicated than the
Jesuits whose rigidity made science seem both universal and
profound. How could you compare the Chinese language
with its tones and subtleties as well as the calligraphy to such
"limited" forms as most Western languages and science?
Europe has its genius and science is just another adolescent
in its history. Its genius is in its art. More about that
later.
Finally, there is Margaret Mead's _New Lives for
Old_,
and a recent report in the NYT of one traditional culture
in Africa, where the elders have undertaken a
thoroughgoing inventory of their traditional culture,
to see what parts of it are still viable and which
are not worth preserving (e.g., ritual genital
mutilation of children).
Another shamanic rule is that one must always know
the past while living in the present and manifesting the
future. It's in the language. (check out Benjamin Lee
Whorf and his exploration of the Pueblo verbs). Of
course we are not all the same. Cherokees were
wonderful at language, science and business in the
19th century. It was our success that created the
envy that destroyed what writers at the time were
calling an "American Athens." I don't know much
about Africa, they have little problem speaking for
themselves these days.

I see these developments as
somewhat similar to our recently having
taught some apes to speak (ASL, etc.):

I'm not sure where you are going here but I'm not
aware of any humans that can