Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Anno domini 2020 Thu, 27 Aug 10:24:24 +0100 Thomas Adam scripsit: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:07:56AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > None of them have FvwmPrompt in it, not these versions and not the other on > > the disks. > > > > Looks like no version < 2.0.42 ever made it to the mirrors. > > Depends where you look, I suppose. :) > > I found fvwm-2.0.40.tar.gz here: > > http://debian.lth.se/pub/X11/fvwm/ > > fvwm-2.0.40.tar.gz1995-12-20 21:28466K > > I downloaded it, messed about with gcc and managed to get it to compile. > > FvwmPrompt is pretty simple -- just asks "Yes" or "No". I can see why FvwmForm > replaced it. > > Mystery solved, and I've more versions to add to the archive now. > > As it's only 466K, I'm attaching it to this email for posterity. > > -- Thomas > Oh, this is a good find, thank you! Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 03:03:10PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > Wow, fvwm history that is before my time? (I think.) I managed to track down Drew Moseley (the original author of FvwmPrompt), and he had this to say: Hi Thomas, Thanks for reaching out. Yes, indeed that was me. That's great to hear that fvwm is still under active maintainership. What kind of systems is it used on? I don't recall the specifics but I had switched to fvwm for my use on the SunOS systems at the University of Florida and wanted to be able to confirm logouts and such. The default at the time was twm if I recall correctly and it had that. When the fvwm plugin architecture was available it ended up being a simple thing to implement so I did. I sent it over to the maintainer and he replied saying thanks and that was the last I heard of it. Drew I think he appreciated the trip down memory lane. I'm mindful to expand the existing fvwm history page we have with these tidbits of information -- it's nicely unique. The maintainer at the time Drew submitted FvwmPrompt would have been Chuck Hines, I imagine. I did reply back to him -- he wishes us all well, and is delighted that fvwm is still continuing. As it happens, the module interface Drew refers to hasn't changed much since 1995. Sure, more fields of data have been added, but the way data is exchanged between fvwm and modules remains largely the same. Not bad going for 25 years of code! Anyhow, I think this now wraps that mystery up. Kindly, Thomas
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:37:03 +0100 Thomas Adam scripsit: > Hi, > > I'm curious about a piece of Fvwm history. In the git log for fvwm2, the > initial revision (which is when Jason committed the Fvwm code to CVS), notes > the following for Fvwm 2.0.41: > > Removed FvwmPrompt (use FvwmForm instead, since it's better anyways) > > This was sometime in 1998, although I'm presuming 2.0.41 was before then. > > Has anyone gpt any information about FvwmPrompt? If it were a forerunner to > FvwmForm I've not heard of it before. I note from the old mailing list > archives that it was a compiled module, but I can't find the code anywhere. > > Dust off the cobwebs, folks! > > I'm only asking as I have just committed a new binary to Fvwm3 called > "FvwmPrompt", and hadn't realised it had existed already. I thought I was > being so clever with the choice of name as well... That'll teach me! :) > > -- Thomas > > Just saw that archive.org has a SUSE from 1996: https://archive.org/details/suse-june_1996_release_i386 It has the oldest version of FVWM on it I have ever worked with - actually, that was one of the versons on the first linux disk sets that got me into linux :) -r--r--r-- 1 root root 59892 Jul 27 1993 tsx-11.mit.edu/sources/usr.bin.X11/fvwm-0.91b.tar.gz for the versions of fvwm in question: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 324178 Okt 29 1994 ftp.funet.fi/util/X11/contrib/fvwm-1.24n.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 root root 329170 Mai 7 1996 ftp.uni-erlangen.de/680x0/X11R6.1/fvwm95-2.0.41e.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 root root805 Apr 18 1996 sunsite.unc.edu-REST/X11/window-managers/fvwm-2.0.42.lsm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 7 1996 sunsite.unc.edu-REST/X11/window-managers/fvwm-2.0.42.tar.gz-is-in-pkg-fvwm_s -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 581985 Jun 4 1996 suse/zq1/fvwm_s.tgz None of them have FvwmPrompt in it, not these versions and not the other on the disks. Looks like no version < 2.0.42 ever made it to the mirrors. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
