Re: FVWM: icons

2013-04-26 Thread Ingo Wardinski

found the error. was something in my settings that screwed thinks up.
sorry for bothering
ingo



Re: FVWM: icons

2013-04-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski

On 04/25/2013 10:38 PM, Dan Espen wrote:

Ingo Wardinski  writes:


Dear all,
perhaps, this is a problem with a very simple solution.
I try to force applicitions to iconify without icons. So I set

Style "Thunderbird" NoIcon,!IconTitle
and
Style * NoIcon

this is working for xterm, but not for thunderbird, firefox emacs and
some others. Certainly, I'm overlooking something simple here any help
would be very much appreciated


I can't duplicate the problem.
The applications you mention provide their own icons which is
controlled by the IconOverride style.

(You can get xterm to generate it's own icon using the -ai option.)

I tried to duplicate the problem using IconOverride, couldn't do it
but you might still want to look at whether you use IconOverride.

What release of fvwm are you using?

I'm using 2.5.30. that's the version which comes with ubuntu 12.04 
(lts). Are you saying I should set

Style * NoIcon, IconOverride
I also tried
Style ** EWMHMiniIconOverride, IconOverride
but strangely this is working for the first time I minimize the 
application and the second time the application the icon appears again.

greets
ingo



FVWM: icons

2013-04-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski

Dear all,
perhaps, this is a problem with a very simple solution.
I try to force applicitions to iconify without icons. So I set

Style "Thunderbird" NoIcon,!IconTitle
and
Style * NoIcon

this is working for xterm, but not for thunderbird, firefox emacs and 
some others. Certainly, I'm overlooking something simple here any help 
would be very much appreciated


greets
ingo



Re: FVWM: windowlist question

2011-11-09 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Good Morning,
I had a look at FvwmWindowMenu, and I have a couple of questions.
Is there a way to sort the window entries in FvwmWindowMenu either by class
name, or any other criteria? The manpage says that menu entries are
placed by WindowListFunc. How could I sort entries by using
WindowListFunc?

Also, I would like to perform different actions on the entries of
FvwmWindowMenu, e.g. warptowindow or move the window to this page. I
was thinking to define some submenus with addtomenu and popup
actions. Has anyone done something like that before and would give
some advice?

I also would like to print the specific page number of a window, and
the manpage of FvwmWindowMenu gives the format specifiers of the
item string, but there is no specifier for the page number. Am I
right? I would be very happy if that could be included in a future
version of FvwmWindowMenu. 

Thanks in advance
ingo



Re: FVWM: windowlist question

2011-11-08 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Tuesday, November 8, 2011 at 18:35:30 (+), Thomas Adam wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: windowlist question
>
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 07:09:37PM +0100, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > this afternoon I was playing around with fvwmiconman, windowlist and
> > fvwmwinlist just to figure out what may be the best for me. So
> 
> Do not use FvwmWinList for anything.
> 
> > windowlist is my favorite. Unfortunately, I cannot tweak it not to
> > display miniicons. I set something like
> > Mouse 2 R   A   WindowList NoCurrentDeskTitle, NoGeometry, \
> >   CurrentAtEnd, NoIcons, MaxLabelWidth 50, SelectOnRelease Alt_L
> > 
> > This works also when the options are not seperated by comas. I also
> 
> No -- this is simply a facet of ParseTokens().
> 
> > tried the fvwmwinlist module, but I cannot avoid icons be displayed,
> > unless I discard definitions of miniicons for applications.
> 
> Correct.  How else is the WindowList to know which miniicons to use?

Ok, this was my question, actually.
I will have a look on FvwmWindowMenu too.

thanks
ingo





FVWM: windowlist question

2011-11-08 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi there,
this afternoon I was playing around with fvwmiconman, windowlist and
fvwmwinlist just to figure out what may be the best for me. So
windowlist is my favorite. Unfortunately, I cannot tweak it not to
display miniicons. I set something like
Mouse 2 R   A   WindowList NoCurrentDeskTitle, NoGeometry, \
  CurrentAtEnd, NoIcons, MaxLabelWidth 50, SelectOnRelease Alt_L

This works also when the options are not seperated by comas. I also
tried the fvwmwinlist module, but I cannot avoid icons be displayed,
unless I discard definitions of miniicons for applications.

I'm currently running fvwm 2.5.26 on linux (2.6.32-34)
Any help would be very much appreciated
ingo



FVWM: fvwmiconman question

2011-11-08 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi there,
I try to set up fvwmiconman for my needs, therefore I use the conig
given in the fvwmiconman manpage. There is a line saying
FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 1 N sendcommand Iconify

What does the N stands for?
and; can I swallow fvwmiconman into fvwmbuttons?
TIA and greets,
ingo



FVWM: acroread9 -- Where's the minimize button?

2011-10-29 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Friday, October 28, 2011 at 14:12:09 (-0700), Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: ]
> Subject: FVWM: acroread9 -- Where's the minimize button?
>
> 
> Is it just me, or has anyone else experienced an oddity where the window
> containing acroread, unlike all other applications windows, fails to have
> a standard sort of minimization button in the upper right hand corner of the
> window frame?
> 
> Is this is a known problem?
> 
> Is there a workaround?

buttons are working for me on a acroread window (fvwm2.5.26) 
You want to set 
Style * MWMFunctions, MWMDecor, HintOverride

greets,
ingo





Re: FVWM: EWMH hints and fvwm

2010-10-09 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Saturday, October 9, 2010 at 14:01:15 (+0100), Thomas Adam wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: EWMH hints and fvwm
>
> On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 02:54:33PM +0200, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I have a simple question concerning ewmh and fvwm. Recently I was
> > forced to recompile fvwm on my machine, since then I have been getting
> > (.xsession-errors)
> > 
> > [fvwm][__execute_function]: <> No such command 
> > 'EWMHActivateWindowFunc'
> > 
> > which caused by this line in my settings
> > 
> > DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc
> > 
> > at least this is the only occurence of it. I thought that I have
> > missed something while compiling fvwm, because
> 
> Yes -- that's right.  Some actions on windows (such as when activity happens
> if a window were in a EWMH-compliant taskbar) would trigger this window.
> The error is harmless in this case, and you're definitely better off doing:
> 
> DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc
> 
> Than you are doing this:
> 
> AddToFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc I Nop
> 
> As that still grabs the window, which might be undesirable in some
> situations.  But either way, FVWM will still spit that line out to STDERR if
> the function cannot be found, as the code expects to call it.
> 
> > fvwm --version gives
> > 
> > fvwm 2.5.26 compiled on Oct  8 2010 at 12:29:31
> > with support for: ReadLine, RPlay, Stroke, XPM, PNG, SVG, Shape, XShm,
> > SM, Xinerama, XRender, XCursor, XFT, NLS 
> > 
> > How can I add EWMH hints to the support list? I guess this is done
> > while configuring the makefile, at least the manpage is telling that
> > it should be possible to compile fvwm with EWMH hints. 
> 
> No, you get them all for free, you can't turn them off.

Thanks for reply, this is good to know.

> 
> > p.s.: For some reasons I would like to stay with fvwm 2.5.26 
> 
> Why?

Well, it is not a profound reasoning, but I do have a collection of
patches for round corners, translucency, and some other fancy features
which only applies to this version. I'm not skilled enough to port
them to a more recent version.

greetz,
ingo





FVWM: EWMH hints and fvwm

2010-10-09 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi there,
I have a simple question concerning ewmh and fvwm. Recently I was
forced to recompile fvwm on my machine, since then I have been getting
(.xsession-errors)

[fvwm][__execute_function]: <> No such command 'EWMHActivateWindowFunc'

which caused by this line in my settings

DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc

at least this is the only occurence of it. I thought that I have
missed something while compiling fvwm, because

fvwm --version gives

fvwm 2.5.26 compiled on Oct  8 2010 at 12:29:31
with support for: ReadLine, RPlay, Stroke, XPM, PNG, SVG, Shape, XShm,
SM, Xinerama, XRender, XCursor, XFT, NLS 

How can I add EWMH hints to the support list? I guess this is done
while configuring the makefile, at least the manpage is telling that
it should be possible to compile fvwm with EWMH hints. 

What would be the right optio(s)? 

many thanks in advance
ingo

p.s.: For some reasons I would like to stay with fvwm 2.5.26 




Re: FVWM: focus question

2009-06-10 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Wednesday, June 10, 2009 at 16:23:09 (+0100), Thomas Adam wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: focus question
>
> 2009/6/10 Ingo Wardinski :
> > Hi all,
> > I recently upgraded to fvwm 2.5.26. Since then I have been observing
> > that gnuplot x11 windows steal focus. for instance, I type a gnuplot
> > plotting command in an xterm then window showing the plot is getting
> > the focus even if the mouse is not in this window. In order to put the
> > focus back on my xterm I have to move the mouse out of the xterm and
> > back in. Sometimes, I feel very unpleasant with this behaviour.
> > Further details, I use:
> > ColormapFocus FollowsFocus
> > Style * GrabFocusOff
> > Style * MouseFocus
> > Style * SloppyFocus
> 
> This is silly -- in this case SloppyFocus overrides the definition for
> MouseFocus -- so remove the MouseFocus style completely.
> 
> > #
> > I tried
> >
> > Style Gnuplot FPClickToFocus, !FPFocusByProgram
> 
> You would have meant "!FPFocusByFunction" in this case, and -not-
> !FPFocusByProgram since in this case, the GnuPlot window you're
> describing is subject to the EWMHActivateWindowFunc -- the actual
> solution to your problem would be the following:
> 
> DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc
> 
> ... as many users find the default behaviour annoying.
> 
> -- Thomas Adam

Thanks, it werks.
ingo






FVWM: focus question

2009-06-10 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi all,
I recently upgraded to fvwm 2.5.26. Since then I have been observing
that gnuplot x11 windows steal focus. for instance, I type a gnuplot 
plotting command in an xterm then window showing the plot is getting
the focus even if the mouse is not in this window. In order to put the
focus back on my xterm I have to move the mouse out of the xterm and
back in. Sometimes, I feel very unpleasant with this behaviour.
Further details, I use:
ColormapFocus FollowsFocus
Style * GrabFocusOff
Style * MouseFocus
Style * SloppyFocus
#
I tried

Style Gnuplot FPClickToFocus, !FPFocusByProgram 

which doesn't change the above behaviour
I start gnuplot like gnuplot -noraise.

Finally, xprop tells me:

WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
window state: Normal
icon window: 0x0
_WIN_AREA(CARDINAL) = 6, 0
_WIN_WORKSPACE(CARDINAL) = 0
_WIN_LAYER(CARDINAL) = 4
_WIN_STATE(CARDINAL) = 0
_NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 1, 1, 20, 1
_KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 1, 1, 20, 1
_NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, 
_NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, 
_NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, 
_NET_WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_ACTION_STICK
_NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 0
_NET_WM_ICON_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = 0x47, 0x6e, 0x75, 0x70, 0x6c, 0x6f, 
0x74, 0x20, 0x28, 0x77, 0x69, 0x6e, 0x64, 0x6f, 0x77, 0x20, 0x69, 0x64, 0x20, 
0x3a, 0x20, 0x30, 0x29
_NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = 0x47, 0x6e, 0x75, 0x70, 0x6c, 0x6f, 0x74, 
0x20, 0x28, 0x77, 0x69, 0x6e, 0x64, 0x6f, 0x77, 0x20, 0x69, 0x64, 0x20, 0x3a, 
0x20, 0x30, 0x29
WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
Client accepts input or input focus: True
Initial state is Normal State.
bitmap id # to use for icon: 0x420008b
bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x420008c
window id # of group leader: 0x421
_NET_WM_ICON(CARDINAL) = 64, 64,

[!!!numbers deleted, otherwise the mail is getting to long!!!]

_MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x3, 0x3e, 0x7e, 0x0, 0x0
_NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 69206153
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x4200088
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x421
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 26516
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "C"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "mag33"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
program specified location: 0, 0
program specified minimum size: 100 by 100
window gravity: NorthWest
WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, _NET_WM_PING, 
_NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST 
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "", ""
WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "Gnuplot (window id : 0)"
_NET_WM_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = 0x47, 0x6e, 0x75, 0x70, 0x6c, 0x6f,
0x74, 0x20, 0x28, 0x77, 0x69, 0x6e, 0x64, 0x6f, 0x77, 0x20, 0x69,
0x64, 0x20, 0x3a, 0x20, 0x30, 0x29 
WM_NAME(STRING) = "Gnuplot (window id : 0)"
_NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = 0x47, 0x6e, 0x75, 0x70, 0x6c, 0x6f, 0x74,
0x20, 0x28, 0x77, 0x69, 0x6e, 0x64, 0x6f, 0x77, 0x20, 0x69, 0x64,
0x20, 0x3a, 0x20, 0x30, 0x29

Any help would be very much appreciated.
ingo



Re: FVWM: Off topic: Weather applet

2008-09-18 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 20:31:23 (+0200), Ingo Wardinski wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: Off topic: Weather applet
>
> [ On Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 11:01:08 (-0700), Perry Hutchison wrote: 
> ]
> > Subject: Re: FVWM: Off topic: Weather applet
> >
> > > http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local//GMXX0109?dayf=5&unit=m). 
> > > However, since a while I can't get the current weather only the
> > > forecast for 5 days ...
> > 
> > I know nothing at all about xoap, but that "dayf=5" in the URL
> > sure looks like a request for a 5-day forecast.  Maybe visit
> > the site with a browser, and see what kind of URLs are involved
> > in retrieving current conditions?
> 

I found the missing option by myself. So the complete url should be
http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local//GMXX0109?cc=*&dayf=5&unit=m

Thanks anyway
ingo




Re: FVWM: Off topic: Weather applet

2008-09-18 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Thursday, September 18, 2008 at 11:01:08 (-0700), Perry Hutchison wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: Off topic: Weather applet
>
> > http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local//GMXX0109?dayf=5&unit=m). 
> > However, since a while I can't get the current weather only the
> > forecast for 5 days ...
> 
> I know nothing at all about xoap, but that "dayf=5" in the URL
> sure looks like a request for a 5-day forecast.  Maybe visit
> the site with a browser, and see what kind of URLs are involved
> in retrieving current conditions?

Exactly, and I have already done it. What is missing on these sites
are the information of the actual/current weather, which have been
there. So it seems that something changed on the xoap site. Certainly,
I'm not the only one who is fetching the weather report and forecast
this way from these sites. What I'm asking is if someone knows how to
get the actual weather conditions?
TIA and regards,
ingo
 





FVWM: Off topic: Weather applet

2008-09-18 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Dear all,
I'm fetching the weather information of my home town from
xoap.weather.com using wget (precisely:
http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local//GMXX0109?dayf=5&unit=m). 
However, since a while I can't get the current weather only the
forecast for 5 days. Does anyone else had have a similar problem,
solved it and would like to share some insights? 
TIA and regards,
ingo
 



FVWM: fvwm and patches

2008-03-06 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi all,
since a while several patches have been existing to allow fvwm to
exhibit menutranslucency and other features. However, a part of these
features never made into fvwm. Currently, the users (which want such
features) have to apply patches to the actual fvwm-version in order to
get these, again and again as the fvwm-version changes. This seems to
me slightly dissatisfactory, as it consumes time which has been
spent already to patch a previous version, not to mention the time
which is needed to adjust the patches.

I'm sure there are profound reasons not to include such features as
menutranslucency, topborder, inactivefont, round corners , etc. into
fvwm. Which are these??
kindly,
ingo



Re: FVWM: Widget fg color

2008-02-27 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 07:18:30 (-0700), Jaimos Skriletz wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: Widget fg color
[snip]
> 
> notice that the script isn't striping out any spaces, the reason it
> can't find that color is because you have additional spaces. when it
> tries to find the color " orange " in the list it can't match it to
> anything. 
> 
> What you want is ForeColor {orange}

Exactly!! Thank you!!
ingo






FVWM: Widget fg color

2008-02-27 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi all,
I try to set a widget foreground color to differ from the default, i.e. 

WindowTitle {Weather_applet}
WindowSize  210 210
WindowPosition  1038 634
Colorset12
Widget  1
Property
TypeItemDraw
Size100 15
Position71 82
Font"shadow=0 se:xft:sans:size=7:antialias=True"
Flags   NoFocus NoReliefString Left
ForeColor   { orange }
Main
Case message of
SingleClic:
Begin
Quit
End
End
where the default is defined by coloset 9 
Colorset 9 fg #ff, bg #f1eee0, hi #f1eee0, sh #f1eee0, fgsh #f1eee0, Tint 
black 35, RootTransparent

However, fvwm(-2.5.23) is complaining: Cannot parse color " orange "
What does that mean, and more generally, how can I set up a widget fg
color differently from the default? 

TIA
ingo




Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-26 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 15:29:38 (+0100), Dominik Vogt wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:24:17PM +0100, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > [ On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 15:20:19 (+0100), Dominik Vogt wrote: ]
> > > Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:07:04PM +0100, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > > > I managed to get core file and I attached the output of gdb fvwm2 core
> > > > and where below. It seems something related to ewmh.
> > > > Any help would be very appreciated.
> > > [snip]
> > > > #0  ewmh_MoveResizeWindow (fw=0x0, ev=0x6cb9e0, style=0x0, any=0)
> > > > at ewmh_events.c:194
> > > 
> > > You need to upgrade to the latest code from CVS (e.g. a daily
> > > snapshot).  The crash is already fixed in 2.5.25 (not released
> > > yet).
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks, for sharing this information. Do I still need the patches for
> > menutranlucency, roundedcorners etc or are all these features included
> > in .25?
> 
> You still need the patches.
> 
> By the way, I am just building the 2.5.25 release, so if you don't
> want to use code from CVS, just wait until the tarball is
> available on the ftp server (probably today or tomorrow).

Cool!! Hopefully, the patches for menutranslucency etc want work for
.25.
But anyway thanks for your and all the others help on this issue.
ingo






Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-26 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 15:20:19 (+0100), Dominik Vogt wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:07:04PM +0100, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > I managed to get core file and I attached the output of gdb fvwm2 core
> > and where below. It seems something related to ewmh.
> > Any help would be very appreciated.
> [snip]
> > #0  ewmh_MoveResizeWindow (fw=0x0, ev=0x6cb9e0, style=0x0, any=0)
> > at ewmh_events.c:194
> 
> You need to upgrade to the latest code from CVS (e.g. a daily
> snapshot).  The crash is already fixed in 2.5.25 (not released
> yet).
> 

Thanks, for sharing this information. Do I still need the patches for
menutranlucency, roundedcorners etc or are all these features included
in .25?
ingo






FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-26 Thread Ingo Wardinski
I managed to get core file and I attached the output of gdb fvwm2 core
and where below. It seems something related to ewmh.
Any help would be very appreciated.
ingo

GNU gdb 6.6-debian
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu"...
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXft.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXft.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libz.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libstroke.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libstroke.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libSM.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libSM.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libICE.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libICE.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXext.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXext.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libfribidi.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libfribidi.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0...Reading symbols from 
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1000.11...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0...Reading symbols from 
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0.1200.11...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0...Reading symbols from 
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.1200.11...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0...Reading symbols from 
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1200.11...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2...done.
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Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...done.
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Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgsf-1.so.114...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgsf-1.so.114
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcroco-0.6.so.3...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libcroco-0.6.so.3
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2...done.
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Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib/libpthread.so.0...done.
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Reading symbols from /lib/libbz2.so.1.0...done.
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Reading symbols from /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so
Core was generated by `fvwm2'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  ewmh_MoveResizeWindow (fw=0x0, ev=0x6cb9e0, style=0x0, any=0)
at ewmh_events.c:194
194 if (
(gdb) where
#0  ewmh_MoveResizeWindow (fw=0x0, ev=0x6cb9e0, style=0x0, any=0)
at ewmh_events.c:194
#1  0x00466f4f in EWMH_ProcessClientMessage (
exc=) at ewmh_events.c:1485
#2  0x0042c43f in HandleClient

Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Monday, February 25, 2008 at 17:39:53 (+0100), Jesús Guerrero wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:31:14 +0100
> Ingo Wardinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > [ On Monday, February 25, 2008 at 17:15:43 (+0100), Jesús Guerrero wrote: ]
> > > Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
> > >
> > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:31:36 +0100
> > > 
> > > Mmmm, I can't be sure, but I don't think that those patches can be
> > > applied without manually fixing some rejects. Those are the original
> > > patches, and were designed to be used against older fvwm versions.
> > > 
> > 
> > Currently, there two sets of patches available at the above url, one
> > for 2.5.18 and the other 2.5.23. The author tested tohose against
> > 2.5.18 and 2.5.23, respectively. I took and applied the patches for
> > 2.5.23. 
> 
> Oh, I see. Sorry. I didn't know.
> 
> > > I don't know what do you mean. Transparent colorsets on panels and
> > > the like were supported on .18 as well. If you are talking about the
> > > translucency patch for menus, you need that on .23 as well. That patch
> > > has never been integrated into fvwm. So, you need it anyway.
> > 
> > I meant menutranslucency.
> 
> You still need the patch. .23 has no additional support for translucency.

Yes I know. I downloaded the set of patches for .23 and applied it to
.23 and menutranslucency is working as expexted. This is not a
problem at all. 

My initial guess was that these patches caused esperanza and then x to
crash. Now I think it is something in .23 which makes the cock up
(broadly speaking). Because, recent esperanza works with .18 _but_ the
same version _do not_ with .23 with and without the patches.

> 
> > Okay, I will give it a try, but I'm afraid my ~/.xinitrc isn't read by
> > gdm.
> 
> You need to boot on console. Usually this is achieved by booting on runlevel
> 3. If you are in X, you can shut down Xdm usually doing "init 3", which in 
> turn
> will drive you to runlevel 3.
> 
> After that, you can use startx to start an X session. And then, ~/.xinitrc 
> should
> be read.

This may hold for xdm, I'm not sure about gdm I'll give it
go. Otherwise I have to switch to xdm.

cheers,
ingo






Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Monday, February 25, 2008 at 17:15:43 (+0100), Jesús Guerrero wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:31:36 +0100
> 
> Mmmm, I can't be sure, but I don't think that those patches can be
> applied without manually fixing some rejects. Those are the original
> patches, and were designed to be used against older fvwm versions.
> 

Currently, there two sets of patches available at the above url, one
for 2.5.18 and the other 2.5.23. The author tested tohose against
2.5.18 and 2.5.23, respectively. I took and applied the patches for
2.5.23. 

> 
> > 1.) fvwm-2.5.23 + patches + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
> > 2.) fvwm-2.5.23 + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
> > 3.) fvwm-2.5.23 + patches + xmms2-0.2DrJekyll + esperanza
> > 4.) fvwm-2.5.23 + xmms2-0.2DrJekyll + esperanza
> 
> There's also a chance that the xmms2 stuff is acting in a broken way,
> just like xmms used to. That shouldn't make fvwm segfault, though.
> 
> > this used to work fine before I updated to fvwm-2.5.23 in order to 
> > have neat features like translucency etc.
> 
> I don't know what do you mean. Transparent colorsets on panels and
> the like were supported on .18 as well. If you are talking about the
> translucency patch for menus, you need that on .23 as well. That patch
> has never been integrated into fvwm. So, you need it anyway.

I meant menutranslucency.

> 
> > I would appreciate very much any advice on how to debug my fvwm
> > session. Can I force fvwm to output/log any communication between
> > applications and X server?
> 
> I use this in my ~/.xinitrc
> 
> fvwm &>~/logs/fvwm.log 2>&1

Okay, I will give it a try, but I'm afraid my ~/.xinitrc isn't read by
gdm.
 
ingo





Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Monday, February 25, 2008 at 16:31:36 (+0100), Ingo Wardinski wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
>
> [ On Monday, February 25, 2008 at 16:06:32 (+0100), Jesús Guerrero wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:14:09 -0700
> > Jaimos Skriletz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:35:55AM +0100, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I see some oddities in the behaviour of fvwm after I installed
> > > > fvwm-2.5.23 and applied various patches to obtain translucency,
> > > > roundcorners, etc. In fact when I start esperanza (xmms2 client) my X
> > > > crashes. I checked several logs, but I couldn't find what is causing
> > > > the problem. So my primary guess is that it might be related to the
> > > > applied patches, because everything was fine before the patches
> > > > applied. Does someone else have similar problems?
> > > 
> > > You'll probabaly have to do some debugging to fix your issue.
> > > 
> > > One method might be to use Style statments to ensure esperanza is not 
> > > using any of the features provided by the patches. If this gives you the 
> > > stability you can then start applying the styles you want one at a time 
> > > until you find which one is causing the crash.
> > > 
> > > another option is to figure out what patch(s) are causing the conflict by 
> > > applying them one at a time and testing the results.
> > > 
> > > Once you figure out what patch(s) are causing the problem then you can 
> > > direct the bug to the patch matainer and hope he is helpful in solving 
> > > the issue.
> > > 
> > > these are just suggestions to try to get you up and running.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > jaimos
> > > 
> > > 
> > I don't know if you are using the patches that I host at 
> > jesgue.homelinux.org,
> > but if that's the case then you'll probably need to debug a bit.
> > 
> > I just host them, and I modified some of them several times to allow them
> > to continue living, but I just did the necessary modifications, and I don't
> > understand most of them at all, since the code is not mine and I didn't
> > really look too deep at the fvwm source code.
> > 
> > Some structures in fvwm changed/got added, and those patches were planed 
> > against
> > older fvwm versions. It is highly probable that something is seriously 
> > screwed in
> > some of them (specially the fluxbox borders one hehehe). I don't have the 
> > time
> > nor the interest to look into them (otherwise I would probably try to clean
> > them to integrate some of them into fvwm properly).
> > 
> > You should try to apply on one of them, and try, and so on, Until you find 
> > which
> > is the responsible for the segfault. Looking into the X logs and output on 
> > console
> > might (or might not) give you some hints on what is causing the problem.
> > 
> 
> I took the patches from http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~u15dm4/fvwm/
> and I tried different setups
> 1.) fvwm-2.5.23 + patches + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
> 2.) fvwm-2.5.23 + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
> 3.) fvwm-2.5.23 + patches + xmms2-0.2DrJekyll + esperanza
> 4.) fvwm-2.5.23 + xmms2-0.2DrJekyll + esperanza
> 
> all don't work and led to crash the X!!
> 
> 5.) fvwm-2.5.18 + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
> 
> this used to work fine before I updated to fvwm-2.5.23 in order to 
> have neat features like translucency etc.
> 
> As I mention earlier, I checked the X logs, but there were no
> indications what went wrong. The X crashes when I call esperanza via
> Fvwmscript or from command line. 
> 
> I would appreciate very much any advice on how to debug my fvwm
> session. Can I force fvwm to output/log any communication between
> applications and X server?

I did some further "research"
in tcsh I did
unlimited coredumpsize
and in bash I set ulimit -c 1
then I called esperanza
to get a corefile , but I even do not get a core file.
I'm puzzled, any suggestions?

ingo










Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski
[ On Monday, February 25, 2008 at 16:06:32 (+0100), Jesús Guerrero wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:14:09 -0700
> Jaimos Skriletz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:35:55AM +0100, Ingo Wardinski wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I see some oddities in the behaviour of fvwm after I installed
> > > fvwm-2.5.23 and applied various patches to obtain translucency,
> > > roundcorners, etc. In fact when I start esperanza (xmms2 client) my X
> > > crashes. I checked several logs, but I couldn't find what is causing
> > > the problem. So my primary guess is that it might be related to the
> > > applied patches, because everything was fine before the patches
> > > applied. Does someone else have similar problems?
> > 
> > You'll probabaly have to do some debugging to fix your issue.
> > 
> > One method might be to use Style statments to ensure esperanza is not using 
> > any of the features provided by the patches. If this gives you the 
> > stability you can then start applying the styles you want one at a time 
> > until you find which one is causing the crash.
> > 
> > another option is to figure out what patch(s) are causing the conflict by 
> > applying them one at a time and testing the results.
> > 
> > Once you figure out what patch(s) are causing the problem then you can 
> > direct the bug to the patch matainer and hope he is helpful in solving the 
> > issue.
> > 
> > these are just suggestions to try to get you up and running.
> > 
> > 
> > jaimos
> > 
> > 
> I don't know if you are using the patches that I host at jesgue.homelinux.org,
> but if that's the case then you'll probably need to debug a bit.
> 
> I just host them, and I modified some of them several times to allow them
> to continue living, but I just did the necessary modifications, and I don't
> understand most of them at all, since the code is not mine and I didn't
> really look too deep at the fvwm source code.
> 
> Some structures in fvwm changed/got added, and those patches were planed 
> against
> older fvwm versions. It is highly probable that something is seriously 
> screwed in
> some of them (specially the fluxbox borders one hehehe). I don't have the time
> nor the interest to look into them (otherwise I would probably try to clean
> them to integrate some of them into fvwm properly).
> 
> You should try to apply on one of them, and try, and so on, Until you find 
> which
> is the responsible for the segfault. Looking into the X logs and output on 
> console
> might (or might not) give you some hints on what is causing the problem.
> 

I took the patches from http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~u15dm4/fvwm/
and I tried different setups
1.) fvwm-2.5.23 + patches + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
2.) fvwm-2.5.23 + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza
3.) fvwm-2.5.23 + patches + xmms2-0.2DrJekyll + esperanza
4.) fvwm-2.5.23 + xmms2-0.2DrJekyll + esperanza

all don't work and led to crash the X!!

5.) fvwm-2.5.18 + xmms2-0.4DrKosmos + esperanza

this used to work fine before I updated to fvwm-2.5.23 in order to 
have neat features like translucency etc.

As I mention earlier, I checked the X logs, but there were no
indications what went wrong. The X crashes when I call esperanza via
Fvwmscript or from command line. 

I would appreciate very much any advice on how to debug my fvwm
session. Can I force fvwm to output/log any communication between
applications and X server?
TIA
ingo
  



FVWM: fvwm patches and esperanza

2008-02-25 Thread Ingo Wardinski
Hi all,
I see some oddities in the behaviour of fvwm after I installed
fvwm-2.5.23 and applied various patches to obtain translucency,
roundcorners, etc. In fact when I start esperanza (xmms2 client) my X
crashes. I checked several logs, but I couldn't find what is causing
the problem. So my primary guess is that it might be related to the
applied patches, because everything was fine before the patches
applied. Does someone else have similar problems?
I'm running  xmms2-0.4DrKosmos and esperanza-0.4.0 on
Linux 2.6.20-16-generic x86_64 GNU/Linux.
TIA
ingo