Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 06:26:54PM +0100, John Latham wrote: [snip] > I > was building a Red Hat ready fvwm2.5.2 RPM > which we are probably going to use here at Manchester CS. Don't do that! It's not even alpha quality. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
Hi all, I decided to upgrade to 2.5.3 for the PNG support. I'm assuming I can do stuff like this now: AddToMenu "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@" "MuLTiMeDia" Title + ... but I get an error: [FVWM][scanForPixmap]: <> Couldn't load image from gtcd.png The 'scanForPixmap' looks ominous. Can anyone help me out? Is there some docco on png support anywhere? yes, I did compile in PNG support. DeePBLue>> grep PNG config.h #define HAVE_PNG 1 DeePBLue>> uname -a Linux deepblue.milkyway.com.au 2.4.18-5custom #5 SMP Tue Aug 13 19:53:37 EST 2002 i686 unknown DeePBLue>> fvwm --version fvwm version 2.5.3 compiled on Aug 29 2002 at 19:55:58 fvwm comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You may redistribute copies of fvwm under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING. with support for: ReadLine, XPM, PNG, GNOME WM hints, EWMH hints, Shape, SM, Xinerama, XFT SCoTTie! :) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
On 29 Aug 2002 21:10:27 +1000, Scott Smedley wrote: > > I decided to upgrade to 2.5.3 for the PNG support. > > I'm assuming I can do stuff like this now: > > AddToMenu "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@" "MuLTiMeDia" Title > + ... > > but I get an error: > > [FVWM][scanForPixmap]: <> Couldn't load image from gtcd.png Are you sure you have the correct ImagePath? You may always specify the full file name, like /my/images/gtcd.png. Can you view this image using some image viewer? Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
Hi, Thanks for the quick reply. > Are you sure you have the correct ImagePath? yup, my .png images are stored with all my .xpm images. DeePBLue>> grep ImagePath .fvwm2rc ImagePath$HOME/images/icons > You may always specify the full file name, like /my/images/gtcd.png. hmmm, well using an absolute path worked! Does 'ImagePath' only apply to xpms? Is there a 'PNGPath' or similar? DeePBLue>> grep yellowStar menu +"&CoNTRoL%yellowStar.png%"Exec exec rxvt -e aumix & +"&Testing%/home/deepblue/scott/images/icons/yellowStar.xpm%"Nop In the above test I did, I got no image next to 'CoNTRoL', but I *did* get the image next to 'Testing' ... go figure ... SCoTTie :) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:44:23PM +1000, Scott Smedley wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the quick reply. > > > Are you sure you have the correct ImagePath? > > yup, my .png images are stored with all my .xpm images. > > DeePBLue>> grep ImagePath .fvwm2rc > ImagePath$HOME/images/icons > > > You may always specify the full file name, like /my/images/gtcd.png. > > hmmm, well using an absolute path worked! Does 'ImagePath' only > apply to xpms? > Is there a 'PNGPath' or similar? No, just one ImagePath for all the image files. > DeePBLue>> grep yellowStar menu > +"&CoNTRoL%yellowStar.png%"Exec exec rxvt -e aumix & > +"&Testing%/home/deepblue/scott/images/icons/yellowStar.xpm%"Nop > > In the above test I did, I got no image next to 'CoNTRoL', but > I *did* get the image next to 'Testing' ... go figure ... What error message do you see on the console? Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
> What error message do you see on the console? [FVWM][scanForPixmap]: <> Couldn't load image from yellowStar.png SCoTTie :) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
On 29 Aug 2002 21:44:23 +1000, Scott Smedley wrote: > > > Are you sure you have the correct ImagePath? > > yup, my .png images are stored with all my .xpm images. > > DeePBLue>> grep ImagePath .fvwm2rc > ImagePath$HOME/images/icons > > > You may always specify the full file name, like /my/images/gtcd.png. > > hmmm, well using an absolute path worked! Does 'ImagePath' only > apply to xpms? Is there a 'PNGPath' or similar? > > DeePBLue>> grep yellowStar menu > +"&CoNTRoL%yellowStar.png%"Exec exec rxvt -e aumix & > +"&Testing%/home/deepblue/scott/images/icons/yellowStar.xpm%"Nop > > In the above test I did, I got no image next to 'CoNTRoL', but > I *did* get the image next to 'Testing' ... go figure ... Just tested, everything works for me. Well, if you have these lines exactly, it means you have yellowStar.xpm, but not yellowStar.png. Or you don't have png support compiled in. Or ImagePath is incorrect. Or you run the wrong fvwm executable. :) Or there is some problem with your png library if it can't load the image. There is also a small change for a bug somewhere, but until you make it reproducible using a minimal config and 1-2 pngs, nothing can be done. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:10:02PM +1000, Scott Smedley wrote: > > What error message do you see on the console? > > [FVWM][scanForPixmap]: <> Couldn't load image from yellowStar.png Hm, not very helpful. The Picture library doesn't provide any information about the reason why it could not load the file. Unless we're missing something obvious we have to add debug statements to libs/Picture.c and the subordinate functions. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: PNG support in 2.5.3
> Just tested, everything works for me. Bugger! My mistake - I had yellowStar.png in another subdirectory. You'd think after 3 years of playing with fvwm I could've nutted it out! Still, thanks so much for your help. SCoTTie :) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: keys...
Hi, I have the following keys defined in my config file Key LeftA M GotoDesk -1 Key Right A M GotoDesk +1 and usually these work, but with OpenOffice, I'm finding that they don't. Does anyone have an idea why with this particular application they should fail? Thanks, Tom Ps. I'm using fvwm 2.4.7 -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: background rendering of SidePic
Hi all, I've had this problem for a while & thought upgrading to 2.5.3 would fix it. In short, the background of 'SidePic' is not rendered when I invoke WindowList from the Keyboard (but it works fine if it's invoked from the Mouse). Best illustrated with a simple .fvwm2rc: deepblue% cat .fvwm/.fvwm2rc ImagePath $HOME/images/icons MenuStyle * MenuFace DGradient 255 2 darkgray 50 MidnightBlue 50 white MenuStyle * SidePic happy.xpm Mouse 3 R A WindowList # Alt-Tab is set up in ConfigFvwmDefaults as: # Key Tab A M WindowList Root c c NoDeskSort Mouse 2 R A WindowList Root c c NoDeskSort Key F2 A M WindowList Note: you will need to put happy.xpm (or substitute) in ImagePath. press Mouse 2 or 3 & works fine. press Alt-F2 or Alt-Tab ... not so good. SCoTTie :) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:12:11AM -0400, Thomas Gardiner wrote: > > Hi, > > I have the following keys defined in my config file > > Key LeftA M GotoDesk -1 > Key Right A M GotoDesk +1 > > and usually these work, but with OpenOffice, I'm finding that they don't. > > Does anyone have an idea why with this particular application they should > fail? The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
> The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no > idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key > combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the > applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. I've had the occasional strange problem with my key bindings. Sometimes they just stop working (all of them, that is). It's a little annoying; I'll press my alt-f1 or f2 to raise/lower a window, or alt-left to go to my left desktop, and it just won't work! They just stop working entirely. I'm using Gnome 1.4 (but no nautilus managing the desktop) and fvwm 2.5.1. Is this related to the above problem? I have to quit X entirely and restart it to get my bindings back again. sam -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:46:52PM +1000, Sam Izzo wrote: > > The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no > > idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key > > combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the > > applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. > > I've had the occasional strange problem with my key bindings. Sometimes they > just stop working (all of them, that is). It's a little annoying; I'll press > my alt-f1 or f2 to raise/lower a window, or alt-left to go to my left desktop, > and it just won't work! They just stop working entirely. I'm using Gnome 1.4 > (but no nautilus managing the desktop) and fvwm 2.5.1. Is this related to the > above problem? I have to quit X entirely and restart it to get my bindings > back again. Or just press the num-lock key again ;-) See question 0.1 in the FAQ. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
I don't know Sam. Are you sure none of your num-lock or scroll-lock keys are pressed? For me, I can move my cursor over the root window or any other window and my key bindings for switching pages return (I use focuss follows mouse), so it's really a question of the application getting in the way. Dominik, one thing I have noticed is that it does not occur like this all of the time. Sometimes my key bindings work, while other times they don't. It seems to be related to where the program is in handling switching modes, or saving... basically whether it is accepting input. Unfortunately, it seems a bit tricky to make it occur on will. Silly question... Could it be the focus policy? Sometimes it seems as if no window has focus. Can this occur, and will fvwm cope properly? Thanks, Tom On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Sam Izzo wrote: > > The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no > > idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key > > combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the > > applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. > > I've had the occasional strange problem with my key bindings. Sometimes they > just stop working (all of them, that is). It's a little annoying; I'll press > my alt-f1 or f2 to raise/lower a window, or alt-left to go to my left desktop, > and it just won't work! They just stop working entirely. I'm using Gnome 1.4 > (but no nautilus managing the desktop) and fvwm 2.5.1. Is this related to the > above problem? I have to quit X entirely and restart it to get my bindings > back again. > > sam > > -- > Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: background rendering of SidePic
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:22:14PM +1000, Scott Smedley wrote: > Hi all, > > I've had this problem for a while & thought upgrading to 2.5.3 > would fix it. In short, the background of 'SidePic' is not rendered > when I invoke WindowList from the Keyboard (but it works fine if it's > invoked from the Mouse). > > Best illustrated with a simple .fvwm2rc: > > deepblue% cat .fvwm/.fvwm2rc > ImagePath $HOME/images/icons > MenuStyle * MenuFace DGradient 255 2 darkgray 50 MidnightBlue 50 white > MenuStyle * SidePic happy.xpm > Mouse 3 R A WindowList > # Alt-Tab is set up in ConfigFvwmDefaults as: > # Key Tab A M WindowList Root c c NoDeskSort > Mouse 2 R A WindowList Root c c NoDeskSort > Key F2 A M WindowList > > Note: you will need to put happy.xpm (or substitute) in ImagePath. > > press Mouse 2 or 3 & works fine. > press Alt-F2 or Alt-Tab ... not so good. Fixed. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:53:03AM -0400, Thomas Gardiner wrote: > For me, I can move my cursor over the root window or any other window and > my key bindings for switching pages return (I use focuss follows mouse), > so it's really a question of the application getting in the way. Hm, so the application seems to have grabbed the key on its window and fvwm has grabbed it everywhere else. I have to look this up in the X manuals. > Dominik, one thing I have noticed is that it does not occur like this all > of the time. Sometimes my key bindings work, while other times they > don't. It seems to be related to where the program is in handling > switching modes, or saving... basically whether it is accepting input. > Unfortunately, it seems a bit tricky to make it occur on will. It may be important if you start OpenOffice first or fvwm. After an fvwm restart things may look very differently. In X it's just first come - first serve: whoever requests the grab first gets it. > Silly question... Could it be the focus policy? No, that has nothing to do with it. Focus policy affects only mouse button handling. > Sometimes it seems as if > no window has focus. Can this occur, and will fvwm cope properly? > > > The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no > > > idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key > > > combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the > > > applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
Well, I can add a little more information. OpenOffice contains a tool called Impress (You know star office 6.0...). The problem with loosing key binding occurs after switching back from a full screen presentation or slide show view to normal editing view. The open office window will respond to mouse clicks, though some of its functionality is lost i.e. some of the menu items do nothing. Does this suggest any more ideas on what might be causing this problem? Thanks, Tom On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:53:03AM -0400, Thomas Gardiner wrote: > > For me, I can move my cursor over the root window or any other window and > > my key bindings for switching pages return (I use focuss follows mouse), > > so it's really a question of the application getting in the way. > > Hm, so the application seems to have grabbed the key on its window > and fvwm has grabbed it everywhere else. I have to look this up > in the X manuals. > > > Dominik, one thing I have noticed is that it does not occur like this all > > of the time. Sometimes my key bindings work, while other times they > > don't. It seems to be related to where the program is in handling > > switching modes, or saving... basically whether it is accepting input. > > Unfortunately, it seems a bit tricky to make it occur on will. > > It may be important if you start OpenOffice first or fvwm. After > an fvwm restart things may look very differently. In X it's just > first come - first serve: whoever requests the grab first gets > it. > > > Silly question... Could it be the focus policy? > > No, that has nothing to do with it. Focus policy affects only > mouse button handling. > > > Sometimes it seems as if > > no window has focus. Can this occur, and will fvwm cope properly? > > > > > The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no > > > > idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key > > > > combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the > > > > applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. > > Bye > > Dominik ^_^ ^_^ > > -- > Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 > Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe > -- > Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys... (fwd)
Sorry Dominik, I didn't intend for this to go directly to you... Tom -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:24:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dominik Vogt Subject: Re: FVWM: keys... Well, I can add a little more information. OpenOffice contains a tool called Impress (You know star office 6.0...). The problem with loosing key binding occurs after switching back from a full screen presentation or slide show view to normal editing view. The open office window will respond to mouse clicks, though some of its functionality is lost i.e. some of the menu items do nothing. Does this suggest any more ideas on what might be causing this problem? Thanks, Tom On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:53:03AM -0400, Thomas Gardiner wrote: > > For me, I can move my cursor over the root window or any other window and > > my key bindings for switching pages return (I use focuss follows mouse), > > so it's really a question of the application getting in the way. > > Hm, so the application seems to have grabbed the key on its window > and fvwm has grabbed it everywhere else. I have to look this up > in the X manuals. > > > Dominik, one thing I have noticed is that it does not occur like this all > > of the time. Sometimes my key bindings work, while other times they > > don't. It seems to be related to where the program is in handling > > switching modes, or saving... basically whether it is accepting input. > > Unfortunately, it seems a bit tricky to make it occur on will. > > It may be important if you start OpenOffice first or fvwm. After > an fvwm restart things may look very differently. In X it's just > first come - first serve: whoever requests the grab first gets > it. > > > Silly question... Could it be the focus policy? > > No, that has nothing to do with it. Focus policy affects only > mouse button handling. > > > Sometimes it seems as if > > no window has focus. Can this occur, and will fvwm cope properly? > > > > > The same hapens with Gnome. It's pretty annoying, and I have no > > > > idea how some applications manage to do this. Fvwm grabs the key > > > > combinations on the root window and any further grabs by the > > > > applications should fail. Yet, they still manage to do this. > > Bye > > Dominik ^_^ ^_^ > > -- > Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 > Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe > -- > Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: keys...
Sorry for inundating you folks, but this is a funny thing. One more observation: After going to slide-show view and returning, the main Open Office window has focus. However, there are "sub-windows" which only exist within the Open Office main window, but do not have focus. By simply moving my mouse to the border or title bar of the window focus is restored for all windows. Oh, sorry I forgot to mention... My key bindings for switching pages return as soon as my mouse touches the border or title bar of the main open office window. So, this problem does appear to be connected to focus somehow. Does this help? Tom On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Thomas Gardiner wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:24:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: Thomas Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Dominik Vogt > Subject: Re: FVWM: keys... > > Well, I can add a little more information. > > OpenOffice contains a tool called Impress (You know star office 6.0...). > The problem with loosing key binding occurs after switching back from > a full screen presentation or slide show view to normal editing view. > > The open office window will respond to mouse clicks, though some of its > functionality is lost i.e. some of the menu items do nothing. > > Does this suggest any more ideas on what might be causing this problem? > > Thanks, > > Tom -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:17:29 +0200 > From: Dominik Vogt > > I > was building a Red Hat ready fvwm2.5.2 RPM > > > which we are probably going to use here at Manchester CS. > > Don't do that! It's not even alpha quality. I can't decide whether your are advising using 2.5.3, or 2.4.9 instead! :-) 2.5.2 does *seem* very stable. I have used it everyday since early July, and it has not crashed. :-) All (certainly most) of the ~700 users will be using the same configuration package as I have been using, i.e. AnotherLevelUp (otherwise it would be a little dangerous, I agree). I have added a patch to fix the task bar start button context problem I reported yesterday (thanks for fixing in CVS, Mikhael). The most persuasive motive for using 2.5 rather than 2.4 is it's extra features that *might* help in the desperate war against the Java/FVWM mismatch -- which has reached critical status now that all our undergraduates write so much Java :-( Meanwhile, I have switched to using 2.5.3 personally -- so far so good. I have probably got about 3 weeks to try 2.5.3 and use that instead if there have been no serious problems. My current reasoning is this: 2.5.2 was alpha last month, and the problems found in it since did not screw up AnotherLevelUp. Now, 2.5.3 is alpha, but it has not been tested with AnotherLevelUp for a month! Maybe the problems in 2.5.3 will screw up AnotherLevelUp -- I'll let you know if they do, but while I find out, 2.5.2 is actually a safer bet Of course, I'll have RPMS for 2.4.[6-9] up my sleeve in case the worst should happen. > > Bye > > Dominik ^_^ ^_^ Best wishes, John Latham -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: appearing/disappearing pager at press/release of some key
hello, since i use alt+cursor_keys for virtual desktop navigation, i wondered if it is possible to have the FvwmPager appear/disappear on press/release of the alt key. yet my attempts didn't really work, -transient only makes the pager disappear when pressing Alt_L (or whatever key specified) again. is there some way to make this work? would be a nice feature, imo. thanks in advance, -- bye fiesh -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: Still slight cosmetic problem with HGradient menus
This is probably one for Dominic... You may recall a few weeks ago you fixed a bug in the menus when they have a HGradient -- certain menu items left `up' after scanning over them? It works much better now in 2.5.3, thanks very much, but I have noticed one little imperfection that I didn't notice before. Say you put the pointer on a menu item which causes a sub-menu to pop up. Then move the pointer up one place. The sub-menu is cleared away, however, it also wipes off the bottom edge of the 3D `up' relief of the item at the new pointer position (i.e. what was the top of the 3D relief of the previous position). This `absent bottom' feature is disabled if there is a NOP between the two items. Here is a bit of ascii art in case my description is not clear. -> marks pointer position I* are menu items -- [..] is 3d 1up' effect -- Before: I1 I2 -- -> [I3] -> Sub-menu -- I4 Then move the pointer up one place. After: I1 -- -> [I2] I3 I4 MenuStyle settings: MenuStyle * mwm MenuStyle * Font *helvetica*medium-r*12* MenuStyle * Greyed grey35 MenuStyle * Foreground #FF MenuStyle * MenuFace HGradient 128 2 #D2E1F5 30 #2D61F5 70 #D2E1F5 MenuStyle * PopupAsRootMenu Best wishes, John Latham -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: alt-tab request
After reading section 3.3 of the FAQ, I'm just curious if anyone has discovered a way to make fvwm do Alt-Tab switch to the last window (Windoze style), instead of the current window; it's a small thing, but it's much nicer to have that than the default alt-tab-tab switching. If not, I guess consider that a feature request... joe -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: Binding incr console to one key
Hi, I would like to know whether it is possible or not to bind one key of a customized keyboard to the feature of switching all the virtual screens of my system... I'm in a hurry and have got lost in the manual pages... Thanks you all in advance and best regards, Miguel Ángel -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: appearing/disappearing pager at press/release of some key
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, fiesh wrote: > since i use alt+cursor_keys for virtual desktop navigation, i > wondered if it is possible to have the FvwmPager appear/disappear > on press/release of the alt key. yet my attempts didn't really > work, -transient only makes the pager disappear when pressing > Alt_L (or whatever key specified) again. is there some way to > make this work? would be a nice feature, imo. This is a FAQ, question 7.12. Instead of using what this answer says, you might try the following: AddToFunc TogglePager "I" None (FvwmPager) Module FvwmPager * * + "I" Next (FvwmPager) Close Key F1 A C TogglePager As my pager is sticky and always on top, I don't need the other lines (in the answer to Q7.12). Regards, Uli -- Ulrich Fahrenberg -- http://www.math.auc.dk/~uli -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: .fvwm2rc syntax guide?
szonyi calin wrote: > There was a good manual viewer (X11 based) which > was acting like a browser (i.e. you had a TOC at the > beginning and when you pressed the word on that TOC > the program took you right to the place where it was > in the manual.) but it seems it's not on the net > anymore. > For the benefit of other recent arrivals to Fvwm2 - who are equally dismayed by the size (and number) of the relevant man pages: Typing on the command line "info fvwm2" loads the man page and all the routines (emacs bindings, I believe) for reading an info file. This can lighten the reading load (yet to be tried). There is also a vim plugin for loading the man page into vim and then use the features of vim (e.g. search, mark, fold, etc) to make the reading of the man page less daunting (tried it and it works). Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: Regarding FAQ 3.5
Hi, I just found a program that might help askers of FAQ 3.5: You can bind mouse movements to keystrokes, how about mouse presses? http://hoopajoo.net/projects/xautomation.html Control X from the command line for scripts, and do "visual scraping" to find things on the screen. The conrol interface allows mouse movement, clicking, button up/down, key up/down, etc, and uses the XTest extension so you don't have the annoying problems that xse has when apps ignore sent events. The visgrep program find images inside of images and reports the coordinates, allowing progams to find buttons, etc, on the screen to click on. Have fun, sa -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: alt-tab request
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:59:44AM -0700, Joe Morris wrote: > After reading section 3.3 of the FAQ, I'm just curious if anyone has > discovered a way to make fvwm do Alt-Tab switch to the last window > (Windoze style), instead of the current window; it's a small thing, but > it's much nicer to have that than the default alt-tab-tab switching. If > not, I guess consider that a feature request... > > joe with a recent fvwm version you can do this: Key Tab A M WindowList CurrentAtEnd to get the desired effect. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
> Or just press the num-lock key again ;-) See question 0.1 in the > FAQ. Oh my god, what an idiot am i!!! I feel so stupid :) Thanks! sam -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: keys...
%% Sam Izzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Or just press the num-lock key again ;-) See question 0.1 in the >> FAQ. si> Oh my god, what an idiot am i!!! I feel so stupid :) Don't feel stupid. You'll notice that's question 0.1 in the FAQ... there's a reason for that after all :). -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HASMAT--HA Software Mthds & Tools "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Binding incr console to one key
On 29 Aug 2002 20:01:32 +0100, Ripalda-Marin, Miguel-Angel wrote: > > I would like to know whether it is possible or not to bind one key of a > customized keyboard to the feature of switching all the virtual screens of > my system... I'm in a hurry and have got lost in the manual pages... Do you want to disable Ctrl-Alt-F1 and similar keys to switch to virtual consoles? If yes, this should be done in X, not FVWM. Or do you want to simulate Ctrl-Alt-F1 with a different key? It is possible by calling something like "sudo switchto 1". When you are in virtual consoles, you may press Alt-Left, Alt-Right. So, you may bind (after configuring sudo) Alt-Left to: Key Left A M Exec sudo switchto 6 Then Alt-Left will circulate between all VCs if this is what you want. Anyway, this is not really related to FVWM. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: appearing/disappearing pager at press/release of some key
On 29 Aug 2002 21:34:15 +0200, Ulrich Fahrenberg wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, fiesh wrote: > > > since i use alt+cursor_keys for virtual desktop navigation, i > > wondered if it is possible to have the FvwmPager appear/disappear > > on press/release of the alt key. yet my attempts didn't really > > work, -transient only makes the pager disappear when pressing > > Alt_L (or whatever key specified) again. is there some way to > > make this work? would be a nice feature, imo. > > This is a FAQ, question 7.12. Instead of using what this answer says, > you might try the following: > > AddToFunc TogglePager "I" None (FvwmPager) Module FvwmPager * * > + "I" Next (FvwmPager) Close > Key F1 A C TogglePager > > As my pager is sticky and always on top, I don't need the other lines > (in the answer to Q7.12). (and since your pager is not CirculateSkip, otherwise you also need CirculateHit.) This does not solve the original request: to close transient pager on the Alt release instead of the next Alt press. This is not currently possible. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
