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Re: Problems building snap-20020826

2002-09-05 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 05 Sep 2002 03:25:49 +0200, Mattias Andersson wrote:
 
 On 26 Aug 2002 11:28:23 -0500
 Jason L Tibbitts III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  BTW, the machine I'm building on runs Red Hat 7.1, and has XFree86
  4.0.3 installed.  I know it's old but I expect that others would run
  into the same issue.
 
 I had similar problems first.
 If you look in the first part you semms to be missing
 a few Gnome packages e.g. GDK.
 If you search for these in www.rpmfind.net you will find them.
 Test with rpm -q gnome-core or gdk.

You don't need gnome or gtk to build fvwm. The problem was different
and was fixed in cvs as you may see on

  ftp://ftp.fvwm.org/pub/fvwm/devel/snapshots/

and since there are no more automatical Problems building snap messages.

Regards,
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CVS olicha: * Fixed FvwmTaskBar i18n font loading

2002-09-05 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: olicha  02/09/05 06:26:50

Modified files:
.  : Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog NEWS 
modules: Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog 
modules/FvwmTaskBar: Tag: branch-2_4 FvwmTaskBar.c Goodies.c 

Log message:
* Fixed FvwmTaskBar i18n font loading

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Notification: incoming/920

2002-09-05 Thread fvwm-bug
FVWM Bug Tracking notification

new message incoming/920

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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:12:58 -0500
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Full_Name: Robert Withrow
Version: 2.4.9
CVS_Date: 
OS: FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE
X_Server: XFree86 4.2.0
Submission from: (NULL) (47.234.0.52)


The following directive:

  *FvwmPager: BalloonBack yellow

Seems to be ignored in this version of FVWM; the balloon backgrounds are
always black.  It worked as expected in 2.3.32.




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CVS domivogt: * Several stacking order fixes with transients.

2002-09-05 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/09/05 15:57:01

Modified files:
.  : ChangeLog 
fvwm   : stack.c stack.h 

Log message:
* Several stacking order fixes with transients.

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CVS domivogt: * Preliminary version of recursive transient raising/lowering.

2002-09-05 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/09/05 15:59:44

Modified files:
.  : Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog NEWS 
fvwm   : Tag: branch-2_4 bindings.c stack.c 
libs   : Tag: branch-2_4 fvwmlib.h 
modules: Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog 
modules/FvwmTaskBar: Tag: branch-2_4 FvwmTaskBar.c Goodies.c 

Log message:
* Preliminary version of recursive transient raising/lowering.
* Several stacking order fixes with transients.

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Re: Notification: incoming/920

2002-09-05 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 03:12:58PM -0500, fvwm-bug wrote:
 FVWM Bug Tracking notification
 
 new message incoming/920
 
 Full_Name: Robert Withrow
 Version: 2.4.9
 CVS_Date: 
 OS: FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE
 X_Server: XFree86 4.2.0
 Submission from: (NULL) (47.234.0.52)
 
 
 The following directive:
 
   *FvwmPager: BalloonBack yellow
 
 Seems to be ignored in this version of FVWM; the balloon backgrounds are
 always black.  It worked as expected in 2.3.32.

The problem is already know and fixed in the source repository.
The 2.4.10 version that is going be released until the end of next
week will fix that.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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CVS domivogt: * Copied stacing order patch from stable branch.

2002-09-05 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/09/05 17:42:27

Modified files:
.  : ChangeLog NEWS 
fvwm   : stack.c 

Log message:
* Copied stacing order patch from stable branch.

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CVS domivogt: * Cleaned up stacking order patch.

2002-09-05 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/09/05 17:42:55

Modified files:
.  : Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog NEWS 
fvwm   : Tag: branch-2_4 stack.c 

Log message:
* Cleaned up stacking order patch.

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Re: FVWM: Re: 2.5.x questions (Was: i can't run fvwm 2.4)

2002-09-05 Thread elliot sowadsky

   I tried the above. Make install works fine but if you
   make -k install-strip
   then the problem occurs.


Dont know if this is the same thing, but is the make -k install-strip to 
remove the dedebug symbol tables? I just change -g -O2 in configure to -O3.
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Re: FVWM: Re: 2.5.x questions (Was: i can't run fvwm 2.4)

2002-09-05 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 04 Sep 2002 22:07:19 -0700, elliot sowadsky wrote:
 
 
I tried the above. Make install works fine but if you
make -k install-strip
then the problem occurs.
 

Hmm, I can't reproduce this problem. /usr/bin/install -c -s ...
exits with error, but does install a script with +x permissions for me.

Anyway, eventually we'll switch to autoconf-2.53 when creating releases
and make install-strip will work well even without -k parameter.

 Dont know if this is the same thing, but is the make -k install-strip
 to remove the dedebug symbol tables? I just change -g -O2 in configure
 to -O3.

Yes, more or less the same effect may be done by:

  env CFLAGS=-O3 ./configure

or (before make install):

  make CFLAGS=-O3

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Re: FVWM: Non iso8995-1 fonts and the TaskBar

2002-09-05 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:29:28PM +0100, John Latham wrote:
 FvwmTaskBar crashes, quietly without any trace, in 2.4.6 as shipped by Red Hat
 7.3 (multi-byte is enabled) and also in 2.4.8 when compiled with multibyte
 option, but not otherwise.
 
 The task bar just refused to appear, and left no error message not even a core
 dump. Don't ask me how I figured out this was with the setting that caused the
 problem
 
 *FvwmTaskBarFont -*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 
 and changing it to the following makes it work okay:
 
 *FvwmTaskBarFont -*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 
 I assume it was picking up some font encoding that FvwmTaskBar cannot handle
 -- does that make sense?
 

There is a bug in the taskbar, if the SelFont is not found the taskbar
exit (the default font is not tried!). This will be fixed in the next
stable release. Any way if you use:

-*-*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 ^^

I think that the taskbar will work as you want (no locale change and this
is better than enforcing the charset).
I still do not understand why with
-*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
the font loading procedure fails (as xlsfont show me some fonts, but
xlsfont do not use the i18n procedure for querying font).
But I do not think that it is fvwm fault. Maybe a * count issue.

 This behaviour was still happening after I changed to POSIX locale (see
 previous message): it seems you need BOTH the posix locale and the iso8859-1
 to make it work in 2.4, if multi-byte is emabled.
 
 Similarly, FvwmPager was using the wrong font until I put the iso8859-1 spec
 on that too. At least it wasn't crashing!
 

Use -*-*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

 All this seems to work fine on 2.5.2, no need for locale change or iso8859-1
 specification.
 
 This all makes me think I could do with learning a *bit* more about X fonts
 and their relationships to locales. Can anyone suggest a good (implies
 short...) summary on the matter?
 

man XCreateFontSet and the xlfd and i18nFramework documents in the X doc
directory (something like /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc). Maybe you will not
find this docs good.

Regards, Olivier

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FVWM: Motif-like windowed menus

2002-09-05 Thread Rastislav Galia

Some motif windows (in Motif-based gVim or NEdit) can be put inside 
windows by clicking on dashed line on top of the menu. Is there any way to 
do so with menus in Fvwm2 ?


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Re: FVWM: Motif-like windowed menus

2002-09-05 Thread Dan Espen
Rastislav Galia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Some motif windows (in Motif-based gVim or NEdit) can be put inside 
 windows by clicking on dashed line on top of the menu. Is there any way to 
 do so with menus in Fvwm2 ?

Pin up menus are available in the Fvwm 2.5.x beta series.

A 2.5.x release might be OK for personal use but should not
be widely deployed.

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Re: FVWM: i can't run fvwm 2.4

2002-09-05 Thread John Latham
 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:27:37 -0600
 From: Gregg Dameron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: fvwm@fvwm.org

 John Latham wrote:

  I've just noticed that the one I thought might be the most helpful,
  ResizeHintOverride actually is already there in 2.4 -- for some reason I
  thought it was only in 2.5. (I am hoping this will help combat the quite
  common but appalling 1x1, modal, nonresizable dialog ``feature'')

 If a solution to the 1x1 presents itself, please post it.  We've been 
 fighting this
 one in 2.4.7 (and prior to that, under fvwm95 for many years).  It seems to 
 happen
 more frequently if the CPU is under load.

 Gregg Dameron

Success -- I just managed it!!!

I have in the last day or so started to build up a set of togglable java bug
work arounds to put on the menu in AnotherLevelUp. This allows the user to
switch them on/off at will in a persistent way (i.e. next start/restart has
them on/off as you last left them). This reduces the risk of unforseen side
effects, if they were enabled for everyone all the time, and allows users to
experiment and report back what works, how and when.

So far I have implemented 3, and 2 of them certainly seem to help, at least
with blackdown's jdk1.3. I have yet to see any effect from the first one
below. For now I am calling them:

1)  BugOpts ModalityIsEvil

2)  Style AWTdialog ResizeHintOverride

3)  FvwmEvent AWT add_window Deiconify

1) is one of the recommended Java 1.3 `fixes', but I have not yet seen it have
any effect (but have not really given it a good try).

2) I have just managed to successfully use this against a 1x1 modal dialog --
I was able to stretch it out and the real contents appeared!! We're
celebrating here! (BTW, it was the tip of the day dialog for Together 6.)

3) I have successfully used this to get around the non-reappearing dialog and
(app) windows: viz a dialog is created and mapped, user dismisses it, then
later it is reshown, but is remapped iconified. Particularly devastating if
you do not have transient windows appearing in task vars or as icons, etc..
This fix deiconifies all AWTdialog and AWTapp windows when they are mapped,
and it seems to work so far.

I can post the toggle mechanism that AnotherLevelUp uses, if you wish, but
attached are the guts of the work arounds so far, as hopefully self evident
functions.

Best wishes, John Latham


DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOn
AddToFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOn
+ I BugOpts ModalityIsEvil

DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOff
AddToFunc ToggleJAVAModalityIsEvilOff
+ I FvwmForm RestartAfterChanges

DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOn
AddToFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOn
+ I Style AWTdialog ResizeHintOverride
+ I Recapture

DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOff
AddToFunc ToggleJAVAAWTdialogResizeHintOverrideOff
+ I Style AWTdialog NoResizeOverride
+ I Recapture

DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOn
AddToFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOn
+ I *JAVAFvwmEvent: Cmd Function
+ I *JAVAFvwmEvent: PassID
+ I *JAVAFvwmEvent: add_window DeIconfiyGivenWindowIfAWT
+ I Module FvwmEvent JAVAFvwmEvent

DestroyFunc DeIconfiyGivenWindowIfAWT
AddToFunc DeIconfiyGivenWindowIfAWT
+ I WindowId $0 (AWTapp) Iconify off
+ I WindowId $0 (AWTdialog) Iconify off

DestroyFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOff
AddToFunc ToggleJAVAFvwmEventAWTAddWindowDeIconifyOff
+ I KillModule FvwmEvent JAVAFvwmEvent
+ I DestroyModuleConfig JAVAFvwmEvent*


*RestartAfterChangesWarpPointer
*RestartAfterChangesFontfixed
*RestartAfterChangesButtonFont  *helvetica*medium-r*12*
*RestartAfterChangesInputFont   fixed
*RestartAfterChangesFore#FF
*RestartAfterChangesBack#E64080
*RestartAfterChangesItemFore#FF
*RestartAfterChangesItemBack#19007F
*RestartAfterChangesLine left
*RestartAfterChangesText The changes you have made will not apply until you
*RestartAfterChangesLine left
*RestartAfterChangesText next restart Fvwm2.
*RestartAfterChangesLine expand
*RestartAfterChangesLine left
*RestartAfterChangesText If you want to make more changes first,
*RestartAfterChangesLine left
*RestartAfterChangesText you may ignore this form until you are ready,
*RestartAfterChangesLine left
*RestartAfterChangesText or make it go away for now.
*RestartAfterChangesLine expand
*RestartAfterChangesLine expand
*RestartAfterChangesLine expand
*RestartAfterChangesButton quit I want to Restart now ^M
*RestartAfterChangesCommand Function ReallyRestartWithoutRandomPreferences
*RestartAfterChangesButton quit Go away - I will Restart later  ^C
*RestartAfterChangesCommand Nop
Style RestartAfterChanges StaysOnTop,Sticky

AddToFunc ReallyRestartWithoutRandomPreferences
# AnotherLevelUp has lots of stuff here, but the main thing is:
+ I Restart
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Re: FVWM: Non iso8995-1 fonts and the TaskBar

2002-09-05 Thread John Latham
 From: Olivier Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: fvwm@fvwm.org

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:29:28PM +0100, John Latham wrote:
  FvwmTaskBar crashes, quietly without any trace, in 2.4.6 as shipped by Red 
  Hat
  7.3 (multi-byte is enabled) and also in 2.4.8 when compiled with multibyte
  option, but not otherwise.
 

 There is a bug in the taskbar, if the SelFont is not found the taskbar
 exit (the default font is not tried!). This will be fixed in the next
 stable release. Any way if you use:

   -*-*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
^^

 I think that the taskbar will work as you want (no locale change and this
 is better than enforcing the charset).

Indeed, you are right -- it works, thanks. I must admit that I have not
fiddled with the fonts in AnotherLevelUp since it was Red Hat's AnotherLevel,
but I have previously noticed the `missing *' and believed it not to be a
problem. Which it isn't, apart from in FVWM 2.4!

 I still do not understand why with
   -*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 the font loading procedure fails (as xlsfont show me some fonts, but
 xlsfont do not use the i18n procedure for querying font).
 But I do not think that it is fvwm fault. Maybe a * count issue.

I think you are saying it should not cause a problem, as stars are supposed to
match hyphens too. Which is what I believed to be true. The `missing -*' does
not cause a problem in FVWM 2.2.4 nor 2.5.{2,3}, just in 2.4.{6,8}. So,
perhaps FVWM 2.4 is querying fonts in a slightly different way?

  

 Use -*-*helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

I will thanks, -- I prefer your fix to mine. This might have other
consequences as Red Hat's AnotherLevel had (and so ALU currently still has):

define(`BASIC_FONT',`*helvetica')

and then later on things like:

*FvwmTaskBarFont -BASIC_FONT-medium-r-*-*-FONT_SIZE-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

and (now updated to use Style *)

Style * Font BASIC_FONT-bold-r-*-120-*

etc., so I need to be a bit careful.


  All this seems to work fine on 2.5.2, no need for locale change or iso8859-1
  specification.
  
  This all makes me think I could do with learning a *bit* more about X fonts
  and their relationships to locales. Can anyone suggest a good (implies
  short...) summary on the matter?
  

 man XCreateFontSet and the xlfd and i18nFramework documents in the X doc
 directory (something like /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc). Maybe you will not
 find this docs good.

I shall try these, thanks.


 Regards, Olivier

Best wishes, John Latham
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Re: FVWM: Motif-like windowed menus

2002-09-05 Thread John Latham
 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 11:26:05 -0400
 From: Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Rastislav Galia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Some motif windows (in Motif-based gVim or NEdit) can be put inside 
  windows by clicking on dashed line on top of the menu. Is there any way to 
  do so with menus in Fvwm2 ?

 Pin up menus are available in the Fvwm 2.5.x beta series.

 A 2.5.x release might be OK for personal use but should not
 be widely deployed.

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Hi. This morning I spotted another place where 2.5.x is being referred to as
alpha -- in the NEWS files.

Best wishes, John Latham

$ grep alpha release fvwm-snap-20020904/NEWS 
Changes in alpha release 2.5.4 (not released yet)
Changes in alpha release 2.5.3 (25-Aug-2002)
Changes in alpha release 2.5.2 (24-Jun-2002)
Changes in alpha release 2.5.1 (26-Apr-2002)
Changes in alpha release 2.5.0 (27-Jan-2002)
Changes in alpha release 2.3.5 (July 1999)
Changes in alpha release 2.3.4 (June 1999)
Changes in alpha release 2.3.3 (June 1999)
Changes in alpha release 2.3.2 (May 1999)
Changes in alpha release 2.3.1 (April 1999)
Changes in alpha release 2.3.0 (February 1999)
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FVWM: transparent parts of xpm icons

2002-09-05 Thread Rastislav Galia

Does fvwm2 allow to create a simple framing window around each individual 
icon in a similar way as MWM does ? Hitting the .xpm icons with 
transparent portions is sometimes a tricky task.

/Rastjo

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Re: FVWM: transparent parts of xpm icons

2002-09-05 Thread Dan Espen
Rastislav Galia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Does fvwm2 allow to create a simple framing window around each individual 
 icon in a similar way as MWM does ? Hitting the .xpm icons with 
 transparent portions is sometimes a tricky task.

I answered your question yesterday in comp.windows.x.apps.

Here is the same answer again:

Nope.

I've heard that .png icons with newer releases of XFree86
allow for you to click on the transparent parts.

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Re: FVWM: Still slight cosmetic problem with HGradient menus

2002-09-05 Thread John Latham
 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:58:18 +0200
 From: Dominik Vogt fvwm@fvwm.org

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:55:51PM +0100, John Latham wrote:
  This is probably one for Dominic...
  
  You may recall a few weeks ago you fixed a bug in the menus when they have a
  HGradient -- certain menu items left `up' after scanning over them? It works
  much better now in 2.5.3, thanks very much, but I have noticed one little
  imperfection that I didn't notice before. Say you put the pointer on a menu
  item which causes a sub-menu to pop up. Then move the pointer up one place.
  The sub-menu is cleared away, however, it also wipes off the bottom edge of
  the 3D `up' relief of the item at the new pointer position (i.e. what was 
  the
  top of the 3D relief of the previous position). This `absent bottom' feature
  is disabled if there is a NOP between the two items.

 Could you try with my latest patch?  I couldn't reproduce this
 myself (probably because of SaveUnders or something).

 Bye

 Dominik ^_^  ^_^

I tried yesterday's snapshot this morning.

Good news: I think the cosmetic menu problem has gone, thanks.

Possible bad news -- maybe you are aware of these, but just in case:

1)  Menus do not stay up like they used to. With

Mouse 1 R   A   Menu StartMenu Nop

a single click on the root window used to make the menu stay up. Now,
it appears and disappears as soon as you let go of the mouse.

 And

AddToMenu XXX
+ blah blah PopUp SubMenuYYY

used to make SubMenuYYY stay up if you clicked on the item in XXX.
(This was with PopupAsRootMenu style.)

2)  I was able to get a maximize button to become `stuck', in the sense
that every thing I clicked would be toggle maximised -- not even just
the window that the button belonged to! Clicking on the root window
would make it look like everything was normal, but as soon as the
mouse was even moved the original ``sticky button'' would display it's
ActiveDown mini-icon again. Even killing the program which the sticky
button window belonged to (via another console) did not resolve the
problem: the skeleton of it remained on the screen. Only killing X
could stop it. I was able to invoke this feature twice, but did not
spend a long time working out exactly what magic sequence was needed.
I think it involves the window being resized by itself, and/or moved
by itself prior to clicking the button.

Would you like me to try to find a more definitive sequence of events,
or is somebody already onto this bug?

Best wishes, John Latham
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Re: FVWM: Still slight cosmetic problem with HGradient menus

2002-09-05 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 05 Sep 2002 18:55:26 +0100, John Latham wrote:
 
 Possible bad news -- maybe you are aware of these, but just in case:
 
 1)Menus do not stay up like they used to. With
 
   Mouse 1 R   A   Menu StartMenu Nop
 
   a single click on the root window used to make the menu stay up. Now,
   it appears and disappears as soon as you let go of the mouse.
 
  And
 
   AddToMenu XXX
   + blah blah PopUp SubMenuYYY
 
   used to make SubMenuYYY stay up if you clicked on the item in XXX.
   (This was with PopupAsRootMenu style.)

If you use the cvs or daily snapshots regularly you should subscribe to
the fvwm-workers list to be up to date with what happens.

You would see that this problem was reported and answered, but not fixed.

You would also see the Dominik's request not to use the today's cvs
because it will crash.

 2)I was able to get a maximize button to become `stuck', in the sense
   that every thing I clicked would be toggle maximised -- not even just
   the window that the button belonged to! Clicking on the root window
   would make it look like everything was normal, but as soon as the
   mouse was even moved the original ``sticky button'' would display it's
   ActiveDown mini-icon again. Even killing the program which the sticky
   button window belonged to (via another console) did not resolve the
   problem: the skeleton of it remained on the screen. Only killing X
   could stop it. I was able to invoke this feature twice, but did not
   spend a long time working out exactly what magic sequence was needed.
   I think it involves the window being resized by itself, and/or moved
   by itself prior to clicking the button.
 
   Would you like me to try to find a more definitive sequence of events,
   or is somebody already onto this bug?

This problem is not known. I don't quite understand what every thing I
clicked would be toggle maximised means. Please post all ButtonStyle and
other related lines.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: FVWM: Still slight cosmetic problem with HGradient menus

2002-09-05 Thread John Latham
 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:07:22 +0100
 From: John Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ...
 I suspect that one of the steps needed to
 invoke the feature is to ask this application to move itself: I have bound the
 right mouse button to act as a `grab and move' function for this application
 (because it has lots of little windows).
 ...

I did not make it clear, sorry: the binding I speak of is a PerlTk binding,
not an FVWM binding. So as far as FVWM is concerned, I presume, the PerlTk
application is asking to be moved, quite a lot of move requests in fact, as I
drag the mouse. (I hope this is Red Herring.)

Best wishes, John Latham
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Re: FVWM: Still slight cosmetic problem with HGradient menus

2002-09-05 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:31:34PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
  2)  I was able to get a maximize button to become `stuck', in the sense
  that every thing I clicked would be toggle maximised -- not even just
  the window that the button belonged to! Clicking on the root window
  would make it look like everything was normal, but as soon as the
  mouse was even moved the original ``sticky button'' would display it's
  ActiveDown mini-icon again. Even killing the program which the sticky
  button window belonged to (via another console) did not resolve the
  problem: the skeleton of it remained on the screen. Only killing X
  could stop it. I was able to invoke this feature twice, but did not
  spend a long time working out exactly what magic sequence was needed.
  I think it involves the window being resized by itself, and/or moved
  by itself prior to clicking the button.
  
  Would you like me to try to find a more definitive sequence of events,
  or is somebody already onto this bug?
 
 This problem is not known. I don't quite understand what every thing I
 clicked would be toggle maximised means. Please post all ButtonStyle and
 other related lines.

It's known to me and also caused by the event handling rewrite.
If you are curious, press the maximize/shade/whatever button on a
window, move the pointer out of the button and release it.
Regardless of where you click now the action on the window button
is triggered.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: Still slight cosmetic problem with HGradient menus

2002-09-05 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 05 Sep 2002 23:20:14 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 
 On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:31:34PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
   2) I was able to get a maximize button to become `stuck', in the sense
 that every thing I clicked would be toggle maximised -- not even just
 the window that the button belonged to! Clicking on the root window
 would make it look like everything was normal, but as soon as the
 mouse was even moved the original ``sticky button'' would display it's
 ActiveDown mini-icon again. Even killing the program which the sticky
 button window belonged to (via another console) did not resolve the
 problem: the skeleton of it remained on the screen. Only killing X
 could stop it. I was able to invoke this feature twice, but did not
 spend a long time working out exactly what magic sequence was needed.
 I think it involves the window being resized by itself, and/or moved
 by itself prior to clicking the button.
   
 Would you like me to try to find a more definitive sequence of events,
 or is somebody already onto this bug?
  
  This problem is not known. I don't quite understand what every thing I
  clicked would be toggle maximised means. Please post all ButtonStyle and
  other related lines.
 
 It's known to me and also caused by the event handling rewrite.
 If you are curious, press the maximize/shade/whatever button on a
 window, move the pointer out of the button and release it.
 Regardless of where you click now the action on the window button
 is triggered.

Ok, I wondered whether this may be caused by my InactiveUp/InactiveDown
enhancement.

If a complex functions is bound (like in my case), nothing bad happens,
but, yes, if some command is bound a very bad thing happens. A possible
workaround for this may be to bind ComplexMaximize instead of Maximize:

  AddToFunc ComplexMaximize
  + C Maximize
  #+ H Nop  # this cancels Maximize after some timeout

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: FVWM: latest snapshot problems

2002-09-05 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 05 Sep 2002 20:07:22 +0100, John Latham wrote:
 
  You would also see the Dominik's request not to use the today's cvs
  because it will crash.

Actually today it only failes to compile, crashes are promised later. ;)

 Imagine a new feature (which might even be useful!) called
 ``PointerIsAMagicWand'' which when set would be given a function and would
 then apply that function to every window you clicked on. (I don't know how you
 could turn it off!) Anyway, the behaviour I was getting was as though I had
 asked for
 
   PointerIsAMagicWand Maximise 100 97
 
 The button I originally pressed was bound to Maximise 100 97.

This feature is easy to implement in 2.5.1+:

  # repeat command until escape is pressed or root window selected
  DestroyFunc RepeatUntilCanceled
  AddToFunc   RepeatUntilCanceled
  + I Pick $*
  + I Cond (Error) Break
  + I RepeatUntilCanceled $*

  RepeatUntilCanceled Maximize 100 0
  RepeatUntilCanceled UnshadeAndIconify

But Pick is broken for some time now, so _currently_ RepeatUntilCanceled
does nothing.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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FVWM: Changing titlebar buttons based on window state?

2002-09-05 Thread Len Philpot
I have the following defined in my .fvwm2rc :

Mouse   0   1   A   Menu Window-Ops2 Close
Mouse   0   2   A   Close
Mouse   0   4   A   Maximize
Mouse   0   6   A   Iconify

# lightning bolt - system menu
ButtonStyle 1 8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
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# x - Close
ButtonStyle 2 17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
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# downward triangle - minimize
ButtonStyle 6 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
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# large square - maximize
ButtonStyle 4 5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# small square - restore
#ButtonStyle 4 5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(swiped straight from the website and sample files, obviously)

What I want to do is use the small square for button 4 if the window is
fullscreen and the large square if it's neither fullscreen nor
iconified. I feel certain this is in the man pages somewhere, but I've
yet to come across it. I have no idea how to approach this.


I'd still like to work on (which may or may not be doable) :

* How to make windows resizable by dragging on the borders, in
  addition to the corner handles (and disabling moving via borders)

* How to make a window truly maximize, rather than stop a few pixels
  short of fullscreen; a nice touch would be to make it _really_
  maximize, with no border showing and no movement possible while
  maximized

* How to either get FvwmTaskBar to swallow FvwmPager, or remove the
  border from FvwmPager (there is also some difficulty in getting focus
  to return to a window after using the pager)

* How to remove the biff applet and clock from FvwmTaskBar

* How to remove the title and geometry info from the WindowList menu but
  still have it pop up centered on the screen

* How to prevent the menu selection from automatically following the
  mouse pointer and vice-versa

* How to get vector buttons to appear in a different color than the
  titlebar

* How to make the handles thicker than the border


...but I'll work on these personal preferences as time allows. :)

Thanks for any advice on my first (real) question. Any input on the
subsequent wish list is appreciated (particularly if something is known
not possible).

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