Re: Fw: Re: 1-2 minutes to load FvwmButtons on latest CVS
On 8/8/07, Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:15:31 +0100 > "seventh guardian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (snip) > > > > Can you please check if this solves your problem? > > (snip) > > I just recompiled and it is still the same. But as you say, it is time > to go to bed. It is +1 hour around here. Does it happen with the previous minimal config? If not, can you provide one that triggers it? I'm still interested in solving this.. Thanks, Renato
Re: Fw: Re: 1-2 minutes to load FvwmButtons on latest CVS
On 8/8/07, seventh guardian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/07, Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:15:31 +0100 > > "seventh guardian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > > > Can you please check if this solves your problem? > > > > (snip) > > > > I just recompiled and it is still the same. But as you say, it is time > > to go to bed. It is +1 hour around here. > > Does it happen with the previous minimal config? If not, can you > provide one that triggers it? I'm still interested in solving this.. Hum, I now get a strange problem. With the same minimal config, every time I click on a window title a new FvwmButtons gets spawned. Indeed strange! Renato
Re: Fw: Re: 1-2 minutes to load FvwmButtons on latest CVS
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:51:32 +0100 "seventh guardian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/07, Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:15:31 +0100 > > "seventh guardian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > > > Can you please check if this solves your problem? > > > > (snip) > > > > I just recompiled and it is still the same. But as you say, it is time > > to go to bed. It is +1 hour around here. > > Does it happen with the previous minimal config? If not, can you > provide one that triggers it? I'm still interested in solving this.. Yes, it happens with that same config. I am sure I am using the correct fvwm snapshot, cause I re-compiled it and saw CVS fetching the events.c file. On the other hand, I haven't been able to reproduce that other bug you discovered. I can click the title bars without any strange side effect. -- Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: CVS domivogt: * Write fvwm in lower case everywhere
"Dominik Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The standard convention is to spell acronyms in capitals. > > I never thought of fvwm as an acronym. If we say it's not an acronym then it's not. In English, normally proper names are capitalized, like Fvwm, put product names are free to do whatever they like, for example, "iMac". How it's capitalized makes little difference to me, but consistency is good. -- Dan Espen E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [patch] Read DIR --> Read DIR/config
Am 2007-08-02 12:20:08, schrieb Simon Griph:
> > Also, if a directory is given, then why not read all the
> > regular files (optionally recursively down all the directories)?
> >
>
> Why read all files? Fvwm doesn't read all files in $FVWM_USERDIR
> on startup. Just the one named "config".
Sometimes it is desired to read a bunch of configs at once.
Currently I use:
PipeRead `for CFG in $[FVWM_USERDIR]/modules/* ; do echo "Read ${CFG}" ; done`
which is something like the /etc/${DAEMON}.d/ directories.
But I like to see, if
Read some_name
is reading the file "some_name", while
Read some_name/
is reading the WHOLE directory "some_name".
Please note the attached/sufixed "/".
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Re: CVS domivogt: * Write fvwm in lower case everywhere
On 08/08/07, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Dominik Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The standard convention is to spell acronyms in capitals. > > > > I never thought of fvwm as an acronym. > > If we say it's not an acronym then it's not. Sure. Whilst we're there we could also that that whilst we don't need full stops, we won't use them either. That might seem facetious, but it's not meant to be. :P > In English, normally proper names are capitalized, > like Fvwm, put product names are free to do whatever they > like, for example, "iMac". Yes, but on this occasion, FVWM *stands* for something -- its name *is* the product name which means correct capitalisation of the acronym. -- Thomas Adam
Re: CVS domivogt: * Write fvwm in lower case everywhere
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 09:45:12PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On 08/08/07, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Dominik Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > The standard convention is to spell acronyms in capitals. > > > > > > I never thought of fvwm as an acronym. > > > > If we say it's not an acronym then it's not. > > Sure. Whilst we're there we could also that that whilst we don't need > full stops, we won't use them either. That might seem facetious, but > it's not meant to be. :P > > > In English, normally proper names are capitalized, > > like Fvwm, put product names are free to do whatever they > > like, for example, "iMac". > > Yes, but on this occasion, FVWM *stands* for something -- its name > *is* the product name which means correct capitalisation of the > acronym. Yes, and laser also stands for something and has become so familiar that almost nobody writes it LASER (or knows what the letters stand for). So what? I really wonder why this comes up only now. The name has been "fvwm" for at least five years, and nobody complained. Note that I mostly eliminated the occurences of "FVWM" and "Fvwm" that have been re-introduced destipte the convention. From fvwm/fvwm.1.in: The name fvwm is written in lower case throughout this man page. Fvwm is written without a version number, i.e. fvwm, not fvwm2. This paragraph was last changed on 16th of August, 2002. Nobody ever complained about this. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, dominik.vogt (at) gmx.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CVS domivogt: * Write fvwm in lower case everywhere
On 08/08/07, Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really wonder why this comes up only now. The name has been Because you yourself suddenly decided to make sweeping changes across the board. In my own writings of FVWM (of which there has been many) I have always used 'FVWM' because it's an acronym. I won't debate English with you, but I will say that I don't agree (along with Scott) that FVWM has now been demoted to lower-case throughout the documentation, It's wrong. -- Thomas Adam
Re: CVS domivogt: * Write fvwm in lower case everywhere
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:31:08 +0200 Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 09:45:12PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > On 08/08/07, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Dominik Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > The standard convention is to spell acronyms in capitals. > > > > > > > > I never thought of fvwm as an acronym. > > > > > > If we say it's not an acronym then it's not. > > > > Sure. Whilst we're there we could also that that whilst we don't need > > full stops, we won't use them either. That might seem facetious, but > > it's not meant to be. :P > > > > > In English, normally proper names are capitalized, > > > like Fvwm, put product names are free to do whatever they > > > like, for example, "iMac". > > > > Yes, but on this occasion, FVWM *stands* for something -- its name > > *is* the product name which means correct capitalisation of the > > acronym. > > Yes, and laser also stands for something and has become so > familiar that almost nobody writes it LASER (or knows what the > letters stand for). So what? > I am not going into the discussion, it is not a thing I am willing to fight for, I just wanted to make a small comment. The fact that 'laser' is written in lower case is not because it is a lower case acronym, but because of the evolution of the language. New words are created each day. By the day the first LASER device was created, there were no word to name that thingy, and that is why it was named with an acronym: 'LASER'. But language evolved, and a new word was created: 'laser'. So, that argument above is pretty much pointless. Nowadays, 'laser' (lower case) is a word, and no longer an acronym, you can look at the dictionary. Of course, the acronym 'LASER' does exists still. But 'laser', is a word, with a meaning, regardless of its etymology or origin. It is a noun, not an acronym. Any dictionary will tell you the same. That is not the case for 'fvwm', so, the two cases are not comparable. Just my .02 Regards everyone :) -- Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
