Re: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
Wow, I didn't know existed in 1875! ;) -- Hector On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Nicolas Grevet wrote: > There's a lot of formats in the CLDR that are completely ridiculous. Thanks > to the General Conference on Weights and Measures in 1875, French numbers' > thousands separator is a non-breaking space... no need to mention there is > no way to type a non-breaking space on French and most international > keyboards. We had to change Zend Framework's format for this too. > > Regards, > -- Nicolas Grevet > > > Саша Стаменковић wrote: > >> Thanks man. >> >> I'll go with extending my own format HH:mm since "%H.%M.%S" is really >> silly format for time, especially when date have same format. >> >> Regards, >> Saša Stamenković >> >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Aleksey Zapparov >> > i...@member.fsf.org>> wrote: >> >>Hello, >> >>Sorry to diturb your discussion. But I never know about CLDR at >>all and was >>very interested what is it and how to use it :)) So after small >>investigation here's >>what I found: >> >>CLDR official website is: http://cldr.unicode.org/ >> >>You can freely obtain lates specifications from: >>http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-1-8-1 >> >>Or directly from: >>http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.8.1/ >> >>After all, you need two packages: "core.zip" and "posix.zip". >>Inside "core.zip" >>you'll find which spec you exactly need, in your place it's >>"sr_Cyrl_RS". So you >>can read sr_Cyrl_RS.UTF-8.src from posix package. And in fact it >>clearly says >>that time format is: "%H.%M.%S" >> >> >>2010/5/14 Саша Стаменковић ><mailto:umpir...@gmail.com>>: >> >>> Thanks for the answer. >>> I live in Serbia, and I have never seen this format before. Can >>you provide >>> a link to time format spec in CLDR please? >>> Regards, >>> Saša Stamenković >>> >>> >>> 2010/5/14 Thomas Weidner ><mailto:thomas.weid...@gmx.at>> >> >>>> >>>> The serbian time format is defined as "HH.mm.ss" within CLDR. >>>> So eighter the wiki is wrong or unicode is wrong. >>>> >>>> Greetings >>>> Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework >>>> http://www.thomasweidner.com >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: " ???" >>mailto:umpir...@gmail.com>> >> >>>> To: "Nabble Zend Framework General" ><mailto:fw-general@lists.zend.com>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:38 AM >>>> Subject: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like >>>> >>>> $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod >>>> Zend_Date >>>> >>>> This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale. >>>> * >>>> * >>>> But for time I expect sth like 10:00 ( >>>> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia >> ), >>>> but >>>> I get 09.43.56 when using >>>> >>>> *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);* >>>> >>>> Any idea? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Saša Stamenković >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Sincerely yours, >>Aleksey V. Zapparov A.K.A. ixti >>FSF Member #7118 >>Mobile Phone: +34 617 179 344 >>Homepage: http://www.ixti.ru >>JID: zappa...@jabber.ru <mailto:zappa...@jabber.ru> >> >>*Origin: Happy Hacking! >> >> >>
Re: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
There's a lot of formats in the CLDR that are completely ridiculous.
Thanks to the General Conference on Weights and Measures in 1875, French
numbers' thousands separator is a non-breaking space... no need to
mention there is no way to type a non-breaking space on French and most
international keyboards. We had to change Zend Framework's format for
this too.
Regards,
-- Nicolas Grevet
Саша Стаменковић wrote:
Thanks man.
I'll go with extending my own format HH:mm since "%H.%M.%S" is really
silly format for time, especially when date have same format.
Regards,
Saša Stamenković
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Aleksey Zapparov
mailto:i...@member.fsf.org>> wrote:
Hello,
Sorry to diturb your discussion. But I never know about CLDR at
all and was
very interested what is it and how to use it :)) So after small
investigation here's
what I found:
CLDR official website is: http://cldr.unicode.org/
You can freely obtain lates specifications from:
http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-1-8-1
Or directly from:
http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.8.1/
After all, you need two packages: "core.zip" and "posix.zip".
Inside "core.zip"
you'll find which spec you exactly need, in your place it's
"sr_Cyrl_RS". So you
can read sr_Cyrl_RS.UTF-8.src from posix package. And in fact it
clearly says
that time format is: "%H.%M.%S"
2010/5/14 Саша Стаменковић mailto:umpir...@gmail.com>>:
> Thanks for the answer.
> I live in Serbia, and I have never seen this format before. Can
you provide
> a link to time format spec in CLDR please?
> Regards,
> Saša Stamenković
>
>
> 2010/5/14 Thomas Weidner mailto:thomas.weid...@gmx.at>>
>>
>> The serbian time format is defined as "HH.mm.ss" within CLDR.
>> So eighter the wiki is wrong or unicode is wrong.
>>
>> Greetings
>> Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework
>> http://www.thomasweidner.com
>>
>> - Original Message ----- From: " ???"
mailto:umpir...@gmail.com>>
>> To: "Nabble Zend Framework General" mailto:fw-general@lists.zend.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:38 AM
>> Subject: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like
>>
>> $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod
>> Zend_Date
>>
>> This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale.
>> *
>> *
>> But for time I expect sth like 10:00 (
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia),
>> but
>> I get 09.43.56 when using
>>
>> *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);*
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saša Stamenković
>>
>
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Aleksey V. Zapparov A.K.A. ixti
FSF Member #7118
Mobile Phone: +34 617 179 344
Homepage: http://www.ixti.ru
JID: zappa...@jabber.ru <mailto:zappa...@jabber.ru>
*Origin: Happy Hacking!
Re: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
Thanks man. I'll go with extending my own format HH:mm since "%H.%M.%S" is really silly format for time, especially when date have same format. Regards, Saša Stamenković On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Aleksey Zapparov wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry to diturb your discussion. But I never know about CLDR at all and was > very interested what is it and how to use it :)) So after small > investigation here's > what I found: > > CLDR official website is: http://cldr.unicode.org/ > > You can freely obtain lates specifications from: > http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-1-8-1 > > Or directly from: > http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.8.1/ > > After all, you need two packages: "core.zip" and "posix.zip". Inside > "core.zip" > you'll find which spec you exactly need, in your place it's "sr_Cyrl_RS". > So you > can read sr_Cyrl_RS.UTF-8.src from posix package. And in fact it clearly > says > that time format is: "%H.%M.%S" > > > 2010/5/14 Саша Стаменковић : > > Thanks for the answer. > > I live in Serbia, and I have never seen this format before. Can you > provide > > a link to time format spec in CLDR please? > > Regards, > > Saša Stamenković > > > > > > 2010/5/14 Thomas Weidner > >> > >> The serbian time format is defined as "HH.mm.ss" within CLDR. > >> So eighter the wiki is wrong or unicode is wrong. > >> > >> Greetings > >> Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework > >> http://www.thomasweidner.com > >> > >> - Original Message - From: " ???" < > umpir...@gmail.com> > >> To: "Nabble Zend Framework General" > >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:38 AM > >> Subject: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date > >> > >> > >> Hi. > >> > >> I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like > >> > >> $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod > >> Zend_Date > >> > >> This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale. > >> * > >> * > >> But for time I expect sth like 10:00 ( > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia), > >> but > >> I get 09.43.56 when using > >> > >> *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);* > >> > >> Any idea? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Saša Stamenković > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sincerely yours, > Aleksey V. Zapparov A.K.A. ixti > FSF Member #7118 > Mobile Phone: +34 617 179 344 > Homepage: http://www.ixti.ru > JID: zappa...@jabber.ru > > *Origin: Happy Hacking! >
Re: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
Hello, Sorry to diturb your discussion. But I never know about CLDR at all and was very interested what is it and how to use it :)) So after small investigation here's what I found: CLDR official website is: http://cldr.unicode.org/ You can freely obtain lates specifications from: http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-1-8-1 Or directly from: http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.8.1/ After all, you need two packages: "core.zip" and "posix.zip". Inside "core.zip" you'll find which spec you exactly need, in your place it's "sr_Cyrl_RS". So you can read sr_Cyrl_RS.UTF-8.src from posix package. And in fact it clearly says that time format is: "%H.%M.%S" 2010/5/14 Саша Стаменковић : > Thanks for the answer. > I live in Serbia, and I have never seen this format before. Can you provide > a link to time format spec in CLDR please? > Regards, > Saša Stamenković > > > 2010/5/14 Thomas Weidner >> >> The serbian time format is defined as "HH.mm.ss" within CLDR. >> So eighter the wiki is wrong or unicode is wrong. >> >> Greetings >> Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework >> http://www.thomasweidner.com >> >> - Original Message ----- From: " ???" >> To: "Nabble Zend Framework General" >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:38 AM >> Subject: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date >> >> >> Hi. >> >> I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like >> >> $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod >> Zend_Date >> >> This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale. >> * >> * >> But for time I expect sth like 10:00 ( >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia), >> but >> I get 09.43.56 when using >> >> *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);* >> >> Any idea? >> >> Regards, >> Saša Stamenković >> > > -- Sincerely yours, Aleksey V. Zapparov A.K.A. ixti FSF Member #7118 Mobile Phone: +34 617 179 344 Homepage: http://www.ixti.ru JID: zappa...@jabber.ru *Origin: Happy Hacking!
Re: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
Thanks for the answer. I live in Serbia, and I have never seen this format before. Can you provide a link to time format spec in CLDR please? Regards, Saša Stamenković 2010/5/14 Thomas Weidner > The serbian time format is defined as "HH.mm.ss" within CLDR. > So eighter the wiki is wrong or unicode is wrong. > > Greetings > Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework > http://www.thomasweidner.com > > - Original Message - From: " ???" > To: "Nabble Zend Framework General" > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:38 AM > Subject: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date > > > > Hi. > > I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like > > $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod > Zend_Date > > This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale. > * > * > But for time I expect sth like 10:00 ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia), > but > I get 09.43.56 when using > > *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);* > > Any idea? > > Regards, > Saša Stamenković > >
Re: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
The serbian time format is defined as "HH.mm.ss" within CLDR. So eighter the wiki is wrong or unicode is wrong. Greetings Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework http://www.thomasweidner.com - Original Message - From: " ???" To: "Nabble Zend Framework General" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: [fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date Hi. I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod Zend_Date This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale. * * But for time I expect sth like 10:00 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia), but I get 09.43.56 when using *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);* Any idea? Regards, Saša Stamenković
[fw-general] Formatting localized date time wih Zend_Date
Hi. I use Zend_Date in my view helper for formatting my dates like $this->date->toString(Zend_Date::DATES); // $this->date instranceod Zend_Date This works perfect, I get 14.05.2010. for sr_RS locale. * * But for time I expect sth like 10:00 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country#Serbia), but I get 09.43.56 when using *$this->date->toString(Zend_Date::TIMES);* Any idea? Regards, Saša Stamenković
