[fw-general] Re: No announce for 1.7.3PL1
'Twas brillig, and Wil Sinclair at 27/01/09 20:20 did gyre and gimble:
It was released due to a missing 'require' in the ZendX_JQuery
component.
Incidentally while looking at the ZendX_JQuery stuff today I noticed a
prefix of ZendX_Dojo which is odd:
$ grep -rn Dojo *
JQuery/Form.php:45:
->addElementPrefixPath('ZendX_Dojo_Form_Decorator',
'ZendX/JQuery/Form/Decorator', 'decorator')
I suspect it's a copy/paste error?
I'm sorry that I didn't send out an announcement, but I really didn't
think that this was significant enough to warrant one. Given the
community's reaction, I'm thinking that it wasn't significant enough to
issue the patch in the first place.
I'll review 'to patch or not to patch' decision in more detail going
forward and announce it on the contributors, general, and announce lists
if we patch a release in the future.
I didn't meant to open a can of worms here :(
I would certainly not want to discourage you issuing the patch release
or similar, it's just that any release without an announcement just
feels wrong to me: you may spend some time debugging an issue in what
you think is the most recent version only to find when you report the
bug that it was fixed in the PL release and it's just that you didn't
realise this was available because you did not look at the download page
first. Even just a very quick announce with a totally cut down message
saying e.g. "patch release 1 has fixed a minor issue, see the 1.7.3
announcement for the full details of the 1.7.3 release" would have been
appreciated. I don't know if this process of sending such a mail to the
announce list is awkward or not (due to moderation processes etc) or
whether such a short announcement would be permitted.
Anyway, like I say I don't mean to criticise and I do appreciate all
your work :)
Col
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Re: [fw-general] Re: No announce for 1.7.3PL1
> (and yes, I know this particular case was not a security issue!). > > Col > > > -- > > Colin Guthrie > gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie > http://colin.guthr.ie/ > Maybe that's why it was not announced? -- Currently developing a browsergame... http://www.p-game.de Trade - Expand - Fight
[fw-general] Re: No announce for 1.7.3PL1
'Twas brillig, and Yannick Mortier at 27/01/09 19:43 did gyre and gimble: A patch level can also mean that there were just some smaller issues fixed or it had to be released quickly because of security issues. So there is no need for an announce of changes because there are usually none. So if a release is rolled out quickly due to security issues, there is no need to announce it? The logical extension of that is that those people running the potentially vulnerable software don't know there is a problem and therefore do not update it. That really doesn't make sense! (and yes, I know this particular case was not a security issue!). Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
Re: [fw-general] Re: No announce for 1.7.3PL1
Should those of us who upgraded to 1.7.3 now upgrade to 1.7.3PL1? If we should then I think an announcement would be very important. Otherwise, how would we know there is an update? Mark On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Wil Sinclair at 27/01/09 17:01 did gyre and gimble: >> >> We decided not to do a release announcement for patches. We've >> released them in the past for other packages like GData and didn't >> announce them then. Plus, there are no new features, bug fixes, etc., >> so it's not much of an announcement. :) If it would help avoid >> confusion, I can send a quick note to fw-general if we ever have to >> patch again. > > > Thanks for the explanation (especially Matthews explanation of > version_compare() usage - although as this is used inside Version.php, > should the actual VERSION constant not be set to 1.7.3PL1 in there rather > than left as 1.7.3 which is how the 1.7.3 release went out?) > > A quick "headsup" email would be good, although I think an official > announcement on the zf-announce should also be sent. Many users will be > using this as their only means of keeping up to date on things and surely > even a patch to a release (which, let's face it is just another way of > saying "there were some bugs that we've now patched") is worth letting > people know about? > > Col > > -- > > Colin Guthrie > gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie > http://colin.guthr.ie/ > > Day Job: > Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] > Open Source: > Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] > PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] > Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] > > -- Have fun or die trying - but try not to actually die.
[fw-general] Re: No announce for 1.7.3PL1
'Twas brillig, and Wil Sinclair at 27/01/09 17:01 did gyre and gimble: We decided not to do a release announcement for patches. We've released them in the past for other packages like GData and didn't announce them then. Plus, there are no new features, bug fixes, etc., so it's not much of an announcement. :) If it would help avoid confusion, I can send a quick note to fw-general if we ever have to patch again. Thanks for the explanation (especially Matthews explanation of version_compare() usage - although as this is used inside Version.php, should the actual VERSION constant not be set to 1.7.3PL1 in there rather than left as 1.7.3 which is how the 1.7.3 release went out?) A quick "headsup" email would be good, although I think an official announcement on the zf-announce should also be sent. Many users will be using this as their only means of keeping up to date on things and surely even a patch to a release (which, let's face it is just another way of saying "there were some bugs that we've now patched") is worth letting people know about? Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
