RE: [fw-general] Re: Zend Studio Integration [was: Re: [fw-general] What is planned for 1.6?]

2008-07-10 Thread Wil Sinclair
Thorsten, most of the Zend Framework integration in Studio are
value-adds over PDT, so I wouldn't be surprised if you don't find many
ZF-specific features in that project. This is a great opportunity to
tell everyone what our philosophy is regarding the relationship between
Zend Framework and Zend's commercial products. We believe what is best
for our community is also best for Zend. With that in mind, we have no
intention to release major functionality that is of use to the general
community in ZF that requires a commercial license.

Our strategy is to provide value-adds in the commercial products
themselves that make them irresistible to all you ZF developers and
deployers. J We may ship major performance enhancements that cannot be
made in the framework itself. We certainly will provide tools to easily
use ZF with our commercial products. We will provide improved interfaces
to ZF features. I could even see certain value adds that could be added
to our web properties in the future. Please note, these features will be
implemented in our products and/or web properties themselves, and are
not really ZF features as such.

A perfect example is the Zend_Tool feature. We provide all the
functionality in ZF itself. But you can count on an advanced interface
available in Zend Studio down the line (provided the community approves
of the component and it is promoted to standard library). The current
Zend Studio integration, which is very cool BTW- I use it constantly-
reflects this strategy.

 

Not the answer you were looking for, but maybe you'll find it
interesting anyways. J

 

,Wil

 

From: Thomas Fritz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:08 AM
To: Thorsten Suckow-Homberg
Cc: fw-general@lists.zend.com
Subject: [fw-general] Re: Zend Studio Integration [was: Re: [fw-general]
What is planned for 1.6?]

 

Hi Thorsten!

I have made a few screenshots. Thats not all, but you should get a
little overview of the benefits. If you want more screenshots let me
know. I will upload them to my gallery.

Heres the Link: http://fritzthomas.com/geillery/Zend+Studio.html

Regards

Tom

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Thorsten Suckow-Homberg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Any information about the benefits I'd have when using Zend Studio with
ZF? I'm using Eclipse PDT and I rarely experience any advantages...

I know the deadline was already, but i think it would be very
interesting for people to know that the integration with the Zend Studio
is already very good and will be much better when the Zend_Tool_* things
ready. Because i think that is a big reason for people to use a
framework - "How good is the integration in IDEs - Hos fast can we
develop with it??"

 



Re: [fw-general] Re: Zend Studio Integration [was: Re: [fw-general] What is planned for 1.6?]

2008-07-10 Thread Thorsten Suckow-Homberg
Hi Thomas,

thanks for the effort!

Guess I'll try out the new Studio version then, though I have to admit that my 
development cycles are quicker when using UltraEdit. Everything else feels 
clumsy, IMHO.

Regards

Thorsten

- Original Message - 
  From: Thomas Fritz 
  To: Thorsten Suckow-Homberg 
  Cc: fw-general@lists.zend.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:07 PM
  Subject: [fw-general] Re: Zend Studio Integration [was: Re: [fw-general] What 
is planned for 1.6?]


  Hi Thorsten!

  I have made a few screenshots. Thats not all, but you should get a little 
overview of the benefits. If you want more screenshots let me know. I will 
upload them to my gallery.

  Heres the Link: http://fritzthomas.com/geillery/Zend+Studio.html

  Regards

  Tom


  On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Thorsten Suckow-Homberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Any information about the benefits I'd have when using Zend Studio with ZF? 
I'm using Eclipse PDT and I rarely experience any advantages...
  I know the deadline was already, but i think it would be very interesting 
for people to know that the integration with the Zend Studio is already very 
good and will be much better when the Zend_Tool_* things ready. Because i think 
that is a big reason for people to use a framework - "How good is the 
integration in IDEs - Hos fast can we develop with it??"