RE: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Bill Karwin
> -Original Message-
> From: Shaun Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Yes, I'd be very interested in writing an article. Are you 
> referring to my existing solution? Or to my (impending) 
> refactoring? Or both? :)

I was thinking of the refactoring, showing how to manage
Zend_Filter_Input rules using Zend_Config.

Bill


Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Shaun Rowe

Bill Karwin wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Shaun Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Now all I have to do is refactor my code a bit to use this 
component and I'm laughing. As mine is already configured via 
an xml document, I reckon the config for Zend_Filter_Input 
can be described a similar way and held in a Zend_Config 
object. Would anyone be interested in how I get on?


That's great!  Yes, the idea was to make the rules declared as data, so
one could easily store it in one of the Zend_Config back-ends.

Would you consider writing an article for DevZone with your solution?
They're always looking for good ZF content.

Regards,
Bill Karwin


Yes, I'd be very interested in writing an article. Are you referring to 
my existing solution? Or to my (impending) refactoring? Or both? :)



Cheers

Shaun


RE: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Bill Karwin
> -Original Message-
> From: Shaun Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Now all I have to do is refactor my code a bit to use this 
> component and I'm laughing. As mine is already configured via 
> an xml document, I reckon the config for Zend_Filter_Input 
> can be described a similar way and held in a Zend_Config 
> object. Would anyone be interested in how I get on?

That's great!  Yes, the idea was to make the rules declared as data, so
one could easily store it in one of the Zend_Config back-ends.

Would you consider writing an article for DevZone with your solution?
They're always looking for good ZF content.

Regards,
Bill Karwin


Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Shaun Rowe

Bill Karwin wrote:

Zend_Filter_Input is in core now.
 
The purpose of requiring getUnescaped() to be called explicitly is to 
force the application developer to acknowledge the fact that the value 
is in a form that is potentially not safe to output.
 
And yes, you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and redefine its __get() 
method if you want to.
 
Alternatively, you can set the Zend_Filter_Input escape filter to 
something else:
 
  $input = new Zend_Filter_Input( ... );

  $input->setDefaultEscapeFilter('StringTrim'); // for example
 
Regards,

Bill Karwin


I have to say a big thanks to everyone who has worked on the re-design 
of Zend_Filter_Input. Having developed something quite similar myself 
using the ZF I'm pleased to see it now in the core.


Now all I have to do is refactor my code a bit to use this component and 
I'm laughing. As mine is already configured via an xml document, I 
reckon the config for Zend_Filter_Input can be described a similar way 
and held in a Zend_Config object. Would anyone be interested in how I 
get on?



Cheers

Shaun


RE: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Bill Karwin
Zend_Filter_Input is in core now.
 
The purpose of requiring getUnescaped() to be called explicitly is to force the 
application developer to acknowledge the fact that the value is in a form that 
is potentially not safe to output.
 
And yes, you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and redefine its __get() method if 
you want to.
 
Alternatively, you can set the Zend_Filter_Input escape filter to something 
else:
 
  $input = new Zend_Filter_Input( ... );
  $input->setDefaultEscapeFilter('StringTrim'); // for example
 
Regards,
Bill Karwin




From: Pádraic Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:30 AM
To: Jur Jean
Cc: Zend Framework General
    Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()


Hi Jur,

I have the same preference as yourself. I'm not using the component yet 
until it either reaches Core or is updated to reflect other potential 
solutions. But for now you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and override its 
__get() method to change the default treatment of values to avoid the automated 
escaping.

A few other options are also available - check the proposal comments 
over at:

http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Filter_Input+redesign+-+Bill+Karwin

Pádraic

 
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com



- Original Message 
From: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:17:49 AM
Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()



Why is Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped() called by default when magic 
accessing
vars? I use getUnescaped() a lot more often.

In the view, you should use $this->escape(), the form helpers escapes
values, and when writing to my database i also don't want to escape 
using
this method, but use the db's escape method.
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Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Pádraic Brady
I'm at least as dumb as everyone else, Bryce. :)

Whenever you get around to coding I'll have an svn external pointing at the 
laboratory to grab the code ;). Look forward to reviewing and testing.
 
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- Original Message 
From: Bryce Lohr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Zend FW General List 

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:08:47 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

I literally busted out laughing when I read that... I'll take that as a 
compliment. :)  I'll get back working on that in a few days (I have a beta 
release of my own to get through first). As always, I'm wide open to 
suggestions 
for the "dumbing down" part... ;)

Regards,
Bryce Lohr


Pádraic Brady wrote:
> Probably worth noting Bryce Lohr's proposal is now in the Laboratory but 
> will not make it into the framework until after 1.0.0. It's a really 
> powerful approach but it's needs some dumbing down for the rest of us ;).
> 
> http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Validate_Builder+-+Bryce+Lohr
>  
> Pádraic Brady
> http://blog.astrumfutura.com
> http://www.patternsforphp.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Zend Framework General 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:29:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()
> 
> Hi Jur,
> 
> I have the same preference as yourself. I'm not using the component yet 
> until it either reaches Core or is updated to reflect other potential 
> solutions. But for now you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and override 
> its __get() method to change the default treatment of values to avoid 
> the automated escaping.
> 
> A few other options are also available - check the proposal comments 
> over at:
> http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Filter_Input+redesign+-+Bill+Karwin
> 
> Pádraic
>  
> Pádraic Brady
> http://blog.astrumfutura.com
> http://www.patternsforphp.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: fw-general@lists.zend.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:17:49 AM
> Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()
> 
> 
> Why is Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped() called by default when magic 
> accessing
> vars? I use getUnescaped() a lot more often.
> 
> In the view, you should use $this->escape(), the form helpers escapes
> values, and when writing to my database i also don't want to escape using
> this method, but use the db's escape method.
> -- 
> View this message in context: 
> http://www.nabble.com/Zend_Filter_Input%3A%3AgetEscaped%28%29-tf3838924s16154.html#a10869449
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Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Bryce Lohr
I literally busted out laughing when I read that... I'll take that as a 
compliment. :)  I'll get back working on that in a few days (I have a beta 
release of my own to get through first). As always, I'm wide open to suggestions 
for the "dumbing down" part... ;)


Regards,
Bryce Lohr


Pádraic Brady wrote:
Probably worth noting Bryce Lohr's proposal is now in the Laboratory but 
will not make it into the framework until after 1.0.0. It's a really 
powerful approach but it's needs some dumbing down for the rest of us ;).


http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Validate_Builder+-+Bryce+Lohr
 
Pádraic Brady

http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


- Original Message 
From: Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Zend Framework General 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:29:37 AM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

Hi Jur,

I have the same preference as yourself. I'm not using the component yet 
until it either reaches Core or is updated to reflect other potential 
solutions. But for now you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and override 
its __get() method to change the default treatment of values to avoid 
the automated escaping.


A few other options are also available - check the proposal comments 
over at:

http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Filter_Input+redesign+-+Bill+Karwin

Pádraic
 
Pádraic Brady

http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


- Original Message 
From: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:17:49 AM
Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()


Why is Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped() called by default when magic 
accessing

vars? I use getUnescaped() a lot more often.

In the view, you should use $this->escape(), the form helpers escapes
values, and when writing to my database i also don't want to escape using
this method, but use the db's escape method.
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Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Pádraic Brady
Probably worth noting Bryce Lohr's proposal is now in the Laboratory but will 
not make it into the framework until after 1.0.0. It's a really powerful 
approach but it's needs some dumbing down for the rest of us ;).

http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Validate_Builder+-+Bryce+Lohr
 
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


- Original Message 
From: Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Zend Framework General 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:29:37 AM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

Hi Jur,

I have the same preference as yourself. I'm not using the component yet until 
it either reaches Core or is updated to reflect other potential solutions. But 
for now you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and override its __get() method to 
change the default treatment of values to avoid the automated escaping.

A few other options are also available - check the proposal comments over at:
http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Filter_Input+redesign+-+Bill+Karwin

Pádraic
 
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


- Original Message 
From: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:17:49 AM
Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()


Why is Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped() called by default when magic accessing
vars? I use getUnescaped() a lot more often.

In the view, you should use $this->escape(), the form helpers escapes
values, and when writing to my database i also don't want to escape
 using
this method, but use the db's escape method.
-- 
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Re: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()

2007-05-30 Thread Pádraic Brady
Hi Jur,

I have the same preference as yourself. I'm not using the component yet until 
it either reaches Core or is updated to reflect other potential solutions. But 
for now you can subclass Zend_Filter_Input and override its __get() method to 
change the default treatment of values to avoid the automated escaping.

A few other options are also available - check the proposal comments over at:
http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Filter_Input+redesign+-+Bill+Karwin

Pádraic
 
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


- Original Message 
From: Jur Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:17:49 AM
Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped()


Why is Zend_Filter_Input::getEscaped() called by default when magic accessing
vars? I use getUnescaped() a lot more often.

In the view, you should use $this->escape(), the form helpers escapes
values, and when writing to my database i also don't want to escape using
this method, but use the db's escape method.
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Zend_Filter_Input%3A%3AgetEscaped%28%29-tf3838924s16154.html#a10869449
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