USB hub - full function ?

2003-08-03 Thread Laurence TeknoLiber
All this USB hub discussion made me think of a problem
that I've been experiencing...
When I have amy keyboard connected through my
powered 4-port USB hub (iMac kbd short cable), it doesn't
work the way it does if it's plugged directly into the Mac,
e.g. the power key etc.
Is there an explaination ?

Laurence

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Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Peter Nacken
Hello people, 

One problem chases the other,  my 153 GB maxtor FW drive said hasta con bye
bye !

I am running 10.2.6 on a 1 GHZ Tibook, that HD is connected through FW.

It does not mount ...

Diskwarrior sees the drive and the right size, but declines doing anything
because... trying to access drive (::3, ::4).

Disc Utilities First Aid sees the drive as well, but the only option is
offers is verify disk  when I do that, I get

Verify Disk .
Volume %@ needs to be repaired.
Verify complete

But still the option for repair is grayed out, as are disk permissions ..

Pretty clueless on what to do now, but not willing to give up on 153 GB  of
data .. 

Any help what else I can use to fix this ?

Thanks 


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Re: USB hub

2003-08-03 Thread Kurt Appling
RE; Im useing a belkin,powered 6 port usb hub,with a TI PB 800 for 
about a year now,I have had no problems or conflicts with useing 
it.price was about 45 dollars US.

O
I need a USB hub with at least 4 ports to use with my G4/667 
PowerBook/OS
9.2.2.


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Re: Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Hugo Trottier
Maxtor is a reputable Hard Disk manufacturer. Go to the website and 
fill the forms and get a RMA (return merchandise authorization) and 
they will fix it for free, or exchange it for you.
Hope that help,

Hugo Trottier
The Digital Dispatch
Canada
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 05:31 AM, Peter Nacken wrote:
Hello people,

One problem chases the other,  my 153 GB maxtor FW drive said hasta 
con bye
bye !

I am running 10.2.6 on a 1 GHZ Tibook, that HD is connected through FW.

It does not mount ...

Diskwarrior sees the drive and the right size, but declines doing 
anything
because... trying to access drive (::3, ::4).

Disc Utilities First Aid sees the drive as well, but the only option is
offers is verify disk  when I do that, I get
Verify Disk .
Volume %@ needs to be repaired.
Verify complete
But still the option for repair is grayed out, as are disk permissions 
..

Pretty clueless on what to do now, but not willing to give up on 153 
GB  of
data ..

Any help what else I can use to fix this ?

Thanks

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Re: USB hub - full function ?

2003-08-03 Thread Paul Nicholson
At 8:42 AM +0200 8/3/03, Laurence TeknoLiber wrote:
When I have amy keyboard connected through my
powered 4-port USB hub (iMac kbd short cable), it doesn't
work the way it does if it's plugged directly into the Mac,
e.g. the power key etc.

Is there an explaination ?

Yes. When the computer is off, small amount of current from the power supply's standby 
power output is bled into one of the USB lines through a resistor. When the power on 
key is pressed, this current source is shorted out. A voltage comparator on the mother 
board senses the corresponding voltage change and signals the power supply to turn on. 
It is a very elegant hack that allows an otherwise un-powered USB bus to do something 
it was never designed to do - send a signal when it is off.

The hub inserts a USB transceiver between incoming and outgoing USB signals, and this 
transceiver blocks the signal current.

Paul


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Re: Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Lewin Edwards
Maxtor is a reputable Hard Disk manufacturer. Go to the website and 
fill the forms and get a RMA (return merchandise authorization) and 
they will fix it for free, or exchange it for you.
But they won't do the data recovery (at least, not for free).

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Re: Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Peter Nacken
on 8/4/03 5:00 AM, Lewin Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maxtor is a reputable Hard Disk manufacturer. Go to the website and
 fill the forms and get a RMA (return merchandise authorization) and
 they will fix it for free, or exchange it for you.
 
 But they won't do the data recovery (at least, not for free).
 
And I doubt that RMA works from Fiji (where I am stranded :)


But thanks for the tips

P 

(I hear drive 10 may be of help ?)


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Re: usb hub

2003-08-03 Thread Greg Gilmore
 I need a USB hub with at least 4 ports

On 08.02.03 13:31, Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This subject is covered in the current issue of the Voice newsletter of the
 MacValley User Group, which ran an article about the various problems that
 can be caused by USB devices and inadequate hubs. All the group experts
 agreed that the best USB hub by far is the Per-Tech 7-Port Hubmaster, ...a
 solidly built, if extremely ugly*, piece of equipment, and is to USB hubs
 what Tripp-Lite is to power strips... I will speculate that the Per-Tech
 succeeds where others fail due to the fact that it's got a very large
 internal power supply to stabilize voltage on all devices...

Thanks for the tip, Bruce. Looked it up on their web site, and it does
indeed look like a great product. They say, however:

Compatible with USB2.0  Our hub works with peripherals and hubs that are
USB2.0 compliant.  USB2.0 Peripherals must be designed to throttle down to
USB 1.1 speeds.

Will this be an issue with my G4/667 PowerBook/OS 9.2.2?


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PB network problem

2003-08-03 Thread Tom Burke
I posted about this problem a few days ago but there's been no 
feedback; maybe my post was too long. I'll rephrase it briefer.

I have a 12 PB with a wifi card. The PB has a static IP address. 
Occasionally I find that when using the ethernet connection the PB is 
no longer able to transmit or receive across the network - no browsing, 
no email, no ping, even to devices within my own local suib-net. This 
happens intermittently, and when it does happen it's only after a while 
- an hour of use? - and some days never.

The network configuration looks OK, but running this command:

'ipconfig getifaddr en0' in a terminal window gets this response:

'get if addr en0 failed, (os/kern) failure'

Has anyone else ever seen this? Does anyone have any idea what might be 
causing it?

Tom Burke

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Re: Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Hugo Trottier
You are correct. But after you have done the data recovery this should 
be the next logical step. No?

Hugo Trottier
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 01:00 PM, Lewin Edwards wrote:
Maxtor is a reputable Hard Disk manufacturer. Go to the website and 
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But they won't do the data recovery (at least, not for free).

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Re: Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Hugo Trottier
It will work from anywhere in the world.

Hugo Trottier
On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 02:06 PM, Peter Nacken wrote:
on 8/4/03 5:00 AM, Lewin Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maxtor is a reputable Hard Disk manufacturer. Go to the website and
fill the forms and get a RMA (return merchandise authorization) and
they will fix it for free, or exchange it for you.
But they won't do the data recovery (at least, not for free).

And I doubt that RMA works from Fiji (where I am stranded :)

But thanks for the tips

P

(I hear drive 10 may be of help ?)

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Re: Help: Maxter ext HD stopped responding

2003-08-03 Thread Peter Nacken
on 8/4/03 2:59 PM, Hugo Trottier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It will work from anywhere in the world.

Not for external HDs

PLEASE NOTE: The online RMA return option is currently not available for
External Hard Drives (Personal Storage). You must contact technical support
directly by either telephone or email for troubleshooting and RMA processing
(see contact listings for your region below). 


From http://maxtor.com/en/support/service/warranty_external.htm


Next place is NZ .. Costs like 1$ a minute to call there ...

But thanks ;) 


 
 Hugo Trottier
 On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 02:06 PM, Peter Nacken wrote:
 
 on 8/4/03 5:00 AM, Lewin Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Maxtor is a reputable Hard Disk manufacturer. Go to the website and
 fill the forms and get a RMA (return merchandise authorization) and
 they will fix it for free, or exchange it for you.
 
 But they won't do the data recovery (at least, not for free).
 
 And I doubt that RMA works from Fiji (where I am stranded :)
 
 
 But thanks for the tips
 
 P
 
 (I hear drive 10 may be of help ?)
 
 
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Re: how much to spend to fix powerbook

2003-08-03 Thread Shawn Harley
Lynn,

Check out powerbooktech.com. They have a flat rate labor charge and I 
think they will even install a drive that you purchase elsewhere. A HD 
replacement is a very easy upgrade/ replacement though. You may be able 
to do this yourself.

Shawn

On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 10:07 PM, Lynn wrote:

Hi,
Thanks for the info.  I am a bit confused.  Not only do I have
the whistling sound when the adapter is pushed into the jack
, but my additional 300 plus ram is not showing up in the system
profiler. It shows up under about acomputer, but that is it.
I have been getting memory problems for awhile and wasn't
aware that the computer wasn't acknowledging all of the ram.
It stops whistling if I hold the plug and push it into the jack
tighter.  I am using a brick. I have a backup yo yo but am
not too thrilled with it. THe last two have sparked on just
one use.
I can't record to a cd firewire backup. I get errors or else
it hangs during finishing session.  I can get backup to my swappable
zip drive though.
Disk first aid fixed a volume error the other night.
I am not sure where to go with all of this.
At first I htought it was the drive, now it looks like it could
be adapter or both and why the trouble with the firewire?
A mac guy will charge 50 to come to my house (am disabled
and can't drive), 85 per hour for labor, and 200 for a new
Toshiba drive. I have heard the ibm travelstars are better
and cheaper.
Not sure how much I should spend on this if the money
could go toward a newer model.  Am now very confused
about whether the computer has one problem or multiple
problems.
Thanks so much for any advice.
Lynn
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