Re: Pismo troubleshooting
Adam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The good news is that I already tested with a battery and eliminated this as a possibility... unless the AC board has magical powers to prevent a boot from a battery, which doesn't seem entirely likely. What I am trying to do here is figure out if it is the Logic Board, Processor card, or battery board that could cause a completely cold, dead, lifeless Pismo. It is as if it is a door-stop. Exactly what results did the battery test give when you can say that the Pismo is as if it is a door-stop? IF the battery, loaded on another machine, booted the machine, it COULD NOT be the motherboard as that is needed no matter what you boot from. IF it boots from a loaded battery, but not when battery is disconnected, but connected to the wall power outlet, nor is charging the battery, it could be: 1. the sound card as that supplies the motherboard with power from the wall power outlet (rule out all other possibilites and then replace the card or see if visibly needs resoldering) OR 2. the AC adapter itself (try with a known good one) If I misunderstood you here it is because you did not supply with the full set of symptoms. Please do if the above doesn't make sense. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo troubleshooting
On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 08:52:30AM +0200, Mikael Bystr?m wrote: Adam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The good news is that I already tested with a battery and eliminated this as a possibility... unless the AC board has magical powers to prevent a boot from a battery, which doesn't seem entirely likely. What I am trying to do here is figure out if it is the Logic Board, Processor card, or battery board that could cause a completely cold, dead, lifeless Pismo. It is as if it is a door-stop. Exactly what results did the battery test give when you can say that the Pismo is as if it is a door-stop? IF the battery, loaded on another machine, booted the machine, it COULD NOT be the motherboard as that is needed no matter what you boot from. IF it boots from a loaded battery, but not when battery is disconnected, but connected to the wall power outlet, nor is charging the battery, it could be: 1. the sound card as that supplies the motherboard with power from the wall power outlet (rule out all other possibilites and then replace the card or see if visibly needs resoldering) OR 2. the AC adapter itself (try with a known good one) If I misunderstood you here it is because you did not supply with the full set of symptoms. Please do if the above doesn't make sense. Okay, here is the full situation... I had a working Lombard which fell and cracked the screen. The only thing wrong is the screen, but someone with a 'dead' Pismo was willing to give it up in order that my laptop might live. I decided it would be cheaper to repair the Pismo, and needed to start tracking down the culprit. My batteries/AC and the like are all known good as they are from the Lombard. I couldn't supply a full set of symptoms because the only symptoms I got was: no sound, no power, no battery charging, no HD whirr, nothing. Kinda hard to nail something down when you have nothing to work with, isn't it? Anyways, it was actually just a logic board 'lock-up' which needed a PRAM battery disconnect and full reset. Ironic, as the guy isn't even interested in the laptop anymore. The problem now is that the sound board does still need to be replaced (sound doesn't work, although the AC does), and that the firmware on this Pismo is as it was when it left the factory back in 2000. While it is great to nail down the problem, and I could replace the board with the Lombard's (in theory), I would rather get a nice Pismo-oriented Sound/AC board. That means I have a 40GB 10.3 HD that won't boot, 10.2/10.3 CDs which twitch out when booting, and 9.0 CDs which are too old to boot to do the firmware upgrade. I do have 10.0 and 10.1 CDs which boot great and have no problems (and sees the RAM I swapped over from the Lombard, which is good). So, now I have to hunt down a 9.1 install CD so I can boot this sucker, update the firmware, and then boot back into 10.3 and move forward in college. I also need this laptop functional within the next few days, as I have obligations which are being seriously hurt (college and job) because the Lombard was my work machine away from home, and the Pismo is now tweaking because it wants new firmware, and I lack a simple install CD. I guess my main option for now, just so I can do SOME work is to grab my old 4GB drive, install 10.1 on it until I can procure the 9.1 CD. That leads me to another question... anyone here have a 9.1 Install CD they are willing to part with for a reasonable fee? ;) Regards, Adam Thayer -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Anyone else having probs with the list
Getting that message saying that emails from the list are bouncing back to B-Books. Hmmm. . .hope this doesn't keep happening. Pray, folks, pray, that what is happening to the iBook list doesn't happen to this one! To wit, I had to unsubscribe because the server was sending multiple copies of either the Digest version or individual emails to every subscriber. Yesterday, I went to my mail server at Earthlink and deleted 1500 individual emails from my in box rather than sit and wait for them to download then delete them from my machine. bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
New Hard Drive
I have just purchased a 40gig hard drive from OWC for my Lombard(arriving UPS within the next hour or two, hopefully). I would like to know the most efficient way to get my current information switched from my old hard drive to the new one. Thanks once again. Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Hard Drive
on 31/07/04 10:13, Michael Richardson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a 40gig hard drive from OWC for my Lombard(arriving UPS within the next hour or two, hopefully). I would like to know the most efficient way to get my current information switched from my old hard drive to the new one. Thanks once again. The problem here first is how you're going to have access to both drives at the same time, since you want to transfer from one to the other. Do you have any USB or FireWire enclosure? Do you have other ways to backup your current drive so that you can switch the new one and restore on it? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] buzzword-compliant: [also `buzzword-enabled'] Used (disparagingly) of products that seem to have been specified to incorporate all of this month's trendy technologies. Key buzzwords that often show up in buzzword-compliant specifications as of 2001 include `XML', `Java', `peer-to-peer', `distributed', and `open'. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Hard Drive
My Reply follows quote. On 31/07/2004 08:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: on 31/07/04 10:13, Michael Richardson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a 40gig hard drive from OWC for my Lombard(arriving UPS within the next hour or two, hopefully). I would like to know the most efficient way to get my current information switched from my old hard drive to the new one. Thanks once again. The problem here first is how you're going to have access to both drives at the same time, since you want to transfer from one to the other. Do you have any USB or FireWire enclosure? Do you have other ways to backup your current drive so that you can switch the new one and restore on it? -Laurent. The way I have done such things in the past is to hook up an external SCSI drive (the only kind I have on hand), boot the machine from a CD-ROM, copy the internal drive to the external hard drive, shut down the machine, install the new drive, boot from the CD-ROM again, format the drive, copy the contents of the external drive to the new internal drive. Tedious, but... Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Slim CD-IDE Adapter in PB G4?
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikael=20Bystr=F6m?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slim CD-IDE Adapter in PB G4? Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:00:32 +0200 Is the SlimCD-IDE Adapter, 50 pin to 40 pin, the connector that Powerbook G4 (or Powerbooks in general) use? Or what is the connector? The drives are the same - in the Pismo/Lombard the IDE interface is through a PC board at the back of the expansion bay carrier. The TiBook has a special cable. The cable from the standard DVD will not work with anything else like a combo drive, the connectors are on a different side. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OSX zero
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:24:56 EDT Subject: OSX zero Hello, Until yesterday, when I acquired a Wallstreet I with a Sonnet 500mhz processor upgrade w/ OSX installed, I had no experience with the OS, except for seeing it on the Macs at my local Comp USA/Apple Store/Micro Centers... I know Nooo-THing, NOOOoo-Thing! about OSX! My questions are these: snip (3) If I decide to put the HD from the WS into my ibook 300mhz, will it function properly? The WS had PC cards for firewire, wifi and USB, and the corresponding software, so I know some adjusting will be needed. It won't fit. The standard Wallstreet hard drive was 12mm high, and the iBook requires a 9mm drive. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Anyone know where to get expansion bay hard drives anymore?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone know where to get expansion bay hard drives anymore? The connectors are different, because the PowerBook G3 have TWO Expansion Bays. One for the battery and the other for a CD-Rom (or CD-RW), a DVD Rom (or DVD-RW), a Zip, a second Hard drive, a second Battery, a Floppy, etc. So you can put two batteries at the same time (one on each Bay) so the PowerBook G3 will work for 10 HOURS !! That's why you can't use a G3 drive on a G4 (there are enclosures to connect the drives as FireWire devices) as internal drives. This isn't exactly true - the drives themselves are the same, only the connectors are different. A drive can be removed from the expansion bay to be used on a different computer. I replaced my TiBook DVD drive with a combo drive, and later upgraded that to a faster model. Then I took it and put it into a Pismo caddy so a friend now has a cool Pismo slot-loader. I'm working on adapting a SuperDisk caddy so that the slot-loader looks correct. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo troubleshooting
I'm having a similar problem. Pismo froze, wouldn't restart. Eventually after many resets, got the HD to spin up but no boot cycle and no video (external output either). Bought an unused motherboard off ebay and installed it last night. Dead as a doornail. 7 hrs later, saw 4 green lights on the battery I used from this pismo, then it spun up like before--didn't boot. Below got me thinking processor so I put this one in to the dead machine--still nothing (I suspect a wait is nec for something to happen with power on and battery out, like my 1400 required periodically). So I put the other processor in this one, and got same symptoms. Sure looks like I need a new processor. I might as well get a faster replacement (both pismos are 400s). But which one? Is speed increase significant enough to go to OSX? I will likely have a virturally new Pismo motherboard for sale too. J In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Adam Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pismo troubleshooting Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:05:51 -0700 On Jul 30, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Alejandro wrote: Check this. With powerbook attached to the AC Adapter (no battery), press the start button, and you should hear a little contact sound at the same time the Start button is pressed (before the Startup sound). If you don't maybe the machine is not powered at all. You are right in that the machine is not getting power to where it=20 needs to go. However, it doesn't seem like the Battery Board, and since power is not=20= getting anywhere (entire machine is cold after pressing the power=20 button), that would leave the logic board, correct? What I am trying to=20= do is figure out what components would cause the Pismo to remain cold=20 dead with both a fully charged battery, and an AC power source. First and easiest thing to check is the RAM. I've seen a few Pismos refuse to boot because they had a stick of bad ram. If that's not it, try a different processor (assuming you've also checked it's not that the processor isn't fully seated on the logic board). Well, if it is a bad stick of RAM, there should be something happening.=20= HD noise, a light, the normal speaker 'click', the beeps of the=20 self-diagnostic, something. Bad RAM doesn't stop power from flowing=20 like this. On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:48 AM, Mikael Bystr=F6m wrote: Are you sure the Soundcard gives power to the I/O board? This was the reason in a dead Pismo I dissected recently. The good news is that I already tested with a battery and eliminated=20 this as a possibility... unless the AC board has magical powers to=20 prevent a boot from a battery, which doesn't seem entirely likely. What I am trying to do here is figure out if it is the Logic Board,=20 Processor card, or battery board that could cause a completely cold,=20 dead, lifeless Pismo. It is as if it is a door-stop. Regards, Adam Thayer -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet G3 will not accept Netscape 7.02
I am trying to load Netscape 7.02 on my wife's Wallstreet. If I try to load from the download to the Wallstreet I get an error - 43 (file not found) and a system freeze. If I try to load from a download to a Syquest 200MB disk Netscape starts to load and I get a failed error - 202 (problems with sound or sound files) while it is installing XPCOM file 1 of 12. How do I trouble shoot this problem? I do not get any sound when dialing into AOL. Thanks for any help. Warren -aka- yeoleman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Hard Drive
Hi. You should use Carbon Copy Cloner. Check the Application here: http://www.bombich.com/software/index.html If you find it useful, you can donate but it's free. --- Michael Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a 40gig hard drive from OWC for my Lombard(arriving UPS within the next hour or two, hopefully). I would like to know the most efficient way to get my current information switched from my old hard drive to the new one. Thanks once again. Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Anyone know where to get expansion bay hard drives anymore?
I told that, because the cases are different. Some people don't want to dissasemble a drive from it's case. --- Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone know where to get expansion bay hard drives anymore? The connectors are different, because the PowerBook G3 have TWO Expansion Bays. One for the battery and the other for a CD-Rom (or CD-RW), a DVD Rom (or DVD-RW), a Zip, a second Hard drive, a second Battery, a Floppy, etc. So you can put two batteries at the same time (one on each Bay) so the PowerBook G3 will work for 10 HOURS !! That's why you can't use a G3 drive on a G4 (there are enclosures to connect the drives as FireWire devices) as internal drives. This isn't exactly true - the drives themselves are the same, only the connectors are different. A drive can be removed from the expansion bay to be used on a different computer. I replaced my TiBook DVD drive with a combo drive, and later upgraded that to a faster model. Then I took it and put it into a Pismo caddy so a friend now has a cool Pismo slot-loader. I'm working on adapting a SuperDisk caddy so that the slot-loader looks correct. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet G3 will not accept Netscape 7.02
On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 09:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to load Netscape 7.02 on my wife's Wallstreet. If I try to load from the download to the Wallstreet I get an error - 43 (file not found) and a system freeze. If I try to load from a download to a Syquest 200MB disk Netscape starts to load and I get a failed error - 202 (problems with sound or sound files) while it is installing XPCOM file 1 of 12. If you downloaded the full installer, it may be corrupted. If the download is only a few hundred K, this installer requires network access during the install. I think the 202 error is erroneous. I'd also do a Disk Utility check of both drives. (and how well does your Syquest disk work under OSX anyway?) -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet G3 will not accept Netscape 7.02
The Netscape 7.02 downloaded to my Syquest drive loads to my G3 - 233 Desktop with no problems. I am running 8.6 on both the Wallstreet and the G3 Desktop. I purchased an OS 9.04 PowerBook Install Disk which also will not install on the Wallstreet. Could my Netscape problem be related to the OS 9 install refusal? As yet I do not have OS 10 so have not tried with the Syquest. In a message dated 7/31/04 1:55:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 09:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to load Netscape 7.02 on my wife's Wallstreet. If I try to load from the download to the Wallstreet I get an error - 43 (file not found) and a system freeze. If I try to load from a download to a Syquest 200MB disk Netscape starts to load and I get a failed error - 202 (problems with sound or sound files) while it is installing XPCOM file 1 of 12. If you downloaded the full installer, it may be corrupted. If the download is only a few hundred K, this installer requires network access during the install. I think the 202 error is erroneous. I'd also do a Disk Utility check of both drives. (and how well does your Syquest disk work under OSX anyway?) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
optical drive replacement infos
As usual, I reference my own page as a good place to start: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ebms.html However, I don't yet have any infos there about upgrading G4 PowerBook and iBook optical drives. That page is still to come awaiting my time and inclination. However, here's some information related to (IIRC) the OP's TiBook optical upgrade question. The first generation 400/500 TiBooks use a non-standard-form-factor slot-load DVD slim drive, without any extra brackets and with a non-standard location for its 50-pin ATAPI connector. All later models use a standard-form-factor slim drive equipped with a pair of mounting brackets. The cables and mounting brackets are different between the 550/667 models and the DVI (667-1gHz) models, neither can use cables or brackets from the other series. Three points specific to the 400/500 models: A) It is possible to replace a 400/500's optical with a standard form-factor slim drive with some additional steps. The original drive has no brackets, its rubber mounting grommets attaching directly to the drive. Standard form-factor slim drives need brackets, those from a 550/667 model will work, those from DVI models will NOT. B) On the couple of swaps I did, with the replacement drive in place the case bottom didn't fit. A pair of protrusions need to be trimmed off at the front edge of the case bottom to allow it to seat correctly. C) Also, as Jeff Hubatka pointed out, the cable from the original drive won't work with standard form-factor slim drives. A cable from the 550/667 series will work, but DVI model's cable will NOT work. To sum up, to install a standard slot-load slim drive into a 400/500 TiBook, from a TiBook 550/667 you'll need a pair of brackets and an interface cable, plus you'll have to trim the case bottom. Specific to all later models (550-1gHz): A) Nothing else is needed, just about any slot-load slim optical in the standard form-factor should physically fit into the brackets (and 'Book) and will attach correctly to the interface cable. Other Apple models with slot-load drives: Haven't got any, so I can't offer any specific advice. However, I'd bet long odds that all later iBooks and AlBooks use standard form-factor drives and therefore should be pretty straightforward swapping candidates. That is all. :-) Dan K . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet G3 will not accept Netscape 7.02
Hi. I have Netscape 7 on my Lombard PowerBook running Mac OS 8.6 and it works fine. I believe that you have another problem. Try trashing the Netscape (and Mozilla) preferences (System Folder - Preferences - Netscape/Mozilla). Hope that helps. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Netscape 7.02 downloaded to my Syquest drive loads to my G3 - 233 Desktop with no problems. I am running 8.6 on both the Wallstreet and the G3 Desktop. I purchased an OS 9.04 PowerBook Install Disk which also will not install on the Wallstreet. Could my Netscape problem be related to the OS 9 install refusal? As yet I do not have OS 10 so have not tried with the Syquest. In a message dated 7/31/04 1:55:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 09:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to load Netscape 7.02 on my wife's Wallstreet. If I try to load from the download to the Wallstreet I get an error - 43 (file not found) and a system freeze. If I try to load from a download to a Syquest 200MB disk Netscape starts to load and I get a failed error - 202 (problems with sound or sound files) while it is installing XPCOM file 1 of 12. If you downloaded the full installer, it may be corrupted. If the download is only a few hundred K, this installer requires network access during the install. I think the 202 error is erroneous. I'd also do a Disk Utility check of both drives. (and how well does your Syquest disk work under OSX anyway?) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Hard Drive
--- Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 31/07/2004 08:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: on 31/07/04 10:13, Michael Richardson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a 40gig hard drive from OWC for my Lombard(arriving UPS within the next hour or two, hopefully). I would like to know the most efficient way to get my current information switched from my old hard drive to the new one. Thanks once again. The problem here first is how you're going to have access to both drives at the same time, since you want to transfer from one to the other. Do you have any USB or FireWire enclosure? Do you have other ways to backup your current drive so that you can switch the new one and restore on it? -Laurent. The way I have done such things in the past is to hook up an external SCSI drive (the only kind I have on hand), boot the machine from a CD-ROM, copy the internal drive to the external hard I do have a 60gig external usb hard drive. I figured i could use it to copy my current hard drive content. Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Hard Drive
on 31/07/04 15:50, Michael Richardson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 31/07/2004 08:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: on 31/07/04 10:13, Michael Richardson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a 40gig hard drive from OWC for my Lombard(arriving UPS within the next hour or two, hopefully). I would like to know the most efficient way to get my current information switched from my old hard drive to the new one. Thanks once again. The problem here first is how you're going to have access to both drives at the same time, since you want to transfer from one to the other. Do you have any USB or FireWire enclosure? Do you have other ways to backup your current drive so that you can switch the new one and restore on it? -Laurent. The way I have done such things in the past is to hook up an external SCSI drive (the only kind I have on hand), boot the machine from a CD-ROM, copy the internal drive to the external hard I do have a 60gig external usb hard drive. I figured i could use it to copy my current hard drive content. Then, depending on what system you run, you have 2 options: if running OS 9, then you could just drag the folders from the Finder; if running OS X, then as somebody else mentioned, you can use Carbon Copy Cloner. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] coaster n.: 1. Unuseable CD produced during failed attempt at writing to writeable or re-writeable CD media. Certainly related to the coaster-like shape of a CD, and the relative value of these failures. I made a lot of coasters before I got a good CD. 2. Useless CDs received in the mail from the likes of AOL, MSN, CI$, Prodigy, ad nauseam. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo troubleshooting
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pismo troubleshooting You have a Lombard wich needs a screen to work. Well, you can place the Pismo's one. This will be the faster solution. Follow these steps: http://homepage.mac.com/scadboy/lcd/ Anyway, it will be better to fix the Pismo, because it's the only which have DVD Playback on OS X and has a better Video Card.\ Pismo and Lombard do not have the same screens - the flat cable connectors on them are in about a quarter-inch different place and so do not match up correctly. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo troubleshooting
--- Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pismo troubleshooting You have a Lombard wich needs a screen to work. Well, you can place the Pismo's one. This will be the faster solution. Follow these steps: http://homepage.mac.com/scadboy/lcd/ Anyway, it will be better to fix the Pismo, because it's the only which have DVD Playback on OS X and has a better Video Card.\ Pismo and Lombard do not have the same screens - the flat cable connectors on them are in about a quarter-inch different place and so do not match up correctly. The screens aren't the same, but the LCD can be replaced. Check the page and you will see that the Pismo and the Lombard can have the same LCD (inside the cover screen). Apple changed some things, because they DON'T want users replacing LCDs on NON Apple Services. Instead of having cheaper prices, they replaced the connectors. Funny, isn't it? All of these panels are compatible with PowerBook G3s with 14.1 Displays: - WallStreet (G3 233-292) - PDQ (Revised Wallstreet) - Lombard (Built-in USB) - Pismo (Built-In Firewire) --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Where in OS X are the settings for window views saved?
Hello All, For some reason, my settings for only two windows do not save. Specifically, my main hard drive window and the applications (for OS X) window. Only these two windows always go to a default setting after reboot/cold boot. Example: I have everything positioned the way I want; icons displayed by kind and the toolbar set to off and the icons slightly larger for easier viewing. I also prefer a background image using one of Apple's background images that came with Panther. After re-boot, the hard drive window is back to a display similar to what you get when popping in a CD-ROM. The toolbar is set to on and the icons are small and un-organized, and the background is gone. I have to manually do everything again to get it back to the way I wanted it. What gives!? Is this a PRAM issue? I repaired permissions. . .thinking that might of had something to do with it, but nope. . .same thing. I noticed this a few days ago and haven't been able to fix it. . .yet. Any ideas would be helpful. So far, besides repairing permissions, I've reset my PRAM battery (not sure if this has anything to do with window view) and I've booted from my Jaguar CD and ran Disk Utility to repair my HDD. Still not fixed. Thanks for any input, Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Where in OS X are the settings for window views saved?
Hi. The Windows settings (and icons) are stored on Invisible files in each Window. There's an application (TinkerTool) wich can make those files visible (and invisible again). Check http://www.versiontracker.com/ Anyway, I'm not sure if once visible, you can trash them. Other way should be using the Command Line, but I don't know how. Hope that helps. --- Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, For some reason, my settings for only two windows do not save. Specifically, my main hard drive window and the applications (for OS X) window. Only these two windows always go to a default setting after reboot/cold boot. Example: I have everything positioned the way I want; icons displayed by kind and the toolbar set to off and the icons slightly larger for easier viewing. I also prefer a background image using one of Apple's background images that came with Panther. After re-boot, the hard drive window is back to a display similar to what you get when popping in a CD-ROM. The toolbar is set to on and the icons are small and un-organized, and the background is gone. I have to manually do everything again to get it back to the way I wanted it. What gives!? Is this a PRAM issue? I repaired permissions. . .thinking that might of had something to do with it, but nope. . .same thing. I noticed this a few days ago and haven't been able to fix it. . .yet. Any ideas would be helpful. So far, besides repairing permissions, I've reset my PRAM battery (not sure if this has anything to do with window view) and I've booted from my Jaguar CD and ran Disk Utility to repair my HDD. Still not fixed. Thanks for any input, Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Sleeve for Titanium PB with Tote-n-Tilt?
Does anyone have a recommendation on a Sleeve for a Ti PB G4 that has the Ti Tote-N-Tilt handle, preferably one that is in the $30 to $50 range? I've been looking at the MacCase 15.2 PowerBook sleeve but I'm a little concerned about the wrap-around tab not reaching it's velcro because of the Ti's handle. I'm also looking at the SportFolio 15'' Shark Skin sleeve, but worried that the handle will get in the way of the zipper. I remember that Brenthaven's Titanium 1 bag's sleeve would barely close with the handle. I'm pretty sure I'm limited to a top-loading sleeve because of the handle. I appreciate any quick replies - I'm getting this for my Mom's birthday this week. Thanks, Peter A little computer haiku: I can't remember the last time I restarted I love OS X This message sent with Mail.app 1.3.8 on Mac OS X 10.3.4 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Sleeve for Titanium PB with Tote-n-Tilt?
check out http://www.sfbags.com/. I don't have the TiPB, but like my sleeve. -- ### Erik Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 608-242-7604 Urban Outfitters: http://nrdc.org/onearth/04win/reviews.asp Dirty Minds: http://www.gristmagazine.com/books/books121503.asp -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
