Re: Apple Mail
I'm really sorry if anybody gets offended by this but Office v.X was pretty good and Office 2004 is VERY GOOD. Entourage is a totally integrated application: mail, calendar, contacts and tons of options on how to use everything to the max. I might add that there is a conduit included to sync Entourage with your PDA. While I still like Apple's Mail App and iCal and Address Book (all work really well). Entourage has them all in one. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. As for Office, nothing compares to it. Certainly not AppleWorks! And I know somebody is going to chime in about 'Open Office' or whatever it's called.it's slow and clumsy. Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? This email response is written using Entourage 2004 on a G4 iBook. Tim On 12/24/04 2:45 AM, Mark Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2004, at PM 03:11, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: You have some juice use it. 100 computers will not get you a free ride on Steves Gulfstream, but they will listen. That's the beauty of the Mac the software meshes with the hardware and no matter if there big or small. You plop a wad of M$$ and it just puts FOD in your engine. Job security I guess Actually, Apple Mail (in Panther OS) *does* connect to Exchange Server. Maybe that may be worth investigating... -- Best, Mark. -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
Thus spoke Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]12/24/04 I'm really sorry if anybody gets offended by this but Office v.X was pretty good and Office 2004 is VERY GOOD. Entourage is a totally integrated application: mail, calendar, contacts and tons of options on how to use everything to the max. I might add that there is a conduit included to sync Entourage with your PDA. While I still like Apple's Mail App and iCal and Address Book (all work really well). Entourage has them all in one. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. As for Office, nothing compares to it. Certainly not AppleWorks! And I know somebody is going to chime in about 'Open Office' or whatever it's called.it's slow and clumsy. Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? This email response is written using Entourage 2004 on a G4 iBook. lol...relax and calm down, we are not dealing with life and death issues here. Use what you like and what works best for your needs. Health and happiness to all, including Entourage users this holiday season. This email response was wriiten with Entourage and sent with Mailsmith using my reliable and good friend G3 Pismo. sacredsystem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
Yea. I'm having trouble figuring out how my choice to use entourage in going to send thousands flocking to wintel...but whatever. This email written on my good technologies enabled treo, entourage and apple mail be damned!! -Original Message- From: sacredsystem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri Dec 24 07:42:34 2004 To: G-Books Subject:Re: Apple Mail Thus spoke Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]12/24/04 I'm really sorry if anybody gets offended by this but Office v.X was pretty good and Office 2004 is VERY GOOD. Entourage is a totally integrated application: mail, calendar, contacts and tons of options on how to use everything to the max. I might add that there is a conduit included to sync Entourage with your PDA. While I still like Apple's Mail App and iCal and Address Book (all work really well). Entourage has them all in one. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. As for Office, nothing compares to it. Certainly not AppleWorks! And I know somebody is going to chime in about 'Open Office' or whatever it's called.it's slow and clumsy. Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? This email response is written using Entourage 2004 on a G4 iBook. lol...relax and calm down, we are not dealing with life and death issues here. Use what you like and what works best for your needs. Health and happiness to all, including Entourage users this holiday season. This email response was wriiten with Entourage and sent with Mailsmith using my reliable and good friend G3 Pismo. sacredsystem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- ** This email message and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom this email message is addressed. If you have received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or email and destroy the original message without making a copy. Thank you. ** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
Your also telling 100 plus workers using Macs, Apple Mail is a failure. What does that say to your Mac users when it comes time to buy a computer and most people use them off work for, emailing and surfing. Well the tech guy at our company does not like Apple Mail says it does not do things right, Internet Explorer is not being updated, so guess we better get a Wintel. Well if you want integrated email, calendaring, to do lists, etc all in one application, then yes, Apple Mail is a failure, and Entourage is the choice to make. This is what a lot of BUSINESSES want or demand from their email product. I'm one of the tech guys at my company, and I'm also the one primarily responsible for email. Our messaging infrastructure is based on Exchange, and Apple's mail is not the client for me to use in that environment. OTOH, for my personal email at home, I use Apple Mail, even though I have Entourage installed on my PowerBook. I love Apple and their products, but in the business world it's the best tool for the best job. Apple Mail is a great basic email program, and personally I'd like it to continue to focus on that market rather than try and become an Entourage killer. If your tech guy is basing his techology platform decisions solely off of the fact that he does not like Apple Mail, and that IE isn't being updated, then he should be fired, and you should find a competent replacement. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
CDROM not recognized?
I'm setting up a Pismo for my little sis for xmas. I started with a fresh format, installed X.3, did all the software updates and last night went to install some other apps on it and no matter what I put in the CDROM, it wouldn't read the disk, mount it or otherwise recognize that there was a disc in the drive. I tried all these CDs on another Pismo, worked fine. I repaired permissions and the only error or message it shows is something about cd9660. Any ideas what I can do to fix this? I have to have it finished tonight. Thanks a bunch and happy holidays. Rad... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
What are the major differences between Entourage and Outlook Express? I have both but has never used either. I've always used the mail application that comes with netscape for my isp mail. What am I missing? TIA. Pete. --- Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really sorry if anybody gets offended by this but Office v.X was pretty good and Office 2004 is VERY GOOD. Entourage is a totally integrated application: mail, calendar, contacts and tons of options on how to use everything to the max. I might add that there is a conduit included to sync Entourage with your PDA. While I still like Apple's Mail App and iCal and Address Book (all work really well). Entourage has them all in one. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. As for Office, nothing compares to it. Certainly not AppleWorks! And I know somebody is going to chime in about 'Open Office' or whatever it's called.it's slow and clumsy. Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? This email response is written using Entourage 2004 on a G4 iBook. Tim On 12/24/04 2:45 AM, Mark Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: SimpleSound
I found it in the Applications folder. It's called Sound Studio. SimpleSound is just those beep noises...not much help there for my recording purposes. I guess there must be a yahoolist for my G3 beige...I have some configuration questions...because some websites don't fully load. Like paypal, hallmark...I must not have either enough memory...settings to the best of the ability. I guess i would just like a cheat sheet on configuring this old mac to its fullest capability. Merry Christmas to any who believe. -- Kristina Strange to see how a good dinner feasting reconciles everybody. -- Samuel Pepys (English, 1633-1703) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
I agree, Office 2004 is by far the best office suite I've ever used, regardless of platform. Entourage has grown from an also-ran in the 2001 version to pretty nice in v.X to, as described in a review on Mac360, The Best Email Program on the Planet. I agree. Andrew On 12/24/04 4:25 AM, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really sorry if anybody gets offended by this but Office v.X was pretty good and Office 2004 is VERY GOOD. Entourage is a totally integrated application: mail, calendar, contacts and tons of options on how to use everything to the max. I might add that there is a conduit included to sync Entourage with your PDA. While I still like Apple's Mail App and iCal and Address Book (all work really well). Entourage has them all in one. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. As for Office, nothing compares to it. Certainly not AppleWorks! And I know somebody is going to chime in about 'Open Office' or whatever it's called.it's slow and clumsy. Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? This email response is written using Entourage 2004 on a G4 iBook. Tim On 12/24/04 2:45 AM, Mark Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2004, at PM 03:11, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: You have some juice use it. 100 computers will not get you a free ride on Steves Gulfstream, but they will listen. That's the beauty of the Mac the software meshes with the hardware and no matter if there big or small. You plop a wad of M$$ and it just puts FOD in your engine. Job security I guess Actually, Apple Mail (in Panther OS) *does* connect to Exchange Server. Maybe that may be worth investigating... -- Best, Mark. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
On Friday, December 24, 2004, at 07:25 AM, Tim Collier wrote: I'm really sorry if anybody gets offended by this but Office v.X was pretty good and Office 2004 is VERY GOOD. I think almost everyone loved MacBU for Office v. Mac from the beginning of OS X. Back when few applications were yet ported to OS X, Office was a shining exception. And it was always fun to know that Mac users had a better version of Office than Windows users. The exception being the mail application. It's good to know 2004 is even better! Donald -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
At 8:16 AM -0800 12/24/04, PETE wrote: What are the major differences between Entourage and Outlook Express? I have both but has never used either. I've always used the mail application that comes with netscape for my isp mail. What am I missing? Outlook Express was just a basic email program. Outlook itself is a Personal Information Manager (PIM) and contains email, contacts, calender, notes, plus a couple of more things. Entourage is the renamed Outlook for Macintosh. Apple Mail replaced Outlook Express for Macintosh. I personally use Eudora as my email client. I've looked at Apple Mail but I don't like the way navigation works, and Eudora doesn't require the use of html in mail the way other email programs are starting to do. Lastly, I ABHOR Microsoft; I have to use their crappy products every day at work! However, IF you require accessing a Microsoft Exchange Server, then Entourage is probably the way to go. If you do not require it, then what ever email program you are comfortable with is fine. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
Sorry Don't mean to change gears hear, but has anyone used Thunderbird? What do you think about it? Dean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: CDROM not recognized?
Is this the original CD that came with the Pismo? If so, could it have gone bad? Is it still spinning? I recently bought a Sony CRX830 CDR, and so far it is working great! Kate On Dec 24, 2004, at 7:51 AM, Rad Craig wrote: I'm setting up a Pismo for my little sis for xmas. I started with a fresh format, installed X.3, did all the software updates and last night went to install some other apps on it and no matter what I put in the CDROM, it wouldn't read the disk, mount it or otherwise recognize that there was a disc in the drive. I tried all these CDs on another Pismo, worked fine. I repaired permissions and the only error or message it shows is something about cd9660. Any ideas what I can do to fix this? I have to have it finished tonight. Thanks a bunch and happy holidays. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Is my Wall Street's connection problem fixable?
From: Rad Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is my Wall Street's connection problem fixable? Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:37:34 -0600 On Dec 23, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Gary Goldberg wrote: Every time I visit my mother I have a hell of a time connecting to my ISP from her house (which was built in 1991)...while her 1997-era Compaq laptop has no problem (connecting to AOL). It takes about 10 tries to get a connection. Otherwise it fails at Starting PPP) using OS 9.1 and Remote Access. I have no problems anywhere else, even at my brother's in the same town, dialling into the same access numbers. Is there a known problem with the Wall Street modems? I did the firmware upgrade that became available in late 1998. I've tried other modem scripts but since I have no connection problems elsewhere, I figure it's either the modem or the large number of phones at Mom's (I've unplugged several of them, but that doesn't help and, anyway, why doesn't SHE have problems with her older laptop?) Might be something simple like a noisy line? Maybe the modems that AOL uses in their local exchange there are a brand that's a little more tolerant of noisy lines? Where her ISP is probably using older modems, like the kind when 56k first came out, they were very picky with this. It's a cheap thing to try at least. Go to Radio Shack and get an 'in-line filter choke' (I'm assuming they still have them). You will wrap your phone line around these u-shaped (together they make a circle), magnet-looking things, several times. It will improve the speed by cutting down on noise at the very least, but might also solve your problem. Some phone line noise can't be heard by us, but can be heard by the modem. I've seen these things work personally. When i used to use dial-up (used to own an ISP 10 years ago), I'd never use a modem without one. Install it on the end of your phone line where it plugs into the modem, as close as possible to that port. Back then, those were my only choice, but I just googled and this looks like the thing to get: http://www.ky-filters.com/filters.htm Not to expensive to try, it definitely won't HURT anything, can only make it better. I'd get two, one for home, one to travel with. I didn't look for any others that might be cheaper, just wanted to give you a place to look in the right direction. HTH. Rad... Well, it's hard to believe that the line is noisy every time I've visited for the last 6 years and it's not really worth buying something for once or twice a year visits. Also, the voice quality is OK and the connection speed is normally 45333-49333. I've experimented with turning error correction on and off, but with no improvement -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Transfer of saved e-mails/recommended e-mail app?
Michael Clarke said: Otherwise, there's got to be some way to export the data from the Powerbook to the iBook first? I found some scripts written by a gentleman name Paul Berkowitz that will perform this export/import for $20. data? If you're talking about email, I think all you need with entourage is dragging the folders to the desktop, which will create a unix mailbox (I think). These will import into Entourage nicely, I'm pretty sure. I don't know what files in OS 9.2 contain the data I need to export. What *is* the data? There are lots of info that you may need, like login and passwords. Make a list of what you can think of, with details of your terms for it, in what app you use the data. I think you should *backup* all the data and keep the old machine intact for a while in case you forget something, but don't worry about where it is for now. Try and remember first what you need to bring. Most OS 9 prefs and so on, won't be exportable and you need to set them anew in your OS X apps. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: CDRW for clamshell iBook
On Thursday, December 23, 2004, at 09:09 PM, Dan K wrote: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: What mechanisms (if any) will work to put a CDRW into an original tangerine iBook? This will be with OS X 10.3. As usual xlr8yourmac.com is the place for specific details. Duh! I should have thought of that! Most any slim optical will work, just don't expect to able to re-use the original faceplate. I've got a Matshita UJDA330 CD/RW installed in our blueberry clamshell. It's got the generic faceplate and doesn't look especially spiffy but works just fine. So pretty much anything on this page should work? http://computers.listings.ebay.com/Drives_CD-R-CD-RW- Drives_W0QQfromZR13QQlopgZ2QQsacategoryZ38116QQsocmdZListingItemList -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
Dude, Take a chill pill. I'm the biggest Mac fan on the planet. I even have my own website dedicated to my platform of choice. I have a G5 at home, that is completely Microsoft free. I keep all my Microsoft Applications on my G4 PowerBook, which I use to access the office when I'm offsite. Second, I don't use Exchange at the office. I set up an Email Server using Communigate Pro. It works like a champ. The reason why I think Microsoft Office 2004 kicks Ass, is that everyone at the Office loves it. When they found out they could set up a shared calendar in the Project Center, you don't know how happy that made them. It's my job to keep things running smoothly. If everyone at the office was using a different email client that wouldn't happen. How many offices do you know that are 95% Mac based. I don't know of many. Only our Finance department has PC's, plus a few stragglers. I'll leave it at that. Happy Holidays. Take Care. Aaron Willems http://www.macmanifest.com So if you are in a position of controlling over a 100 Macs, which I honestly respect, get Apple on the phone, tell them the problems, maybe they have a solution you have not thought of. Your a player, they are at least going to listen or read your typed mail asking for an answer, probably even better approach. As long as there are Tech people like you, who will not take Apple to the mat and demand the functionality you need to work in this, *Windows World* and just push aside Apple Mail or other Apple products, what are you doing ? Your just helping to cut the product share even more, when you have not even asked Apple about your problems. There might be solutions to what you need. Your also telling 100 plus workers using Macs, Apple Mail is a failure. What does that say to your Mac users when it comes time to buy a computer and most people use them off work for, emailing and surfing. Well the tech guy at our company does not like Apple Mail says it does not do things right, Internet Explorer is not being updated, so guess we better get a Wintel. When these 100 workers are asked by their friends, what computer they should buy, the workers are now the computer experts, their now the Tech guy, so from your influence against Mail it just blasts loud and clear Apple Mail is inferior, buy Wintel and it grows like a virus. You have some juice use it. 100 computers will not get you a free ride on Steves Gulfstream, but they will listen. That's the beauty of the Mac the software meshes with the hardware and no matter if there big or small. You plop a wad of M$$ and it just puts FOD in your engine. Job security I guess Geof -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
On Dec 24, 2004, at 4:25 AM, Tim Collier Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? So what do you want to do, compare portfolios, usually people who steal the high end Apps are the ones saying Not Me While we are at it Adobe Acrobat 7 does leave features off the windoz version and screw them I will stay at 6. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. Really wow did not know that one thanks So what does methinks do when Microsoft says Apple is improving Appleworks and it Rocks, so M$$ is not going to upgrade or build any Office products or scale it back for the Mac, not enough sales. I have read where the Apple Group is now not exactly the top spot at Gates University and getting the requirements needed for development, their not at the head of the class so to speak. I will bet you have seen you last full release of Office for the Mac But no worries M$$ now owns VPC and that runs great, so if you get VPC you can run straight windoz office That M$$ always thinking ahead for better products for the Mac M$$ beats the lawsuits with a little window dressing, rubbing up to Apple, working very hard to build a version of Office for Mac X. After all Bill did say MS is a good company and competition is good for us, keeps us on the cutting edge.chuckles. So now all M$$ problems have vanished. They heavily gave to the incumbent chair warmer, so what's the advantage to Bill to keep putting out good Apple products, more money, fear of loss of integrity by the biggest killer of technology in the world. Keep playing Siegfried and Roy and you just might be reading up on Windows more then you want I did not say Office Sucks. I have to keep one scummy machine with it. I said, hold Apple to the fire for better software, that you IT guys, who I respected, have the power to say hey do it this way and it will work better and maybe it will bring some change. But it is very interesting to hear the input from you IT guys. I always wondered how this list of phrases got started, the biggest road blocks I have heard to be associated with getting people to switch to Apple or getting their first computer and have it be an Apple. This is branded in there heads. Microsoft is for serious business work- I need to look professional, Macs are for artists to play on, Macs are not serious business computers, can't e-mail to Microsoft and everybody in business uses Microsoft, the different computers will not work together, everybody knows their is no software for the Mac. It's all bunk, but dragged in like the dirty coal on the miners clothes and just as deadly to have a reliance on one operating system as to breath the dust, it also seems that a few folks do not like M$$. So the individuals buy windoz, unless you can unwrap what has been wrapped so very tightly by a sources that for the majority are probably working with what the Tech guy wants. He is the guru, so it slides downhill. The very people who could be helping shape the future of the Mac, at one of the best times I have seen Apple in the spotlight and be accepted as a real computer. Sit back and say this is the way it is, this is the way it stays, why change. So your influence of programs extends to your company computers and the people who use them. Yet post to Mac sites without a utterance of I called Apple and said or I wrote Apple and suggested a change. Just a lot of yelling and believing the benevolent Bill will come through with Office 07 I think part of the problem is Microsoft = Job Security for tech. I am to tired to hope every body who knows Bill gets a free copy of the new Office. Just don't whine when it's gone and there is no replacement. Change needs a voice Geoff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
On 24 Dec 2004, at 19:39, G-Books wrote: What are the major differences between Entourage and Outlook Express? I have both but has never used either. I've always used the mail application that comes with netscape for my isp mail. What am I missing? TIA. Pete. Outlook Express implements the POP3 protocol only, as far as mail is concerned - it also implements the NNTP protocol for News. Thus an Outlook Express client can be used with an Exchange server, assuming the Exchange system has got its POP3 service turned on. They generally have, but not necessarily so. Outlook (the full Outlook client on Windows boxes) is an implementation of the client end of Microsoft's MAPI protocol. Exchange server also uses this protocol (it's an application-level protocol, not a network-level protocol) so an Exchange server and an Outlook client talk MAPI to each other. This is a more feature-rich protocol than either POP3 or IMAP4. Thus when used with an Exchange server it is 'better', ie more feature-rich. It also includes POP3 functionality, and if used with just a standard mail server (eg an ISP's mail server) probably uses just that, in which case it's not really any better than any other POP3 client. Entourage can be regarded as an implementation of Outlook (not Outlook Express) on OS X. Tom Burke -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: SimpleSound
SimpleSound is just those beep noises...not much help there for my recording purposes. Merry Christmas to any who believe. -- Kristina Yes, SimpleSound does allow you to manage your Alert Sounds, but if you will open the application and type command N, you can record and save sound bites. Merry Christmas from a fellow believer! Greg -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
At 12:12 PM -0800 12/24/04, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: On Dec 24, 2004, at 4:25 AM, Tim Collier Usually the people who start bashing a high end app suite are the ones who don't have the $$$ to buy itor can't steal it! Are we going to start bashing Photoshop next? I have Internet Explorer and Office. I prefer Safari and AppleWorks. (I also have Photoshop etc, I don't use it much, GraphicConverter is easier to use and does most of what I want. So what do you want to do, compare portfolios, usually people who steal the high end Apps are the ones saying Not Me While we are at it Adobe Acrobat 7 does leave features off the windoz version and screw them I will stay at 6. Addressing the issue of MS no longer supporting Internet Explorerso what! Safari rocks! MS knows that and methinks it's the reason that they aren't moving on with IE. I heard something to the effect that Microsoft is abandoning IE on the Mac because, according to them, Safari is an integral part of OS X and therefore another browser is pointless, unworkable, whatever. In other words it is a feeble attempt to support their contention that IE is an integral part of Windows and that other browsers should go away. Microsoft is for serious business work- I need to look professional, Macs are for artists to play on, Macs are not serious business computers, can't e-mail to Microsoft and everybody in business uses Microsoft, the different computers will not work together, everybody knows their is no software for the Mac. It's the tell a lie long enough and it becomes the truth theory. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Transfer of saved e-mails/recommended e-mail app?
Apple has an excellent technical article on moving data from old to new Macs. At Apple's web page support tab, search for Article ID # 25575 for Mac OS: Moving Files From Your Older Macintosh to a New One; punching in just the five digits will do. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Clarke said: Otherwise, there's got to be some way to export the data from the Powerbook to the iBook first? I found some scripts written by a gentleman name Paul Berkowitz that will perform this export/import for $20. data? If you're talking about email, I think all you need with entourage is dragging the folders to the desktop, which will create a unix mailbox (I think). These will import into Entourage nicely, I'm pretty sure. I don't know what files in OS 9.2 contain the data I need to export. What *is* the data? There are lots of info that you may need, like login and passwords. Make a list of what you can think of, with details of your terms for it, in what app you use the data. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Mail
On Dec 24, 2004, at 3:12 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: Change needs a voice Yeah, but the voice needs to know how to spell follow grammatical conventions to communicate effectively. What you have to say might get more consideration if you took the time to get past the d00d speak TjL a firm believer in the use what works best for you approach to software -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet
Ben Dyer said: This is a known issue with the Wallstreet under Jaguar. To fix this problem: * Restart into MacOS 9 * Put the Wallstreet to sleep * Wake it up again * Restart into Jaguar As I have stated earlier on-list, I have a differing experience in that step 2 and 3 above was unnecessary. However, to be able to boot into OS X, when in OS 9, you have to choose OS X as the startup disk with the associated control panel. During the first boot, when you do this, the machine may (or may not) freeze. On the second boot, this will not happen. Something to do with garbled NVRAM or PRAM Settings I have speculated. I never investigated, but if anyone want to check this, they could run the command: sudo nvram -p password in the terminal and compare the individual settings when the machine doesn't have this display problem, with when the machine do have the problem. In order to do the latter one could direct a strong light source to the display in order to see. This worked for me., for doing restarts into OS 9. I do think if possible it's ok to press the backlight buttons a few times to kick in the backlights if this is possible, as, for me at least, the problem came back at next restart, indicating the settings were the same even if you pressed those buttons. Most often for me, I couldn't get back the backlight, if I didn't press those buttons somewhere around midway thru the boot process, before Aqua. After that did not work. There may be other variations of course. Every time the power is interrupted (i.e. you take the power cord out, while no working battery is present), you will have to repeat the procedure--even if the Wallstreet was turned off at the time you removed the power cord. For me this problem *only* appeared if the wallstreet was in sleep or running when the power was cutoff. It's possible the difference is because my backup battery had a small load and yours didn't have one at all, but I'm not sure. My experience is somewhat different, however, and I thought it worth mentioning. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Transfer of saved e-mails/recommended e-mail app?
Mikael Byström said: data? If you're talking about email, I think all you need with entourage is dragging the folders to the desktop, which will create a unix mailbox (I think). These will import into Entourage nicely, I'm pretty sure. Well, I *meant* Unix mailboxes will import into Mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Is my Wall Street's connection problem fixable?
Gary Goldberg said: Well, it's hard to believe that the line is noisy every time I've visited for the last 6 years If their line is noisy it's probably noisy all the time, so I don't see why it's so hard to believe. Also, it may be noisy to your modem (with your current init string) and not to you. Modems are not humans and hear in a different way with slightly other requirements. Of course, the problem may be something completely different and not worth solving, as you have indicated. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---