Re: troubleshooting G4 15 long distance...

2005-06-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 09/06/05 07:44, Brian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, at 10:39 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 
 The multilingual message is definitely a kernel panic. It is most
 likely a
 hardware problem. Could be the RAM like you mention. What version of
 the OS
 are you running? If you did any update recently, it could also be the
 mouse.
 
 Try removing the extra memory and the mouse and try booting. See what
 happens. If it boots OK a few times, then plug back the mouse and try
 again.
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Thanks Laurent.  It's 10.3.9, I put 10.3.0 in the earlier email.  Still
 have the Newton?
 
 Can anyone who has done an archive and install share what exactly it
 does, and how well it does it? :)

I never did an archive and install. I usually clone my startup partition
on an external disk, then I format and install a brand new version. Then, I
bring back the files in my account, paying attention not to overwrite any
preference files for applications from Apple, because sometimes the format
or the content of those preference files change from a major version to the
next. Archive and install is supposed to leave your previous OS on your
disk. You can have access to it but you can't boot from it anymore. I
suppose it's also a good way to install a clean version of the new OS. You
also have the ability to move your network settings and the user accounts, I
think, in the new system. Usually, that should result in a pretty clean
system, but it is possible that some preference files from the older system
might conflict with what the newer versions of the applications provided by
Apple might expect. It is possible that your kernel panics are caused by a
faulty disk, since you did an archive and install, I assume that you didn't
format your disk before installing the new version. Sometimes, the format
might map out some sectors on the disk that have became bad.

Yes, I still use my Newton. I check on NewtonTalk from time to time but it
doesn't seem like much is happening anymore. It's still the same messages
and questions over and over...

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Re: troubleshooting G4 15 long distance...

2005-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 8, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Brian wrote:

Web archives suggest a archive and install- how well does this  
work in practice, will he lose all?





This works excellently in practice. The only things 'lost' (and then  
not really) are things like 3rd party preference panes, Haxies, etc,  
which only have to be re-installed. All of his user files are kept,  
as well as all of his installed apps.


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Re: troubleshooting G4 15 long distance...

2005-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 9, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Brian wrote:



On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, at 10:39 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:




The multilingual message is definitely a kernel panic. It is most  
likely a
hardware problem. Could be the RAM like you mention. What version  
of the OS
are you running? If you did any update recently, it could also be  
the mouse.


Try removing the extra memory and the mouse and try booting. See what
happens. If it boots OK a few times, then plug back the mouse and  
try again.


-Laurent.



Thanks Laurent.  It's 10.3.9, I put 10.3.0 in the earlier email.   
Still have the Newton?


Can anyone who has done an archive and install share what exactly  
it does, and how well it does it? :)


I have done it dozens of times, upgrading systems. I've only ever had  
this fail twice (both recently for some reason) and in neither case  
did I lose any data. In both of these cases I suspect underlying  
hardware issues: one of the systems was displaying a lot of problems  
before I tried this.


What happens in an AR is that the installer moves the System folder,  
Apple-installed applications, the Library folder and all the unix  
underpinings to a new folder called previous systems.


Then a new system is installed, the existing user database from  
netinfo is added to the system, and voila, new system, same old users.


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Re: Undeliverable mail: puzzing redirects

2005-06-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 07/06/05 02:22, William Webster at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Listen, I wrote these goddam emails on my own iBook. What the hell is
 this all about?
 skinny butt

Somehow, your email client encodes your message in the Windows 1252 format
while the list accepts only the more general ISO-8859 format. Check your
composition settings.

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Re: troubleshooting G4 15 long distance...

2005-06-09 Thread Brian McEwen

At 11:28 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote:


Then a new system is installed, the existing user database from
netinfo is added to the system, and voila, new system, same old users.


And you have to reinstall custom apps?

Thanks,

Brian


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Re: troubleshooting G4 15 long distance...

2005-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 9, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Brian McEwen wrote:


At 11:28 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote:



Then a new system is installed, the existing user database from
netinfo is added to the system, and voila, new system, same old  
users.




And you have to reinstall custom apps?


No, only the apple-installed apps are changed. basically you run the  
installer and you've got the same computer with a fresh system.


Some things may not work since you'll have to install any system  
updates (for example anything that needs 10.2.6 or higher or 10.3.4  
or higher to work) but a couple rounds of System Update fixes that  
right away.


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Optical drive compatibility

2005-06-09 Thread Francesco sciacca
Thanks to Malcolm and Laurent for the replies to my previous G3 processor 
query. I have another one concerning optical drives. I remember a lister 
had an excellent page on the subject of optical drives for powerbooks, but 
I've lost the link.

I have upgraded my Titanium to a SD and I'd like to adapt the original 
Combo drive to the Lombard. Before I go and dismantle it, I thought I'd 
ask (as the Lombard drive is no longer in its best shape and I'd hate to 
taked it apart for nothing).

I remember reading somewhere that that Combo drive would fit anything from 
the mac mini to any powerbook capable of having an optical drive. Anybody 
with first hand experience?

cheers and thanks, gianfranco

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Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Dean

Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips


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Re: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread John McGibney


On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Dean wrote:


Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips


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Oh yeah!

There's been quite a heated discussion over on the TiBook list and  
elsewhere.
The short version is IBM told Apple to get lost we're in the G5 for  
games business,
X-Box, PS2  Nintendo all use versions of the G5 making Apple a small  
buyer.


Intel is willing to work with Apple.

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Re: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Fuller


On Jun 6, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Dean wrote:


Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips


I saw this on Monday. From an end user standpoint, I really don't  
think it's going to be that much of an impact. My interaction with  
the computer is not at the chip level, but at the OS level. From what  
I saw during the Steve-note, that really isn't going to change much.  
The box he ran the demo on looked and ran like a PPC based Mac. As  
long as I get the benefits of OS X, and the machines are relatively  
fast, and stable, I'm all for it. Especially if it means that Apple  
can come up with machines that have better battery life, run cooler,  
and/or run more quietly.


Developers are probably going to have more of a mixed reaction, but  
from the reading that I've been doing, it appears that for many of  
them, this will make porting applications to the Mac platform a lot  
easier. One of the game manufacturers said that much of the work in  
porting from the PC platform has to do with time it takes to convert  
between the endianness of the platforms. A good description of what  
this is can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness .


Short term, I think that this will definitely affect hardware sales  
for PPC based systems that are in the pipeline, but I'm not sure how.  
One side of me says that they will be down because people will be  
waiting for the new Intel based Macs. The other side of me says that  
a lot of people will want one of the last PPC based machines.


Steve Fuller

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Re: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Van Snyder
If IBM did 'push' Apple out, they're added to a list of other notables
including Cray, SGI, etc.  To think, some of us originally thought
that the reason we (Cray) had been pushed out was because they were
struggling to make yield/clockrate on the PowerPC.  Of course, the
death of Apple's minivectors is a bummer for those of us with a
preference towards vectors.  :)

They're going to have to have much better luck with the Cell/etc. to
make everyone happy.  Should be interesting to watch.

Van

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 On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Dean wrote:
 
  Did anyone see this yet?
 
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips
 
 
  --
 
 Oh yeah!
 
 There's been quite a heated discussion over on the TiBook list and
 elsewhere.
 The short version is IBM told Apple to get lost we're in the G5 for
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 X-Box, PS2  Nintendo all use versions of the G5 making Apple a small
 buyer.
 
 Intel is willing to work with Apple.
 
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Pismo/Wallstreet question

2005-06-09 Thread Debra Platt
Does anyone know if it would work to put a 6 gig hard drive that was in 
a Pismo with OS 10.3 and 9 into a Wallstreet 233mhz./ 512 cache/ 192 
ram, or what would have to be done to it, or if it would be just 
unbearably slow. It would be used for web surfing, Word, and probably 
some IM and email. Right now the Wallstreet runs 9.2.


Also,  I'm about to tackle replacing the hard drive in the Pismo and 
copied the drive using Carbon Copy Cloner. Do I just drag what it 
copied onto the new drive once it is installed in the machine?


Thanks again for all the help and info in the past.


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Re: Pismo/Wallstreet question

2005-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 9, 2005, at 2:28 PM, Debra Platt wrote:

Does anyone know if it would work to put a 6 gig hard drive that  
was in a Pismo with OS 10.3 and 9 into a Wallstreet 233mhz./ 512  
cache/ 192 ram, or what would have to be done to it, or if it would  
be just unbearably slow. It would be used for web surfing, Word,  
and probably some IM and email. Right now the Wallstreet runs 9.2.


You would have to install XPostFacto on the WS before Panther would  
work.




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and copied the drive using Carbon Copy Cloner. Do I just drag what  
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Re: Pismo/Wallstreet question

2005-06-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 09/06/05 17:28, Debra Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip!]
 Also,  I'm about to tackle replacing the hard drive in the Pismo and
 copied the drive using Carbon Copy Cloner. Do I just drag what it
 copied onto the new drive once it is installed in the machine?

No. With OS X, there are many invisible files and folders plus permissions
problems so you just can't copy it from the Finder. You need to use
something like Carbon Copy Cloner again.

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Re: troubleshooting G4 15 long distance...

2005-06-09 Thread Harry Corsover

On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:44 AM, Brian wrote:



Can anyone who has done an archive and install share what exactly  
it does, and how well it does it? :)





It's pretty straightforward, installing a fresh System, and creating  
a folder called Previous System (numbered if you already have one  
of those). All user folders/settings are supposedly kept, and the  
only things you'll need to deal with are programs that put some  
preference files or application support files in the System folder  
(rather than in your Home folder's Library).


Some applications will have to be installed from the original disks,  
and sometimes you can copy over the relevant files from a backup or  
from the Previous System folder.


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Re: Subject: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Claire Hart

Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips



I watched the keynote tonight, and it was reassuring to do so.  Just 
thought I'd pass that along to those who are panicking at this news...


Claire


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Tiger version

2005-06-09 Thread Claire Hart
Is Apple still selling 10.4?  I am getting anxious to try Tiger, but I 
have this policy about always waiting until at least the .1 comes out 
before jumping in.  Any news/rumors about 10.4.1?  I heard QuickTime 7 
was buggy.  Is that because of QT or Tiger?


Waiting,
Claire


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Re: Tiger version

2005-06-09 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

At 9:31 PM -0500 6/9/05, Claire Hart wrote:
Is Apple still selling 10.4?  I am getting anxious to try Tiger, but 
I have this policy about always waiting until at least the .1 comes 
out before jumping in.  Any news/rumors about 10.4.1?  I heard 
QuickTime 7 was buggy.  Is that because of QT or Tiger?


10.4.1 was released about two weeks after 10.4 in order to fix a lot 
of bugs in the latter.

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Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is 
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CD not recognized/mounted after 10.4

2005-06-09 Thread Rad Craig
I upgraded my Pismo w/ Tiger and also also did a fresh install on a  
Lombard (via putting hd in my Pismo). After installtion, I tried to  
put a CD in the drive to install some other software and it won't  
recognize that there is a CD in the drive or mount the drive. Same  
thing happens on both the Pismo and Lombard.


If I put the Tiger DVD in the drive and reboot, it will recognize  
that DVD when it first boots, but if I take it out, put a different  
CD in the drive, it won't recognize the CD. I can take the CD out,  
put the Tiger DVD back in the drive and it will no longer recognize it.


I tried resetting the NVRAM, no luck.  I have tried swapping CD/DVD  
drives between the two laptops.  The one in my Pismo is just a normal  
CD/DVD-ROM, the one in the Lombard is a 2x DVD, according to the  
writing on the bottom.  Neither one is a burner.  Seems strange to me  
that the Lombard would appear to have a faster DVD-ROM in it than the  
Pismo?


The drive in the Lombard makes loud crunching, clunking sounds when I  
insert a CD.  Neither will ever mount or recognize in any way that  
there is a CD in the drive.  I have to push the manual eject button  
to get the CD out and it is spinning at full speed when it ejects.


I have tried different CDs and that doesn't seem to make a  
difference.  This only happened when I upgraded to Tiger (on the  
Pismo), it worked fine on all of the 10.3.x versions.


I have all the latest software updates and there aren't any firmware  
updates for either laptop.  I even tried PatchBurn, but it won't work  
if you don't have a burner.


Any ideas?  Its getting really frustrating because I can't install  
any of my other software, which makes the laptop pretty much  
worthless other than email and browsing, which is not the primary  
purpose for these machines.



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