Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Byström
Zoltan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Everytime 
I pop out the CD/DVD drive, believe it or not, OS X Panther CRASHES!

Do you have disc in at the time? If you do, this could be the reason.


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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:08 PM -0700 7/17/04, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
Hello all,
Just noticed something rather odd.  I've got the Pismo, which is 
supposed to have the swappable expansion bays.  I tried the Apple 
Tech section on their site, but found no matches regarding this. 
Everytime I pop out the CD/DVD drive, believe it or not, OS X 
Panther CRASHES!  Any ideas? It's getting old. . .sometimes I'm in 
the need for my other battery, or my zip drive module, or vise 
versa.  I pop it out, and BAM. . .all over again.  Any help would 
be. . .er. . .helpful.

Well for starts make sure no disk is in the drive.
Otherwise try sleeping the computer then swapping disks.  AFAIK it 
shouldn't require this but...
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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Jul 18, 2004, at 3:59 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Zoltan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Everytime
I pop out the CD/DVD drive, believe it or not, OS X Panther CRASHES!
Do you have disc in at the time? If you do, this could be the reason.

C'mon folks. . .if there was a CD or DVD in the drive, I would'a 
figured that one out.  Sheese!  For everyone who wants to HELP in this 
situation and not state the obvious, the drive has nothing in it, in 
fact it's usually when I forget it's even there. . .I'm out in the 
field, all of a sudden, I get the message telling me my battery is 
about to die.  Normally, I'd just pop out the DVD drive and pop in the 
other battery.  But now, for some reason. . .BOOM. . .crash as soon as 
the drive is ejected.  Maybe there's a bug in 10.3.4.  Didn't do this 
in 10.3.3.  Ideas?

Z
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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
Not to make any comment on your abilities or knowledge, but I've see 
many times when the solution was this obvious. Please don't bite the 
hand that tries to help...

Turtle-Bear
On Jul 18, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
C'mon folks. . .if there was a CD or DVD in the drive, I would'a 
figured that one out.  Sheese!  For everyone who wants to HELP in this 
situation and not state the obvious, the drive has nothing in it, in 
fact it's usually when I forget it's even there. . .I'm out in the 
field, all of a sudden, I get the message telling me my battery is 
about to die.  Normally, I'd just pop out the DVD drive and pop in the 
other battery.  But now, for some reason. . .BOOM. . .crash as soon as 
the drive is ejected.  Maybe there's a bug in 10.3.4.  Didn't do this 
in 10.3.3.  Ideas?

Z
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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Byström
Zoltan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

if there was a CD or DVD in the drive, I would'a 
figured that one out.  Sheese
You didn't state that there obviously isn't a disc in there so
obviously we must assume you may not know there can't be a disc in there,
especially as you get a crash rather than a dialog informing you of that.

As most of us don't know you, state the full circumstances including the
bloody obvious and remember even experts sometimes forget the simplest
solutions. 

Also, you said any help ... :)

Here's another spin. What if the underlying OS thinks there's a disc
still in there?
Have you checked the system log? If so, why didn't you give us that info
or lack thereof?



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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Jul 18, 2004, at 1:19 PM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Zoltan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
if there was a CD or DVD in the drive, I would'a
figured that one out.  Sheese
You didn't state that there obviously isn't a disc in there so
obviously we must assume you may not know there can't be a disc in 
there,
especially as you get a crash rather than a dialog informing you of 
that.

As most of us don't know you, state the full circumstances including 
the
bloody obvious and remember even experts sometimes forget the simplest
solutions.

Also, you said any help ... :)
Here's another spin. What if the underlying OS thinks there's a disc
still in there?
Have you checked the system log? If so, why didn't you give us that 
info
or lack thereof?


The original thread stated all the obvious.  If nobody knows yet as 
to what is causing this problem, then just say so.  There's no need to 
waste server space in this list to criticize each other.  My problem 
happens EVERY time I remove the CD/DVD drive, with or without a disc. . 
.as I stated in the original thread.  I also stated that I'm aware that 
there can't be a disk in the drive. . .but if there is, all you should 
be prompted with is a warning window that says the item was not ejected 
properly, etc.  The computer is not supposed to crash.  What does a 
crash in OS X look like?  The entire screen goes black, and there's a 
window in the middle saying rather demanding, YOU MUST RESTART YOUR 
COMPUTER, PLEASE HOLD DOWN POWER BUTTON FOR A FEW MINUTES.  This 
message is listed in the window several times. . .in different 
languages.

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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Bill Howard
On 7/18/04 2:01 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The original thread stated all the obvious.  If nobody knows yet as
 to what is causing this problem, then just say so.  There's no need to
 waste server space in this list to criticize each other.  My problem
 happens EVERY time I remove the CD/DVD drive, with or without a disc. .
 .as I stated in the original thread.  I also stated that I'm aware that
 there can't be a disk in the drive. . .but if there is, all you should
 be prompted with is a warning window that says the item was not ejected
 properly, etc.  The computer is not supposed to crash.  What does a
 crash in OS X look like?  The entire screen goes black, and there's a
 window in the middle saying rather demanding, YOU MUST RESTART YOUR
 COMPUTER, PLEASE HOLD DOWN POWER BUTTON FOR A FEW MINUTES.  This
 message is listed in the window several times. . .in different
 languages.


 That is a Kernel Panic.


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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Byström
Zoltan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The original thread stated all the obvious. 

Did the original thread supply your OS crash log? That's pretty obvious
if you ask me.


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Re: Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-18 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
Well, it sure does look like the obvious - your hardware (CD/DVD drive) 
is giving 10.3.4 conniptions. As in - something is not compatible - 
possibly a software influenced incompatibility.

I'm also a Pismo owner and for you (even though you have been a bad 
boy), I will pop out my CD/DVD drive and test

-- I've quit all apps including Classic, then popped the drive - oh, 
oh, a kernel panic  restart.
-- Logged into my clean user account (the one without all the crap 
installed) and no kernel panic on CD/DVD drive removal.
-- OK --- logged out then logged back into my usual account. Popped 
drive and no kernel panic.
-- Big ???

If you are getting the kernel panic EVERY time, as you say, then create 
a new user and see what happens in that account.

Turtle-Bear
On Jul 18, 2004, at 3:01 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
The original thread stated all the obvious.  If nobody knows yet as 
to what is causing this problem, then just say so.  There's no need to 
waste server space in this list to criticize each other.  My problem 
happens EVERY time I remove the CD/DVD drive, with or without a disc. 
. .as I stated in the original thread.  I also stated that I'm aware 
that there can't be a disk in the drive. . .but if there is, all you 
should be prompted with is a warning window that says the item was not 
ejected properly, etc.  The computer is not supposed to crash.  What 
does a crash in OS X look like?  The entire screen goes black, and 
there's a window in the middle saying rather demanding, YOU MUST 
RESTART YOUR COMPUTER, PLEASE HOLD DOWN POWER BUTTON FOR A FEW 
MINUTES.  This message is listed in the window several times. . .in 
different languages.

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Anybody's PB's crashing when removing CD/DVD drive?

2004-07-17 Thread Zoltan Batiz
Hello all,
Just noticed something rather odd.  I've got the Pismo, which is 
supposed to have the swappable expansion bays.  I tried the Apple Tech 
section on their site, but found no matches regarding this.  Everytime 
I pop out the CD/DVD drive, believe it or not, OS X Panther CRASHES!  
Any ideas? It's getting old. . .sometimes I'm in the need for my other 
battery, or my zip drive module, or vise versa.  I pop it out, and BAM. 
. .all over again.  Any help would be. . .er. . .helpful.

Z
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