Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Dean

Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips


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Re: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread John McGibney


On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Dean wrote:


Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips


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Oh yeah!

There's been quite a heated discussion over on the TiBook list and  
elsewhere.
The short version is IBM told Apple to get lost we're in the G5 for  
games business,
X-Box, PS2  Nintendo all use versions of the G5 making Apple a small  
buyer.


Intel is willing to work with Apple.

John

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Re: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Fuller


On Jun 6, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Dean wrote:


Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips


I saw this on Monday. From an end user standpoint, I really don't  
think it's going to be that much of an impact. My interaction with  
the computer is not at the chip level, but at the OS level. From what  
I saw during the Steve-note, that really isn't going to change much.  
The box he ran the demo on looked and ran like a PPC based Mac. As  
long as I get the benefits of OS X, and the machines are relatively  
fast, and stable, I'm all for it. Especially if it means that Apple  
can come up with machines that have better battery life, run cooler,  
and/or run more quietly.


Developers are probably going to have more of a mixed reaction, but  
from the reading that I've been doing, it appears that for many of  
them, this will make porting applications to the Mac platform a lot  
easier. One of the game manufacturers said that much of the work in  
porting from the PC platform has to do with time it takes to convert  
between the endianness of the platforms. A good description of what  
this is can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness .


Short term, I think that this will definitely affect hardware sales  
for PPC based systems that are in the pipeline, but I'm not sure how.  
One side of me says that they will be down because people will be  
waiting for the new Intel based Macs. The other side of me says that  
a lot of people will want one of the last PPC based machines.


Steve Fuller

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Re: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Van Snyder
If IBM did 'push' Apple out, they're added to a list of other notables
including Cray, SGI, etc.  To think, some of us originally thought
that the reason we (Cray) had been pushed out was because they were
struggling to make yield/clockrate on the PowerPC.  Of course, the
death of Apple's minivectors is a bummer for those of us with a
preference towards vectors.  :)

They're going to have to have much better luck with the Cell/etc. to
make everyone happy.  Should be interesting to watch.

Van

On 6/9/05, John McGibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Dean wrote:
 
  Did anyone see this yet?
 
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips
 
 
  --
 
 Oh yeah!
 
 There's been quite a heated discussion over on the TiBook list and
 elsewhere.
 The short version is IBM told Apple to get lost we're in the G5 for
 games business,
 X-Box, PS2  Nintendo all use versions of the G5 making Apple a small
 buyer.
 
 Intel is willing to work with Apple.
 
 John
 
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Re: Subject: Apple to switch to Intel chips

2005-06-09 Thread Claire Hart

Did anyone see this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_hi_te/apple_chips



I watched the keynote tonight, and it was reassuring to do so.  Just 
thought I'd pass that along to those who are panicking at this news...


Claire


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