Re: Dance through the OS Xs

2005-01-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/7/05 1:59 AM, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not being an expert, I will paraphrase others:
 
 Classic had many versions, each one better than the
 previous. 
 OSX has very startling differences, effectively an
 entirely new OS in 10.1, 10.2, 10.3.

I'll certainly agree that Classic got better through the years. I remember
the first time I sat down at a Fat Mac. I said, Cool, my parents will love
this. Then I went back to my DOS machine where I stayed until the advent of
System 6. Then came System 7 - now that classifies as a different OS! From
7 through 9 it was mostly iterative improvements. Obviously OS X was as big
(if not bigger) break than that between System 6 and 7. But each version of
OS X has been iterative improvements.

For me the difference between a break and simple iterative improvement is
the necessity of unlearning old behaviors. I don't see that any unlearning
has been required since the release of 10.1 - not like there was between 9
and 10 or 6 and 7.

david




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Re: Dance through the OS Xs

2005-01-07 Thread Mikael Byström
George Mogiljansky said:

Not being an expert, I will paraphrase others:
That was already obvious, thank you.

Classic had many versions, each one better than the
previous. 
OSX has very startling differences, effectively an
entirely new OS in 10.1, 10.2, 10.3.


Yes? How was  this connected to your earlier data and reasoning? If you
want to promote your own view on OS X as an example for others, wouldn't
be good if you gave examples that was coherent and your conclusions based
on the data you present.
I welcome criticism of OS X, especially the interface, but constructed
examples proving nothing are a bit unnecessary.


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Dance through the OS Xs

2005-01-06 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
I got my PowerBook G3 400 (Pismo) back in August 2000. It was running 
9.0.2 then. I have since done the wonderful dance through the OS Xs: 
10.0/10.1 (made me cry because I am not a techy at all, NOT ready for 
prime time), 10.2 Jaguar (at last a real stable, easy to use OS X!!!) 
and then 10.3 Panther (my love only grows - it runs even faster than 
Jaguar did!). I have the Tiger disk in the other room (Tiger-prerelease 
is installed onto our dual G4 450 Power Mac - we are small developers) 
and I may install it on the Pismo after I get back from Macworld Expo 
San Fran. OR (more likely) I will FINALLY upgrade my PowerBook. After 4 
and a half years, I think I deserve a new computer that can run the 
newest OS with lightening speed (Halo, here I come...).

I have a 8600 in the back room in case I want to run OS 8.1, 8.6 or 9.1 
or my old but very good SCSI HP scanner. I have a PB 540 in the kitchen 
running 7.5.5 nicely as my recipe book.

We all cohabitate quite nicely.
Turtle-Bear
On Jan 6, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Dean wrote:
As far as OS 9 being dead I guess you will have to stick me in the 
ground with it because
after spending a BIG chunk of change on audio hardware that works just 
great under
the older OS's, it will be a long long time before I spend another Big 
chunk of change
to upgrade.

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Re: Dance through the OS Xs

2005-01-06 Thread George Mogiljansky
Oh, yes, Halo (whazzat?) reminds me of Haloscan, that
ubiquitous blogger Comments box SW. Opening that box
crashes Firefox (!) on the 10.3.7-armed WS Series II
with 512 MB Ram  ADSL. 

But no crashes on an ancient, if slightly wheezing,
9500 G3-upgraded 9.1-using 384 Ram-loaded running
Wamcom (a browser not updated since 2002).

Fight planned obsolescence! Resist beta-OSs!

Best
George

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wrote:

I think I deserve a new computer
 that can run the 
 newest OS with lightening speed (Halo, here I
 come...).





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Re: Dance through the OS Xs

2005-01-06 Thread Mikael Byström
George Mogiljansky said:

Oh, yes, Halo (whazzat?) reminds me of Haloscan, that
ubiquitous blogger Comments box SW. Opening that box
crashes Firefox (!) on the 10.3.7-armed WS Series II
with 512 MB Ram  ADSL. 

But no crashes on an ancient, if slightly wheezing,
9500 G3-upgraded 9.1-using 384 Ram-loaded running
Wamcom (a browser not updated since 2002).

And this is you blame on the OS, not the different codebases and apps in
question, just how?


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Re: Dance through the OS Xs

2005-01-06 Thread George Mogiljansky
Not being an expert, I will paraphrase others:

Classic had many versions, each one better than the
previous. 
OSX has very startling differences, effectively an
entirely new OS in 10.1, 10.2, 10.3.

Best
George

--- Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 George Mogiljansky said:
 
 Oh, yes, Halo (whazzat?) reminds me of Haloscan,
 that
 ubiquitous blogger Comments box SW. Opening that
 box
 crashes Firefox (!) on the 10.3.7-armed WS Series
 II
 with 512 MB Ram  ADSL. 
 
 But no crashes on an ancient, if slightly wheezing,
 9500 G3-upgraded 9.1-using 384 Ram-loaded running
 Wamcom (a browser not updated since 2002).
 
 And this is you blame on the OS, not the different
 codebases and apps in
 question, just how?
- 


=
George (Canada)



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