Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident (inverter board)

[dreemkill]

speaking of which, i got my ibook back today! sent it to apple on 
friday, got it back today. (my fault for sending over the weekend..would 
have had it sooner!)
for those who dont remember, the display on my ibook 500 ("late 2001") 
was fading off/on, etc...)
they replaced the inverter board - as i had expected, but also replaced 
the motherboard as well..it looks as if they replaced the palm rest and 
mouse, but thats not listed on the repair sheet.
only thing i wish they'd have donewas replace the stupid power 
adapter. i accidentally stepped on it awhile ago, and bent it out of 
shape a bit...so it doesnt slide in smoothly or anything :(

Justin

On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 09:38 PM, Jeremy Derr wrote:

> On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 08:38 PM, Susan Casey Bennett wrote:
>
>> Inverter, hmmm? Is this something I can replace myself? Where is it?
>> Can I look inside at it and like check if it's wet or anything? If I
>> call apple I think they'll send me to my local certified apple
>> mangler.
>
> TiBooks are mail-in service... Apple sends you a box by Airborn, and
> you mail it directly to them.


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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Jeremy Derr]

On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 08:38 PM, Susan Casey Bennett wrote:

> Inverter, hmmm? Is this something I can replace myself? Where is it?
> Can I look inside at it and like check if it's wet or anything? If I
> call apple I think they'll send me to my local certified apple
> mangler.

TiBooks are mail-in service... Apple sends you a box by Airborn, and 
you mail it directly to them.


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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Shayne Croy]

On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 08:59  PM, Susan Casey Bennett wrote:
>
> A question: what's a "wallstreet"?
>
> That, kind lady, is an older G3 Powerbook... Just before the Lombard 
> and Pismo, respectively.
   Shayne Croy
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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Susan Casey Bennett]

This is great.  I should have joined this list months ago (like, 
before I trashed my Ti book!?)

A question: what's a "wallstreet"?

Dustin, I'll to try booting from the OS9 disk (I tried to boot from 
the Norton Disk and it wouldn't take it. I have had ongoing trouble 
with the CD drive on this, even before this problem.) and the pram. 
Will try that tomorrow, I've retired the laptop for the night (after 
copying all files onto my G4 just in case).

Otherwise, sounds like a call to apple will be the way to go. I'm 
actually glad to hear that it can be sent in to them, I do not want 
to let these local guys get their fingers into this.

Norm, I have cracks in my case also... maybe that could be fixed too, 
and that cd drive problem... maybe I'll end up better off in the end 
(and poorer :-)! While on the subject of cracks, I was sure 
disappointed to find them especially with this being a "titanium" and 
portable device.

I have not figured out how to search the archives of the list yet, so 
maybe this has also been covered already, but I have gone through TWO 
power cords in the year and a half that I have had my laptop. Both 
times the cord split and frayed right at the plug connection to the 
laptop. Again, so much for durable and/or portable. The first time I 
replaced under warranty, the second time (now) I have rigged up a 
nice little ugly fix with electric tape.

I'm not under warranty, I debated about the apple care, it was so 
expensive I decided not to. Second thoughts now...

However, despite the cracks and cord and cd drive (and the inability 
to handle being doused) I still sing the praises of this little 
machine.

Susan

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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

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>  ><< I called Apple and paid the $350.00 plus
>>It will be a lot more than $350 if she sent it in to Apple! If you want
>>to think about Apple support options you need to ask yourself 2
>>questions:
>>1) Do you have Applecare?
>>2) Are you still within the warranty period?
>>If none of the above it'll cost you quite a bit. It sounds more like a
>>software problem though. Still, try booting to OS 9 and wait a few days
>>to see if anyone else comes up with something. If not, then try calling
>>Apple.
>>
>>-Dustin
>
>Total cost out of my pocket was a flat $350.00 plus $15.00. I had no
>Applecare and it was out of warranty.
>Norm Kamp

I just remembered, the lower case had a crack and they replaced that. 
It was very positive experience, except I was out the $365.00. The 
only catch is you have to agree to the $350.00 Plus handling up front.
Norm Kamp

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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Norm Kamp]

><< I called Apple and paid the $350.00 plus
>It will be a lot more than $350 if she sent it in to Apple! If you want
>to think about Apple support options you need to ask yourself 2
>questions:
>1) Do you have Applecare?
>2) Are you still within the warranty period?
>If none of the above it'll cost you quite a bit. It sounds more like a
>software problem though. Still, try booting to OS 9 and wait a few days
>to see if anyone else comes up with something. If not, then try calling
>Apple.
>
>-Dustin

Total cost out of my pocket was a flat $350.00 plus $15.00. I had no 
Applecare and it was out of warranty.
Norm Kamp

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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Dustin]

<< Still on 9.2.2
If you have the CD try to boot to it anyway...also try zapping PRAM.
Maybe it's just a setting that got stuck.
Check out this Apple tech doc:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449

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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Dustin]

<< I called Apple and paid the $350.00 plus
It will be a lot more than $350 if she sent it in to Apple! If you want
to think about Apple support options you need to ask yourself 2
questions:
1) Do you have Applecare?
2) Are you still within the warranty period?
If none of the above it'll cost you quite a bit. It sounds more like a
software problem though. Still, try booting to OS 9 and wait a few days
to see if anyone else comes up with something. If not, then try calling
Apple.

-Dustin



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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Susan Casey Bennett]

At 7:18 PM -0500 11/30/02, Dustin wrote:
>What OS are you running? Is it Jag? I have had brightness problems in
>10.2. Try booting to an OS 9 CD if you have one.

Still on 9.2.2

At 6:47 PM -0600 11/30/02, John Haumann wrote:
>You didn't say whether you tried to increase screen brightness from the
keyboard -- I believe it's the F2 key.

Yes, adjusted using both keyboard, and through monitors control 
panel. Seems to make no discernable difference (screen is 
vrry dark)

At 6:17 PM -0600 11/30/02, Gary D. Adams wrote:
>Susan:
>
>My son spilled root beer on his ibook and the same thing 
>happened. I would suggest you dry it out well and call Apple for 
>Applecare service. It's the inverter. They replaced my son's You 
>don't need to tell them what happened.

Inverter, hmmm? Is this something I can replace myself? Where is it? 
Can I look inside at it and like check if it's wet or anything? If I 
call apple I think they'll send me to my local certified apple 
mangler.

At 6:17 PM -0600 11/30/02, Gary D. Adams wrote:
>My son spilled root beer on his ibook
At 7:18 PM -0500 11/30/02, Dustin wrote:
>You aren't the first person on this list to spill beer on their
>Powerbook...

Oh but I still feel s stupid! But sounds like it might be 
something it can recover from? It's been my best (only? ;-) friend, I 
can't believe I did this to it

Thanks guys...

Still crying,

Susan






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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[amariafl]

>
>
>I am kicking myself so much, I absolutely love this laptop and I
>can't believe I have done this. Can any of you help me with any ideas
>of how to remedy this problem?
>
>Thanks and sorry so long...
>
>Susan


I have a Wallstreet PDQ and about 6 months ago I spilled about a 
teaspoon of water on the keyboard and it put everything to sleep. 
After doing probably everything you mentioned with no help. I called 
Apple and paid the $350.00 plus
and sent it to them. They not only repaired the keyboard, but 
replaced the screen and the hinges(a Wallstreet problem). Maybe you 
should call them.
Norm Kamp

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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[John Haumann]

On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 06:04 PM, Susan Casey Bennett wrote:

> I thought it might be as simple as "brightness", and but it is turned
> all the way up. Incidentally, turning the brightness all the way down
> then all the way back up makes no discernable difference to the
> screen. So maybe it is a brightness thing, and it is just stuck at
> the lowest...?
>

You didn't say whether you tried to increase screen brightness from the 
keyboard -- I believe it's the F2 key.

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Re: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Dustin]

You aren't the first person on this list to spill beer on their
Powerbook...

<< I thought it might be as simple as "brightness", and but it is turned

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Susan
Casey Bennett
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:04 PM
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Subject: G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

Hi,

This is my first post to this list. I had used low end mac's Quadra 
list while refurbishing my old Quadra to give to a friend and the 
folks there were so helpful. I am hoping to have similar luck here.

You see, I've done something absolutely awful to my dear Ti 
Powerbook! Feel free to tell me what an idiot I am... believe me, 
that's what I am saying to myself!! You see I accidentally spilled 
beer(!) on the surface of the laptop. It was a bottle less than half 
full and it tipped onto the laptop. The opening landed right about 
between the space bar and the track pad. The second it tipped I 
grabbed it, so it only had a half a second to spill. And it wasn't 
full. So it's not like it poured in. I immediately soaked up what was 
there with paper towels (cussing profusely...) The liquid was mostly 
confined to this area of the lower keyboard. I removed the keyboard 
pad, and very carefully soaked up any droplets that I saw. Again, 
there wasn't a whole lot, it wasn't soaked. Mostly just at the ridge 
where the keyboard sits.

I opened the battery area and wiped in there and wiped the battery.

I removed the back and there was a small amount on the back metel 
cover. I looked inside and used a non static dry cloth to very 
carefull soak up anything I could see, but there wasn't much. There 
was one droplet on the large chip in the center that I think said 
"lucent" (is that the processor?) But not much to get from the back.

I put it all back together, and booted it up. It did boot up, but the 
screen was all dark. I could barely make out the desktop underneath. 
I let it run for a short while hoping the heat generated might help 
evaporate anything. No change, restarted, no change. So I shut down 
and packed it up and left it propped up with one corner down (the cd 
corner) hoping if there is anything in there it could flow down and 
out.

I left it like that overnight. Went to bed and prayed for my mac.

Today, started up, and same thing. Everything seems to work, but the 
screen is very dark. I can barely see the desktop, but I can see 
enough to see that it seems "normal" in there. I opened the monitors 
control panel and tried to adjust the monitor to overcompensate for 
the darkness. Not able to make any significant difference.

I thought it might be as simple as "brightness", and but it is turned 
all the way up. Incidentally, turning the brightness all the way down 
then all the way back up makes no discernable difference to the 
screen. So maybe it is a brightness thing, and it is just stuck at 
the lowest...?

I've left it running so it can warm up and evaporate or whatever. I 
linked to it via ethernet, and everything appears to be there, and 
normal when linked remotely. I ran norton on it and it was fine.

So, the good news is that it seems to be "ok" except for the monitor 
display (which of course is a pretty crucial feature!)

There is only one local mac service place here and I don't have alot 
of faith in them... would rather try to troubleshoot this myself if I 
can.

I am kicking myself so much, I absolutely love this laptop and I 
can't believe I have done this. Can any of you help me with any ideas 
of how to remedy this problem?

Thanks and sorry so long...

Susan




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G4 Ti Powerbook accident :-(

[Susan Casey Bennett]

Hi,

This is my first post to this list. I had used low end mac's Quadra 
list while refurbishing my old Quadra to give to a friend and the 
folks there were so helpful. I am hoping to have similar luck here.

You see, I've done something absolutely awful to my dear Ti 
Powerbook! Feel free to tell me what an idiot I am... believe me, 
that's what I am saying to myself!! You see I accidentally spilled 
beer(!) on the surface of the laptop. It was a bottle less than half 
full and it tipped onto the laptop. The opening landed right about 
between the space bar and the track pad. The second it tipped I 
grabbed it, so it only had a half a second to spill. And it wasn't 
full. So it's not like it poured in. I immediately soaked up what was 
there with paper towels (cussing profusely...) The liquid was mostly 
confined to this area of the lower keyboard. I removed the keyboard 
pad, and very carefully soaked up any droplets that I saw. Again, 
there wasn't a whole lot, it wasn't soaked. Mostly just at the ridge 
where the keyboard sits.

I opened the battery area and wiped in there and wiped the battery.

I removed the back and there was a small amount on the back metel 
cover. I looked inside and used a non static dry cloth to very 
carefull soak up anything I could see, but there wasn't much. There 
was one droplet on the large chip in the center that I think said 
"lucent" (is that the processor?) But not much to get from the back.

I put it all back together, and booted it up. It did boot up, but the 
screen was all dark. I could barely make out the desktop underneath. 
I let it run for a short while hoping the heat generated might help 
evaporate anything. No change, restarted, no change. So I shut down 
and packed it up and left it propped up with one corner down (the cd 
corner) hoping if there is anything in there it could flow down and 
out.

I left it like that overnight. Went to bed and prayed for my mac.

Today, started up, and same thing. Everything seems to work, but the 
screen is very dark. I can barely see the desktop, but I can see 
enough to see that it seems "normal" in there. I opened the monitors 
control panel and tried to adjust the monitor to overcompensate for 
the darkness. Not able to make any significant difference.

I thought it might be as simple as "brightness", and but it is turned 
all the way up. Incidentally, turning the brightness all the way down 
then all the way back up makes no discernable difference to the 
screen. So maybe it is a brightness thing, and it is just stuck at 
the lowest...?

I've left it running so it can warm up and evaporate or whatever. I 
linked to it via ethernet, and everything appears to be there, and 
normal when linked remotely. I ran norton on it and it was fine.

So, the good news is that it seems to be "ok" except for the monitor 
display (which of course is a pretty crucial feature!)

There is only one local mac service place here and I don't have alot 
of faith in them... would rather try to troubleshoot this myself if I 
can.

I am kicking myself so much, I absolutely love this laptop and I 
can't believe I have done this. Can any of you help me with any ideas 
of how to remedy this problem?

Thanks and sorry so long...

Susan




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