How to force shut down? (was: HD in Lombard running hot)

2004-05-27 Thread gf sciacca
I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will
start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and
disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird
activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order
to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable
system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI
either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to
shut down from it.

I just summarise the background events for those who were following the
thread and gave suggestions and anybody who could recognise some
pathology:
- Hitachi Travelstar 40GNX 40GB in a Lombard makes continuous seek-click
noise when booted in the freshly installed OS X Panther partition. Normal
behaviour when booted in the OS 9 partition. Disc usage is less than 10%
- no fragmentation issues, specially in the OS X partition (just clean
installed). Additional software was installed. I replicated the same setup
that was previously running under Jaguar.
- tried to wipe the OS X partition and installed Jaguar on it. Normal
behaviour, no clicking noise, HD runs cool and fine.
- tried to install Panther in the OS 9 partition (no additional software
installations): normal HD behaviour, runs cool, no noise
- cloned the original Panther setup back onto the wiped OS X partition:
clicking noise is back
- wiped the OS partition again (disk utility) in order to re-install
freashly Panther hoping I would get through fine. Freeze, force restart:
HD does not mount and is quite hot. Don't know how to shut downn.

The reason why I tried out all of the above is that I wanted to find out
(or rule out) that the problem would come from some weird combination of
software and/or OS settings, which I'm sort of convinced it is the case.
By the way, the HD is still covered by warranty, I just did not want to
return the HD in the case the problem were somehow software/OS related.

thanks for any help! cheers, gianfranco

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Re: How to force shut down? (was: HD in Lombard running hot)

2004-05-27 Thread Eugene Lee
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 03:52:18AM +0200, gf sciacca wrote:
: 
: I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will
: start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and
: disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird
: activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order
: to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable
: system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI
: either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to
: shut down from it.
: 
: I just summarise the background events for those who were following the
: thread and gave suggestions and anybody who could recognise some
: pathology:
: - Hitachi Travelstar 40GNX 40GB in a Lombard makes continuous seek-click
: noise when booted in the freshly installed OS X Panther partition. Normal
: behaviour when booted in the OS 9 partition. Disc usage is less than 10%

If your hard drive is continually making clicking sounds whiled booted
into OS X, even though it doesn't do so in OS 9, it should be replaced
ASAP, IMO.  It's under warranty, so get yourself a new drive and a new
lease on hard drive life.

: - tried to wipe the OS X partition and installed Jaguar on it. Normal
: behaviour, no clicking noise, HD runs cool and fine.
: - tried to install Panther in the OS 9 partition (no additional software
: installations): normal HD behaviour, runs cool, no noise
: - cloned the original Panther setup back onto the wiped OS X partition:
: clicking noise is back

If you are not ready to replace the hard drive, I would reformat the
drive, install OS 9, install Panther, and then copy only *your* stuff
from your old Panther backup (avoid cloning).


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