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On 7/26/02 5:43 PM, Jon Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your question still hasn't been answered... I have the exact same question. Can I convert my wife's account under mine, or mine under hers? How does one combine multiple accounts? This is what I need to do, and if I can't, I won't pay a cent. I'm sorry you had to pay and not get the question answered... -- Jon Glass Krakow, Poland I received this from Michelle: Q: How do I convert an existing iTools or .Mac trial account into an email-only .Mac account? With a full .Mac membership, you can purchase up to ten email-only accounts (with 5MB of storage each). You can then assign this email-only account to an existing iTools or .Mac trial account, or create a brand new address. To purchase additional email-only accounts, go to http://www.mac.com and click Account in the .Mac menu bar. On the Account page, click the Buy Now button next to the available upgrade options. Select the number of additional email-only accounts you'd like to purchase, then click the Upgrade Now button, verify your billing information, and click Buy Now. To assign the email-only account to an existing iTools or .Mac trial account, click the Email Account Management button. Enter the member name and password of the iTools or .Mac trial account you want to convert, then click Convert. Please note that once a trial account has been converted, all the account's data files (except for email messages) will be removed from Apple's servers. Other .Mac services, such as iDisk, HomePage, Backup, and Virex, are not accessible to email-only accounts. They have obviously updated their FAQ, becaue I am pretty sure I didn¹t see this all when I checked. Or maybe I did miss it because I only read the top portion and figured it didn¹t apply to my question. Either way, your answer is in there :) Walt -- Your legs must be tired, because you've been running through my mind all day long. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back... THIS IS GETTING OLD.
Whoops! Sorry -- I see the link right under my nose. Donation made. Don Don wrote: I don't have a problem using the delete key but, yeah... if people will stop whining about the new email service promotion, I'll ante up $10. What's the Paypal link, please? Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have thank you very much.. Anyone else want to ante up some $? In a message dated 7/26/02 4:54:22 PM, you wrote: That's fine, starting with you whining about the whiners :-p -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back... THIS IS GETTING OLD.
I don't have a problem using the delete key but, yeah... if people will stop whining about the new email service promotion, I'll ante up $10. What's the Paypal link, please? http://www.lemlists.com/donations.php or directly via paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ http://lemlists.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Kyle, There is nothing wrong with my ISP. I am still able to get on my wife¹s iDisk from the same machine, as she is still on her ³trial² account, and I can access her email as well. So I know the connection is there. I criticized them pretty harshly on the forums, and also sent some feedback to ³Billing Feedback² prior to this, asking why I was not getting what I paid for, and gave them an ultimatum. I expected an answer in ³24 of my hours, not their business hours² and if I didn¹t I would cancel my account. If the account couldn¹t be cancelled, I would post my username and password all over the net. There was also some pretty colorful words, which I graciously starred out for them so as to avoid word filters (the billing inquiry had this, not the forum posts). I can go to www.mac.com, and it recognizes me from the cookies as wbasil. When I hit the log in button, my username shows up, and prompts me for my password. When I enter my password, Then I get the page that tells me my membership has expired, and I can pay $99 to renew it. The other subscription I am referring to is my G-Book list under [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just wanted to letl whoever runs that here know, so that when the mail started bouncing...that is why. I won¹t get a lawyer...as I am in Kuwait right now, and the price of one would be far more than the .mac was worth. I wouldn¹t go back to it if Steve Jobs himself gave me an apology and offered to to me free for life. I would like to get in touch with someone from Apple to find out if I am going to be getting a refund. But you can no longer get in touch with anyone there that I can see. You go to support for .mac in the regular support area, and it refers you to support for dot mac. You need a membership to get support for dot mac. My membership is expired. Walt -- I saw a woman wearing a sweatshirt with 'Guess' on it. I said, 'Thyroid problem?' - Arnold Schwarzenegger -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On Friday, July 26, 2002, at 12:58 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: And then you say this: Should I worry at all about my other subscription? Or will it just eventually die out? You just told us that they canceled your account. Why would you be worried about it ending if it is already canceled? I don't get it. His wife's account. Hmm, the way I read it, I thought he meant his subscription to this list that was under his .mac address. Anyone else care to speculate on the possible interpretations? --Courtney Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go. --T.S. Eliot AIM: LoveTheVeinedOne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On 7/26/02 8:47 AM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't you already paid for it? Sorry to hear about the hernia... sit back and relax. Lemlists.com will soon whip .mac's a**. Yeah, I had already paid. In fact, the reason I paid was so that I could get support. I wanted to know if I would be able to convert my wife's existing iTools account under my .mac account. You know, pay the $10, and just convert hers over to one of my subordinate accounts. They would never answer. I posted that question back on July20. They never responded. I paid my $49, so that I could get an answer, and I never got it. When I started complaining about it in the forums...my account was canceled. -- Where there's smoke, you'll find my wife cooking dinner. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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I think that you are getting a little bit too hot over this... I think that if Steve Jobs himself offered me an apology, I would probably accept it... Todd I wouldn¹t go back to it if Steve Jobs himself gave me an apology and offered to to me free for life. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Walter, I can understand your frustration with trying to get a question answered from .mac tech support. But have you cut off your nose to spite your face? If you were that entrenched with your email address, was it worth losing something that was costing you $4.17/month for the first year, that included 15MB email space, plus the 100MB iDisk, as well as the other services currently existing and still to come, for a 10MB mail account for $3.99/month? Believe me, I am among those who assumed that iTools would be free forever, and I wish this change was not happening, but I'm willing to pay my 50 bucks for the first year, and see what other services Apple develops as services for the .mac users. Michelle --- Michelle K. Wachtel, Apple Product Professional, Inspiration to Information 804/794-6435, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.carbonus.com/23;www.carbonus.com/23/A or A HREF=http://www.4allnaturals.com/23;www.4allnaturals.com/23/A In a message dated 7/26/02 1:41:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks, it's been a rough couple days. After numerous complaints on the .mac forums, them deleting my posts, etc, I found that they had cancelled my membership. I went to log on yesterday morning, and it told me my membership had expired, and that I could renew it for $100. LOL Then my email quit working (username/password not found), iDisk would no longer mount. And of course there is no way to get in touch with someone over there to find out just what exactly happened. I was planning on canceling it anyway, since they could offer me no tech support as they promised they would. I would like to find out if they have initiated a refund on my behalf, since they no nicely canceled my account for me. You know, I would have gone right on using mac.com for life. They had me. That email address has been used for so long, by all my contacts: business, personal, professional, all my sites and lists I am subscribed to, and financial services. Everything. All they had to do was answer one stinkin' support question that I asked, and they never did. That1s what their loss boils down to. Them not answering one question. So I have re-subscribed to this list under my new email account with mail.com - $3.99/month for 10 Megs email space. They have been around for years, and will continue to do so I imagine. I used to use their free email service. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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This email was replied to off-list. What I wonder is why should I pay for other services still to come? It seems more reasonable to charge customers just for what they get. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ http://lemlists.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Where is a list-mom when you need him??? I personally am tired of hearing about LEMONlists... Excuse me Todd, but if you haven't tried it you cannot knock it. Period. If you have a problem with that please email Dan directly: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 Get your email address through lemlists.com for only $5/year. http://lemlists.com/email/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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What is worse than incessant advertising is incessant bickering. How about a ceasefire? - Original Message - From: Todd Ruch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: I'm back... I have... Thank you for the link. Hopefully he will do something about your incessant advertising. Todd -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Todd Ruch wrote: Where is a list-mom when you need him??? I personally am tired of hearing about LEMONlists... I *am* the list mom. I have received several complaints about Ryan over posting plugs for LEM LIsts.com addresses. I personaly think it is a good idea and a good service. I just know that I am tired of hearing about it, and that many others (like yourself) feel the same way. I keep getting complaints about the plugs and am forwarding them to Dan. -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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I have... Thank you for the link. Hopefully he will do something about your incessant advertising. Todd Where is a list-mom when you need him??? I personally am tired of hearing about LEMONlists... Excuse me Todd, but if you haven't tried it you cannot knock it. Period. If you have a problem with that please email Dan directly: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On 7/25/2002 11:58 PM Ryan Coleman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't. This is the alternative to .mac and was pushed to be started sooner because of it. 1. Ryan. Keep the plugs to a minimum. All the people here have heard the LEM lists plug about 20 times. It is no longer necessary. I for one am ready to unsubscribe if I hear about it again (and resubscribe in a couple of weeks perhaps). There is already enough advertising at the bottom of our posts, we don't need to have it within the posts. Consider that done. However, I must add, I never read signatures... (note signature has been altered). -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ http://lemlists.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Todd Ruch wrote: Where is a list-mom when you need him??? I personally am tired of hearing about LEMONlists... I *am* the list mom. I have received several complaints about Ryan over posting plugs for LEM LIsts.com addresses. I personaly think it is a good idea and a good service. I just know that I am tired of hearing about it, and that many others (like yourself) feel the same way. I keep getting complaints about the plugs and am forwarding them to Dan. I would like to say that I have not heard from Dan. Also, the last time I will bring this up unless directed towards me, this service is 100% dependent on subscribers. I can support it for maybe two months without enough subscriptions but without those subscriptions lemlists.com, and Coleman Web, will be closed down. This may not be of much issue soon, however, if I get this IT job that I am a finalist for with CargilDow. May we hope and pray. Capital is very hard to come by these days. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ http://lemlists.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Good Luck and Best Wishes with the job!!! Mike K Ryan Coleman wrote: This may not be of much issue soon, however, if I get this IT job that I am a finalist for with CargilDow. May we hope and pray. Capital is very hard to come by these days. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ http://lemlists.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back... THIS IS GETTING OLD.
I must add that I think this group consists of more geritol-equipped whiners than 1/2 of St Pete, FL. It amazes me that EVERYBODY has to take exception to everything, like this new .com email service. For cryin out loud, they're trying to support the LEM groups thru the sale of this. Can we not at least give them a break, rather than whine about something to the very folks who help make this listserve happen?? This is precisely why I do not offer ANYTHING to anyone for free. If you offer it for free, the majority of folks are such morons that they cannot see the validity of it, and will eventually blacklist you for something you offered out of the goodness of your heart.Personally, I think each whiner should be removed from this list untill he/she donates $10 to Dan for the development upbringing of this group. Thanks, David -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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That's fine, starting with you whining about the whiners :-p I must add that I think this group consists of more geritol-equipped whiners than 1/2 of St Pete, FL. It amazes me that EVERYBODY has to take exception to everything, like this new .com email service. For cryin out loud, they're trying to support the LEM groups thru the sale of this. Can we not at least give them a break, rather than whine about something to the very folks who help make this listserve happen?? This is precisely why I do not offer ANYTHING to anyone for free. If you offer it for free, the majority of folks are such morons that they cannot see the validity of it, and will eventually blacklist you for something you offered out of the goodness of your heart.Personally, I think each whiner should be removed from this list untill he/she donates $10 to Dan for the development upbringing of this group. Thanks, David -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Courtney Simpson wrote: Why would you be worried about it ending if it is already canceled? I don't get it. His wife's account. Hmm, the way I read it, I thought he meant his subscription to this list that was under his .mac address. Anyone else care to speculate on the possible interpretations? Her is the exact quote. He is alleging that Apple Killed his account and even states that he is wondering about a refund. Not his wife's account or his LEM subscription: Folks, it's been a rough couple days. After numerous complaints on the .mac forums, them deleting my posts, etc, I found that they had canceled my membership. I went to log on yesterday morning, and it told me my membership had expired, and that I could renew it for $100. LOL Then my email quit working (username/password not found), iDisk would no longer mount. And of course there is no way to get in touch with someone over there to find out just what exactly happened. I was planning on canceling it anyway, since they could offer me no tech support as they promised they would. I would like to find out if they have initiated a refund on my behalf, since they no nicely canceled my account for me. You know, I would have gone right on using mac.com for life. They had me. That email address has been used for so long, by all my contacts: business, personal, professional, all my sites and lists I am subscribed to -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back...
On 7/25/2002 11:58 PM Ryan Coleman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't. This is the alternative to .mac and was pushed to be started sooner because of it. 1. Ryan. Keep the plugs to a minimum. All the people here have heard the LEM lists plug about 20 times. It is no longer necessary. I for one am ready to unsubscribe if I hear about it again (and resubscribe in a couple of weeks perhaps). There is already enough advertising at the bottom of our posts, we don't need to have it within the posts. Turtle-Bear -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back... THIS IS GETTING OLD.
I have thank you very much.. Anyone else want to ante up some $? In a message dated 7/26/02 4:54:22 PM, you wrote: That's fine, starting with you whining about the whiners :-p -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back...
In a message dated 7/26/02 1:51:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I had already paid. In fact, the reason I paid was so that I could get support. I wanted to know if I would be able to convert my wife's existing iTools account under my .mac account. You know, pay the $10, and just convert hers over to one of my subordinate accounts. They would never answer. I posted that question back on July20. They never responded. I paid my $49, so that I could get an answer, and I never got it. When I started complaining about it in the forums...my account was canceled. The answer to that question was YES. The instructions for that are on the website. Michelle --- Michelle K. Wachtel, Apple Product Professional, Inspiration to Information 804/794-6435, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.carbonus.com/23;www.carbonus.com/23/A or A HREF=http://www.4allnaturals.com/23;www.4allnaturals.com/23/A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Pismo rubber feet, WAS I'm back...
What is worse than incessant advertising is incessant bickering. How about a ceasefire? I second that motion. In other news; I went to my local hardware store and picked up a box of 3/8 inch self-adhesive rubber feet for my pismo (I had one left, out of four). They're clear plastic and almost perfect little hemispheres. Even with the old rubber feet, I used to be able to push my laptop across tables with little effort. Now it seems I might as well have just glued my laptop onto my desk. =- Tim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back... THIS IS GETTING OLD.
This is precisely why I do not offer ANYTHING to anyone for free. If you offer it for free, the majority of folks are such morons that they cannot see the validity of it, and will eventually blacklist you for something you offered out of the goodness of your heart.Personally, I think each whiner should be removed from this list untill he/she donates $10 to Dan for the development upbringing of this group. Thank you David. I almost said I was going to add his email to my block list on the mailserver but thought secondly about that. If I did do that Dan would find out very soon and I would have to remove it. As it stands I do have someone blocked on my server right now, who I cannot remember but it was someone else that had issue with me being blunt. -- Ryan Coleman Coleman Web / Internet Services http://coleman-web.net/ http://lemlists.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (612) 378-7901 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back...
on 7/26/02 7:51 AM, Walter R Basil at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, the reason I paid was so that I could get support. I wanted to know if I would be able to convert my wife's existing iTools account under my .mac account. You know, pay the $10, and just convert hers over to one of my subordinate accounts. But your question still hasn't been answered... I have the exact same question. Can I convert my wife's account under mine, or mine under hers? How does one combine multiple accounts? This is what I need to do, and if I can't, I won't pay a cent. I'm sorry you had to pay and not get the question answered... -- Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! - I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back!
And, for the record, the type of line we use is not of the concern of the lists, just that it is fast enough to maintain the speeds and always up. Infrastructure when it comes to lists =always= matters. There are reasons why ISP's go with T1's over DSL or cable, why they have redundancy, etc... Heh, been there. Be careful. Michael Bryan Bell -- ICQ: 16106263Yahoo: mhbell1 No Link for you! AIM: drunkenbatman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back!
And, for the record, the type of line we use is not of the concern of the lists, just that it is fast enough to maintain the speeds and always up. Infrastructure when it comes to lists =always= matters. There are reasons why ISP's go with T1's over DSL or cable, why they have redundancy, etc... Heh, been there. Be careful. I do understand that, however I do not have the capital to get a Tier line right now and if I did, you know I would. Do you know anyone looking to invest $20,000+ into a startup? :-) -- Ryan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I'm back!
Generally to run an ISP from a residence you're going to need to install a generator for backup power, redundant connections, etc... It does get expensive. True, but we are not your normal ISP. We do have UPS in redundancy, and we have a connect 10 minutes away that we can run to in case of an emergency (a big ISP in the Twin Cities). Do you know anyone looking to invest $20,000+ into a startup? :-) The smartest thing you could probably do would be to either co-locate your server ($100-$200 /month) or lease a dedicated server that is colocated ($99-$150 /month). Yes, but we don't have those funds. That's the problem. Just saying- running a small server out of your home is no big deal, pretty cool actually. But when you're taking people's money and offering a service you have to be really careful. I had a client last week who's email was in limbo for a week because she got a good deal through a guy who ran his web servers off of DSL, which is much more stable than cable. :/ I understand, but in the Twin Cities we have all our telecom lines in the air. Due to ice and other weather issues native to the region. So cable is the choice for the speed. DSL of that speed for a business is $300/month. grr. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com