Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-30 Thread Dave B
I remembered making the same changes to virtual machine RAM, and I  
was reading through the VPC help files and found that allocating more  
RAM may actually slow the virtual machine and possibly make it  
unusable.  The same applies to VRAM.  It's their product, and I'm not  
attempting to use VPC for anything strenuous, so I'm back to default  
settings and running acceptably.  Sometimes less is more?


And my internet speed tests were way off.  Reported downloads (VPC  
running Win2K and using Firefox) were around 430 KB/s and uploads  
around 150 KB/s when actual speeds were 150 down and 60 up.  The same  
tests using Safari were around 300 down and 70 up.  I used Activity  
monitor and X Resource Graph to monitor the actual speeds.


HTH
Dave

On 29-Dec-05, at 21:51, Harry Corsover wrote:


On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:15 PM, Tim Collier wrote:

Actually if you read the documentation, it recommends that you run  
VPC with 256 allocated.  They say it runs best that way.  Forget  
where I read it so don't ask me to site a resource. :)


I did have it set that way for years, but when I bumped up total  
physical RAM to 1 GB, I figured I'd try doubling it to see if it  
sped things up. It didn't, as far as I could tell.


Regards,

Harry Corsover




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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-30 Thread Lists


On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Dave B wrote:

I remembered making the same changes to virtual machine RAM, and I  
was reading through the VPC help files and found that allocating  
more RAM may actually slow the virtual machine and possibly make it  
unusable.  The same applies to VRAM.  It's their product, and I'm  
not attempting to use VPC for anything strenuous, so I'm back to  
default settings and running acceptably.  Sometimes less is more?


It's interesting that VirtualPC will not even LET you assign more  
than 512 MB to it, even if you have 2GB or more of RAM attached.


It has long been my belief that Microsoft wants a *crippled*  
VirtualPC to exist and hasn't killed it off because it's a nice piece  
of change for them but will never let it be anything more than  
crippled because otherwise it would be a threat.


TjL


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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-30 Thread Caleb Cupples
I'll place a hefty bet that Microsoft will kill off VPC when OSX Intel 
hits the markets..


Just IMHO,
Caleb
On Friday, Dec 30, 2005, at 21:53 America/Chicago, Lists wrote:



On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Dave B wrote:

I remembered making the same changes to virtual machine RAM, and I 
was reading through the VPC help files and found that allocating more 
RAM may actually slow the virtual machine and possibly make it 
unusable.  The same applies to VRAM.  It's their product, and I'm not 
attempting to use VPC for anything strenuous, so I'm back to default 
settings and running acceptably.  Sometimes less is more?


It's interesting that VirtualPC will not even LET you assign more than 
512 MB to it, even if you have 2GB or more of RAM attached.


It has long been my belief that Microsoft wants a *crippled* VirtualPC 
to exist and hasn't killed it off because it's a nice piece of change 
for them but will never let it be anything more than crippled because 
otherwise it would be a threat.


TjL



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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-29 Thread themacuser
What web browser are you using on Windows? Maybe Windows is just  
screwing things up (as usual).


Or the speed test is rigged because the file is cached...
On 29/12/2005, at 6:26 PM, Jared Noska wrote:


Hello Listers,

	Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the  
first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the  
program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed  
Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates  
and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly.


	There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great  
however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did  
it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at  
least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my  
regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128.  
Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does  
anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test?


Kind Regards,
Jared Noska




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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-29 Thread Harry Corsover
What version of VPC are you running? I'm running 6.1.1 on an AlBook  
15 1.25 GHz, 1GB RAM, with (if I recall) 512 MB of RAM assigned to  
VPC, running XP Pro SP2 with all the latest updates/patches. I find  
it the slowest computing experience I have ever had. Things take  
incredibly long, and sometimes so long that I'm not even sure the  
mouse click registered.


I tried the site you mentioned (using their Dallas TX location) and  
got 5772/973. I find this quite hard to believe, since it is almost  
twice the rated speed I get from my Earthlink DSL service. I then  
tried www.dslreports.com/stest and got 1579/315 from LinkLine in  
L.A., and 1796/333 from Speakeasy in Seattle. The latter two are  
believable.


Switching back to Safari (which takes several minutes, since VPC  
seems to take forever to let go) I ran tests at the same sites:


Speakeasy Dallas: 2122/307; Speakeasy Seattle: 2122/308; via  
DSLReports.com: Speakeasy Seattle 2062/312; LinkLine, L.A.: 2191/272.


My take on this is that the Speakeasy test in Windows must be  
inaccurate, since even if Windows/IE has an advantage, I don't see  
how it's possible to get almost twice the nominal speed my DSL  
service offers.


Regards,

Harry Corsover
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On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Jared Noska wrote:

	Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the  
first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the  
program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed  
Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates  
and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly.


	There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great  
however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did  
it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at  
least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my  
regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128.  
Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does  
anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test?




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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-29 Thread Jared Noska

I believe you are correct on this. Something weird with Windows.
I am running VPC 7 w/ Win XP Pro - SP 1.

My VPC is quite slow... running at only 295 MHz -- My  
ComputerCtrlProperties
But getting out of it is not a problem. I also assigned 512 to my VPC  
- leaving 256 to X.


I suspect something inaccurate.. especially since this happened to  
both of us.


Thanks for your insights!
On Dec 29, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Harry Corsover wrote:

What version of VPC are you running? I'm running 6.1.1 on an AlBook  
15 1.25 GHz, 1GB RAM, with (if I recall) 512 MB of RAM assigned to  
VPC, running XP Pro SP2 with all the latest updates/patches. I find  
it the slowest computing experience I have ever had. Things take  
incredibly long, and sometimes so long that I'm not even sure the  
mouse click registered.


I tried the site you mentioned (using their Dallas TX location) and  
got 5772/973. I find this quite hard to believe, since it is almost  
twice the rated speed I get from my Earthlink DSL service. I then  
tried www.dslreports.com/stest and got 1579/315 from LinkLine in  
L.A., and 1796/333 from Speakeasy in Seattle. The latter two are  
believable.


Switching back to Safari (which takes several minutes, since VPC  
seems to take forever to let go) I ran tests at the same sites:


Speakeasy Dallas: 2122/307; Speakeasy Seattle: 2122/308; via  
DSLReports.com: Speakeasy Seattle 2062/312; LinkLine, L.A.: 2191/272.


My take on this is that the Speakeasy test in Windows must be  
inaccurate, since even if Windows/IE has an advantage, I don't see  
how it's possible to get almost twice the nominal speed my DSL  
service offers.


Regards,

Harry Corsover
---
On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Jared Noska wrote:

	Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the  
first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the  
program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed  
Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates  
and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly.


	There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great  
however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did  
it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at  
least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my  
regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is  
512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or  
does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test?




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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-29 Thread Tim Collier
Actually if you read the documentation, it recommends that you run  
VPC with 256 allocated.  They say it runs best that way.  Forget  
where I read it so don't ask me to site a resource. :)


Tim
On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Jared Noska wrote:


I believe you are correct on this. Something weird with Windows.
I am running VPC 7 w/ Win XP Pro - SP 1.

My VPC is quite slow... running at only 295 MHz -- My  
ComputerCtrlProperties
But getting out of it is not a problem. I also assigned 512 to my  
VPC - leaving 256 to X.


I suspect something inaccurate.. especially since this happened to  
both of us.


Thanks for your insights!
On Dec 29, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Harry Corsover wrote:

What version of VPC are you running? I'm running 6.1.1 on an  
AlBook 15 1.25 GHz, 1GB RAM, with (if I recall) 512 MB of RAM  
assigned to VPC, running XP Pro SP2 with all the latest updates/ 
patches. I find it the slowest computing experience I have ever  
had. Things take incredibly long, and sometimes so long that I'm  
not even sure the mouse click registered.


I tried the site you mentioned (using their Dallas TX location)  
and got 5772/973. I find this quite hard to believe, since it is  
almost twice the rated speed I get from my Earthlink DSL service.  
I then tried www.dslreports.com/stest and got 1579/315 from  
LinkLine in L.A., and 1796/333 from Speakeasy in Seattle. The  
latter two are believable.


Switching back to Safari (which takes several minutes, since VPC  
seems to take forever to let go) I ran tests at the same sites:


Speakeasy Dallas: 2122/307; Speakeasy Seattle: 2122/308; via  
DSLReports.com: Speakeasy Seattle 2062/312; LinkLine, L.A.: 2191/272.


My take on this is that the Speakeasy test in Windows must be  
inaccurate, since even if Windows/IE has an advantage, I don't see  
how it's possible to get almost twice the nominal speed my DSL  
service offers.


Regards,

Harry Corsover
---
On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Jared Noska wrote:

	Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for  
the first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really  
like the program and look forward to using and working with it. I  
installed Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do  
some updates and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly.


	There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works  
great however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When  
I did it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked  
it at least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed,  
my regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is  
512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or  
does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test?




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Re: Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-29 Thread Harry Corsover

On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:15 PM, Tim Collier wrote:

Actually if you read the documentation, it recommends that you run  
VPC with 256 allocated.  They say it runs best that way.  Forget  
where I read it so don't ask me to site a resource. :)


I did have it set that way for years, but when I bumped up total  
physical RAM to 1 GB, I figured I'd try doubling it to see if it sped  
things up. It didn't, as far as I could tell.


Regards,

Harry Corsover


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Internet on Virtual PC

2005-12-28 Thread Jared Noska

Hello Listers,

	Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the  
first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the  
program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed  
Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates and  
stuff but overall, it is running smoothly.


	There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great  
however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did it  
on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at least  
a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my regular being  
512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128. Anyone do the  
www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does anyone use Virtual PC  
that could run a similar test?


Kind Regards,
Jared Noska



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