Re: Internet on Virtual PC
I remembered making the same changes to virtual machine RAM, and I was reading through the VPC help files and found that allocating more RAM may actually slow the virtual machine and possibly make it unusable. The same applies to VRAM. It's their product, and I'm not attempting to use VPC for anything strenuous, so I'm back to default settings and running acceptably. Sometimes less is more? And my internet speed tests were way off. Reported downloads (VPC running Win2K and using Firefox) were around 430 KB/s and uploads around 150 KB/s when actual speeds were 150 down and 60 up. The same tests using Safari were around 300 down and 70 up. I used Activity monitor and X Resource Graph to monitor the actual speeds. HTH Dave On 29-Dec-05, at 21:51, Harry Corsover wrote: On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:15 PM, Tim Collier wrote: Actually if you read the documentation, it recommends that you run VPC with 256 allocated. They say it runs best that way. Forget where I read it so don't ask me to site a resource. :) I did have it set that way for years, but when I bumped up total physical RAM to 1 GB, I figured I'd try doubling it to see if it sped things up. It didn't, as far as I could tell. Regards, Harry Corsover -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Dave B wrote: I remembered making the same changes to virtual machine RAM, and I was reading through the VPC help files and found that allocating more RAM may actually slow the virtual machine and possibly make it unusable. The same applies to VRAM. It's their product, and I'm not attempting to use VPC for anything strenuous, so I'm back to default settings and running acceptably. Sometimes less is more? It's interesting that VirtualPC will not even LET you assign more than 512 MB to it, even if you have 2GB or more of RAM attached. It has long been my belief that Microsoft wants a *crippled* VirtualPC to exist and hasn't killed it off because it's a nice piece of change for them but will never let it be anything more than crippled because otherwise it would be a threat. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
I'll place a hefty bet that Microsoft will kill off VPC when OSX Intel hits the markets.. Just IMHO, Caleb On Friday, Dec 30, 2005, at 21:53 America/Chicago, Lists wrote: On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Dave B wrote: I remembered making the same changes to virtual machine RAM, and I was reading through the VPC help files and found that allocating more RAM may actually slow the virtual machine and possibly make it unusable. The same applies to VRAM. It's their product, and I'm not attempting to use VPC for anything strenuous, so I'm back to default settings and running acceptably. Sometimes less is more? It's interesting that VirtualPC will not even LET you assign more than 512 MB to it, even if you have 2GB or more of RAM attached. It has long been my belief that Microsoft wants a *crippled* VirtualPC to exist and hasn't killed it off because it's a nice piece of change for them but will never let it be anything more than crippled because otherwise it would be a threat. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
What web browser are you using on Windows? Maybe Windows is just screwing things up (as usual). Or the speed test is rigged because the file is cached... On 29/12/2005, at 6:26 PM, Jared Noska wrote: Hello Listers, Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly. There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test? Kind Regards, Jared Noska -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
What version of VPC are you running? I'm running 6.1.1 on an AlBook 15 1.25 GHz, 1GB RAM, with (if I recall) 512 MB of RAM assigned to VPC, running XP Pro SP2 with all the latest updates/patches. I find it the slowest computing experience I have ever had. Things take incredibly long, and sometimes so long that I'm not even sure the mouse click registered. I tried the site you mentioned (using their Dallas TX location) and got 5772/973. I find this quite hard to believe, since it is almost twice the rated speed I get from my Earthlink DSL service. I then tried www.dslreports.com/stest and got 1579/315 from LinkLine in L.A., and 1796/333 from Speakeasy in Seattle. The latter two are believable. Switching back to Safari (which takes several minutes, since VPC seems to take forever to let go) I ran tests at the same sites: Speakeasy Dallas: 2122/307; Speakeasy Seattle: 2122/308; via DSLReports.com: Speakeasy Seattle 2062/312; LinkLine, L.A.: 2191/272. My take on this is that the Speakeasy test in Windows must be inaccurate, since even if Windows/IE has an advantage, I don't see how it's possible to get almost twice the nominal speed my DSL service offers. Regards, Harry Corsover --- On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Jared Noska wrote: Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly. There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test? = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
I believe you are correct on this. Something weird with Windows. I am running VPC 7 w/ Win XP Pro - SP 1. My VPC is quite slow... running at only 295 MHz -- My ComputerCtrlProperties But getting out of it is not a problem. I also assigned 512 to my VPC - leaving 256 to X. I suspect something inaccurate.. especially since this happened to both of us. Thanks for your insights! On Dec 29, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: What version of VPC are you running? I'm running 6.1.1 on an AlBook 15 1.25 GHz, 1GB RAM, with (if I recall) 512 MB of RAM assigned to VPC, running XP Pro SP2 with all the latest updates/patches. I find it the slowest computing experience I have ever had. Things take incredibly long, and sometimes so long that I'm not even sure the mouse click registered. I tried the site you mentioned (using their Dallas TX location) and got 5772/973. I find this quite hard to believe, since it is almost twice the rated speed I get from my Earthlink DSL service. I then tried www.dslreports.com/stest and got 1579/315 from LinkLine in L.A., and 1796/333 from Speakeasy in Seattle. The latter two are believable. Switching back to Safari (which takes several minutes, since VPC seems to take forever to let go) I ran tests at the same sites: Speakeasy Dallas: 2122/307; Speakeasy Seattle: 2122/308; via DSLReports.com: Speakeasy Seattle 2062/312; LinkLine, L.A.: 2191/272. My take on this is that the Speakeasy test in Windows must be inaccurate, since even if Windows/IE has an advantage, I don't see how it's possible to get almost twice the nominal speed my DSL service offers. Regards, Harry Corsover --- On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Jared Noska wrote: Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly. There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test? = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
Actually if you read the documentation, it recommends that you run VPC with 256 allocated. They say it runs best that way. Forget where I read it so don't ask me to site a resource. :) Tim On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Jared Noska wrote: I believe you are correct on this. Something weird with Windows. I am running VPC 7 w/ Win XP Pro - SP 1. My VPC is quite slow... running at only 295 MHz -- My ComputerCtrlProperties But getting out of it is not a problem. I also assigned 512 to my VPC - leaving 256 to X. I suspect something inaccurate.. especially since this happened to both of us. Thanks for your insights! On Dec 29, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: What version of VPC are you running? I'm running 6.1.1 on an AlBook 15 1.25 GHz, 1GB RAM, with (if I recall) 512 MB of RAM assigned to VPC, running XP Pro SP2 with all the latest updates/ patches. I find it the slowest computing experience I have ever had. Things take incredibly long, and sometimes so long that I'm not even sure the mouse click registered. I tried the site you mentioned (using their Dallas TX location) and got 5772/973. I find this quite hard to believe, since it is almost twice the rated speed I get from my Earthlink DSL service. I then tried www.dslreports.com/stest and got 1579/315 from LinkLine in L.A., and 1796/333 from Speakeasy in Seattle. The latter two are believable. Switching back to Safari (which takes several minutes, since VPC seems to take forever to let go) I ran tests at the same sites: Speakeasy Dallas: 2122/307; Speakeasy Seattle: 2122/308; via DSLReports.com: Speakeasy Seattle 2062/312; LinkLine, L.A.: 2191/272. My take on this is that the Speakeasy test in Windows must be inaccurate, since even if Windows/IE has an advantage, I don't see how it's possible to get almost twice the nominal speed my DSL service offers. Regards, Harry Corsover --- On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Jared Noska wrote: Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly. There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test? = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Exterminate all rational though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac
Re: Internet on Virtual PC
On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:15 PM, Tim Collier wrote: Actually if you read the documentation, it recommends that you run VPC with 256 allocated. They say it runs best that way. Forget where I read it so don't ask me to site a resource. :) I did have it set that way for years, but when I bumped up total physical RAM to 1 GB, I figured I'd try doubling it to see if it sped things up. It didn't, as far as I could tell. Regards, Harry Corsover = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Internet on Virtual PC
Hello Listers, Yesterday I had the chance to put Virtual PC on my system for the first time [which is a new iBook 1.33]. Overall, I really like the program and look forward to using and working with it. I installed Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 on it. I've had to do some updates and stuff but overall, it is running smoothly. There is only one odd thing: my internet. My internet works great however I regularly do speed tests with speakeasy.net. When I did it on VPC I think my internet tripled speed. I have checked it at least a dozen times since last night. Same 1500/256 speed, my regular being 512/128. And when I get back in to Mac it is 512/128. Anyone do the www.speakeasy.net/speedtest regularly or does anyone use Virtual PC that could run a similar test? Kind Regards, Jared Noska -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---